@Riot, You Want to Talk About Evil? Let's Talk About Evil.

A Superb Villain··134 votes·8,854 views

http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/splash/Veigar_0.jpg #The Tiny Master of Evil

We know that our beloved hammer-toting diplomat is slated for a complete relaunch, an update on par with the impressive reintroduction of Sion, but she is far from the last yordle in need of an upgrade to contemporary standards such as Teemo Kennen. Though I would love to see every yordle updated, I am here to stir conversation about one in particular.

Veigar is the traditional fantasy mage; he has a pointy hat, black magic, and wields a magic staff. He commands unfathomable powers, literally warping the very fabric of reality to annihilate his victims. Perhaps most importantly, Veigar is a yordle, but not just any yordle, The Tiny Master of Evil is a twisted mockery of Bandle City's happy population, and that is what truly sets him apart. Veigar is the end result of prolonged isolation, all-encompassing megalomania born of anguish and despair, leaving him a bitter, sadistic exile.

That is Veigar in the simplest terms, and I would like to explore him in depth through each facet of his character: Design, Abilities, and Story.

Design Veigar's appearance as a stereotypical fantasy mage is, I believe, extremely relevant to his position in the League of Legends. No other AP champion, or champion in general, displays the classic look of a spell-slinging wizard, though Lulu does come close. Now he may be the amalgamation of various designs from many fictional properties, but it makes him all the more iconic for it, and he has just enough twists to make the image all his own. For example: http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070926003226/finalfantasy/images/4/4e/TA2-HumeBlackMage.jpg http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100818231822/finalfantasy/images/2/2d/Vivi_Ornitier_character.jpg http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda/images/9/9c/Wizzrobe_(A_Link_to_the_Past).png/revision/latest?cb=20090726002622 http://www.cbswords.com/images/gandalf-grey-staff-big.jpg

What separates Veigar from his predecessors is the oversized gauntlet. It may not be much, but I feel it establishes his character quite nicely; it is bold, dramatic, and just large enough to be considered silly. Still, it creates a unique silhouette for him and serves as a subtle reference to his desire for complete dominion over the world. The gauntlet is a symbol of control and power, which naturally Veigar emphasizes by making his own a few sizes too big.

Veigar's appearance is not meant to be seriously threatening, it shows the world how he wants to be seen.

Abilities Veigar is all about power, raw, unmitigated magic. Every spell, with the exception of Baleful Strike, rips apart the universe and recreates it to his specified desires, such as tearing a chunk of Dark Matter from space, twisting the world to form an Event Horizon, or simply pooling his magic into an unstable Burst of Primordial destruction.

Veigar is old, and it is made glaringly apparent in his spell effects. Baleful Strike is a purple blob, Event Horizon is a ring of pixelated spikes, and Primordial Burst is a bunch of circles with some fairy dust sprinkled about. The only ability I feel does not need any serious work done is Dark Matter; it lands with a loud and satisfying boom, leaving cracks in the ground from the force of its impact. It feels good to use because people GTFO when they see it coming, and it feels even better when it hits a target.

Baleful Strike is his only true spell that suggests it is born of purely black magic, not cosmic power. It is the literal manifestation of his malice and cruelty, Veigar's hatred given form, and he uses it to inflict harm. Not only that, but those that die under its touch provide Veigar with a permanent boost in power. Honestly, it sounds like magic straight out of the Shadow Isles, and I feel it should reflect that.

Event Horizon is sad. Veigar raises his staff and... five ugly pillars just appear. No bursting from the ground or tearing apart the atmosphere, just a circle of magic and "poof", a ring of doom. Worst of all, it fails to reflect the cosmic nature of its name and effect. This is a rough guess of what an actual Event Horizon looks like: http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2014/08/10/1227019/401718-29a72c62-2013-11e4-bee2-80d82dcd29df.jpg

It's the ring of light surrounding the incomprehensible pit of inky nothingness being crushed into the smallest possible space known to man. This is a phenomenon so unimaginably powerful we can only hope to perceive the effect it has on the immediate vicinity. Event Horizon needs some serious oomph to let new or unfamiliar players know this is some serious shit you do not want to get caught up in.

Primordial Burst is without a doubt the the most satisfying ability in Veigar's kit; he is throwing the foundations of reality condensed into a single spell that explodes in an enemy's face with all the fury of creation itself. Veigar is literally recreating the formation of the universe and weaponizing it. http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a010100/a010128/Arrow_JPG.jpg

Right now Veigar's ult has a tendency of being lost in the chaos of a teamfight, though the recent changes have mitigated that issue. Still, many people only realize they have been hit after their screen turns grey and Death recap informs them that Veigar just murdered them twice over.

Story Last, but certainly not least, is Veigar's story. In fact, I would go so far as to say this is the most important aspect of Veigar as a champion in League of Legends.

Once nothing more than an aspiring merchant with dreams of seeing the world, Veigar was incarcerated by Noxian authorities when a deal went bad. It cannot be said whether Veigar was innocent or guilty of the offending crimes, but we do know that he spent quite a bit of time in prison. For an unknown number of years he was isolated from any meaningful contact. Perhaps it was intentional, a study to determine how exactly isolation impacted yordles. Regardless, it drove Veigar mad.

Veigar is insane, paranoid, and cruel, he is the result of a yordle denied all connection to the typical camaraderie and affection inherent to yordle society. What may be most disturbing of all is that in spite of his madness, Veigar retains a level of cunning that enabled him to expand his power. When he escaped from Noxus, instead of returning home, he ventured across Valoran, learning magic from dark wizards, becoming incredibly proficient with magic. In fact, his power reached such heights he was a candidate for induction into the Black Rose.

This leads to the delicate issue of balancing Veigar between silly, sad, and sadism.

The Tiny Master of Evil, as his title implies, is dramatic. He is someone who desperately wishes to be feared and reviled, and works so hard to enforce that image, that it wraps around to outlandish. A four foot tall hamster demanding the world submit or die should prompt the rolling of a few eyes. We laugh at his antics as Veigar strives to make his name one to be truly feared, and it is perfectly alright that we do. However, it is when Veigar's diabolical schemes actually yield some success that we be reminded he is a mage of the most destructive kind.

Veigar is a villain no one takes seriously until it is entirely too late. People are deceived by his less than intimidating height and shrill voice, forgetting that Veigar will happily point a finger into a crowd and transform people into meaty confetti. He is evil, and thoroughly enjoys being so. When he kills someone with his ult, he laughs. Someone is disintegrated into their most basic particles and Veigar revels in their demise.

I like Veigar, a lot, and eagerly look forward to what Riot may have in store for League's most vile mage. What are your thoughts on the Tiny Master of Evil? What do you want from Riot when his inevitable update is made a reality?

What about you, Rioters? Have you embraced the darkness in your souls?

http://33.media.tumblr.com/34bce00c288245dbf2b621659869642a/tumblr_inline_n9jz0rDZEL1rkiwlw.png

Further readings: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/EirhcI9w-embracing-the-darkness-in-our-souls http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4588014

82 Comments

The Anagram King13 votes

I would love it if Veigar had a unique quote mechanic, in which he has sayings and sentences of both a common and rare variety that give the player occasional insight into his personality and background. A list of standard quotes similar to the ones he has now; topped out with several unique pieces of dialogue that would have, oh, say - something like a 1/100th chance, each, of being uttered.

Imagine it: Veigar, bobbing along and instilling comedic terror in his foes. Causing mischief, blowing enemies apart and then suddenly, while moving innocently, to dragon, he blurts out:

"The cold damp of a four cornered cell. The insufferable pain in the back of my neck that just... won't.... they took EVERYTHING. I'll take everything!"

Player: ...Wait, what'd he say? That's new.

Trídent12 votes

Take my upvote :)

A Superb Villain33 votes

http://i.imgur.com/cD2LX67.gif #With this upvote, we shall create a monument to NONEXISTENCE!

Blue Moon Wolf6 votes

I hope that monument can Measure up... It would be a shame if it Fell short ;3

A Superb Villain4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Blue Moon Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=o5gIkAlQ,comment-id=000800000001,timestamp=2015-07-11T00:56:54.248+0000) Measure up

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[{quoted}](name=Blue Moon Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=o5gIkAlQ,comment-id=000800000001,timestamp=2015-07-11T00:56:54.248+0000) Fell short ;3

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Flay and Pray8 votes

I wholeheartedly agree, I mean look at his E effects on the base skin. It literally looks like it was made in MS paint. Veigar should FEEL powerful, and his quotes don't get me started on them. There is so much potential with this champion riot so please, take your time with this VU. I know you guys will make this amazing.

A Superb Villain8 votes

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It literally looks like it was made in MS paint.

A fair assessment.

http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Veigar-E-2.jpg

Veteran players all understand what that circle means (typically death) so the danger is instinctually known, but the spell is just so... dull.

Flay and Pray8 votes

A fair assessment.

http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Veigar-E-2.jpg

Veteran players all understand what that circle means (typically death) so the danger is instinctually known, but the spell is just so... dull.

I personally, while attached to them wouldn't mind them completely reworking the E and R completely. They not only make Veigar a nightmare to balance, but they have so much more potential.

A Superb Villain8 votes

Admittedly, I could stand to see both changed. Event Horizon is too binary for my tastes; either you stun your target, they get away, or dance around your Dark Matter inside the ring.

Primordial Burst, while very iconic for League, as it is the anti-mage ability, punishes other players for building what they want to build as AP carries. If they shifted the enemy AP scaling to Veigar's own I would be happy. It is still the "delete this fool" button, but other players no longer need to feel bad that they can't do their job as an AP carry.

GreenLore7 votes

The problem I see with removing the enemy ap-ratio is that it deletes the uniqueness of the spell.

I mean if they did that,then it would be a simple "point-and-click-for-damage"-spell,the ap-ratio of the enemy is the only thing about the ability,that makes it stand out more.

SpecterVonBaren3 votes

It's also one of Veigar's safety nets. The fact that it scales off the AP of his enemy lets him have a way to still do damage even if he's behind, because as powerful as his E is, it is also the only source of utility in his kit, everything else is just damage.

A Superb Villain1 votes

I can concede that scaling with an enemies AP does benefit a Veigar that is behind, but is it too reliant on factors outside a player's control? If the enemy builds defensively, a la Cho'Gath, Veigar is still fairly useless, and if his opponent is AD, he is even worse off.

I am not demanding this particular portion of his ultimate be changed, but I do wonder if it is too particular to have Veigar's design be shackled by it.

Embertine5 votes

I personally have no problem with Veigar using his enemy's AP against them. When I first used Veigar I was having a blast one hitting an all AP Ezreal and constantly deleting him from the battle. But in that same match I also tried to delete a Warwick with the ult and only ended up taking out half his HP before he proceeded to do unspeakable things to me. Suffice to say I ended up respawning a minute later.

The problem isn't that he kills out other AP champions with his ult. The problem is that everyone only ever sees him as just a nuker and not a tactical champion.

I myself use him tactically. I always wait to use my E at the right time and place, and my W only when I know it will hit. Even Veigar's Q is good for more than minion killing and AP scaling. I've actually killed people by only using E W Q, in that order, without even bothering to use my ult. His ult really isn't a problem if it doesn't even need to be used.

Kogentt3 votes

I don't actually see an issue with that. My viewing of Veigar's ultimate isn't that it's a "point-and-click-for-damage"-spell, but that it's THE "point-and-click-for-DAMAGE"-spell. Remove the enemy AP ratio on it, and if you ask me it actually fills a unique niche in that it does simple, point and click, massive amounts of damage. Syndra's scales off of orbs, Annie's summons a bear, Malzahar's suppresses the enemy and himself. Veigar's just hits like a truck filled with other trucks.

A Superb Villain3 votes

{quoted} Veigar's just hits like a truck filled with other trucks.

I like that analogy. I like it a lot.

aaronconlin4 votes

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Admittedly, I could stand to see both changed. Event Horizon is too binary for my tastes; either you stun your target, they get away, or dance around your Dark Matter inside the ring.

Primordial Burst, while very iconic for League, as it is the anti-mage ability, punishes other players for building what they want to build as AP carries. If they shifted the enemy AP scaling to Veigar's own I would be happy. It is still the "delete this fool" button, but other players no longer need to feel bad that they can't do their job as an AP carry.

500 + 1.8 AP scaling. Goodbye everyone

ChromeFluxx3 votes

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A fair assessment.

http://www.newsoflegends.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Veigar-E-2.jpg

Veteran players all understand what that circle means (typically death) so the danger is instinctually known, but the spell is just so... dull.

You know, this IS a good time to bring this up. considering the VFX team is doing a pass on old champion abilities.

Valthan7 votes

I think a point is to be made about the last picture in your post. Riot has recently taken the stance to get some sense of consistency across all the yordles. Essentially, males are furry, females are (for lack of a better term) smurfs.

With most of the other yordles, this hasn't been much of a problem. Heimerdinger made the transition surprisingly well and while Corki hasn't yet done so, I believe he'll be fine too. Veigar, however might have a problem. Unlike Heimerdinger and Corki, Veigar's face is hidden in shadow. How can you get that "fluffy" idea across with Veigar?

Unfortunately, the glowy-eyed-shadow-thing likely has to go. Bad news is we lose something of Veigar's original look. Good news is that we take a step further away from ripping off Final Fantasy's Vivi. So what should we put in it's place? What should we make him look like to preserve the "feel" of Veigar?

Finally coming back to that last picture again, fan art from the community has consistently depicted Veigar as having the appearance similar to a black cat when his hat is removed. A black cat certainly preserves the "mage" archetype. Just give him glowing yellow eyes and that will maintain the feel of the shadow-thing Veigar currently has going on. Problem solved!

Zarxis23 votes

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I think a point is to be made about the last picture in your post. Riot has recently taken the stance to get some sense of consistency across all the yordles. Essentially, males are furry, females are (for lack of a better term) smurfs.

With most of the other yordles, this hasn't been much of a problem. Heimerdinger made the transition surprisingly well and while Corki hasn't yet done so, I believe he'll be fine too. Veigar, however might have a problem. Unlike Heimerdinger and Corki, Veigar's face is hidden in shadow. How can you get that "fluffy" idea across with Veigar?

Unfortunately, the glowy-eyed-shadow-thing likely has to go. Bad news is we lose something of Veigar's original look. Good news is that we take a step further away from ripping off Final Fantasy's Vivi. So what should we put in it's place? What should we make him look like to preserve the "feel" of Veigar?

Finally coming back to that last picture again, fan art from the community has consistently depicted Veigar as having the appearance similar to a black cat when his hat is removed. A black cat certainly preserves the "mage" archetype. Just give him glowing yellow eyes and that will maintain the feel of the shadow-thing Veigar currently has going on. Problem solved!

I don't think this change is necessary. Veigar's "hidden face, glowing eyes" thing is iconic and serves to enhance his evil and not-a-yordle thematics. He's trying to look terrifying, and it's probably the strongest part of his pseudo-facade. His height and high-pitched voice do a perfectly good job of shooting through his fearsome appearance and revealing that he is, in fact, a "cute widdle yorwdle." It's part of the balancing of his silly, sadism, and sad, as A Superb Villain already mentioned. The height and voice make him silly, the fact that he's a yordle that's been twisted into such an evil creature is sad (along with how he's typically treated and how he's trying so hard to reject his species), and his appearance + sheer power and willingness (delight, even) to use it to utterly destroy and torture people are "sadistic."

Revealing his actual face (if he even has one anymore— for all we know, he's used his cosmic power and sheer hatred+ambition+sadism+etc. to become an energy-based being similar to Xerath) would ruin the trifecta of his character and make him too silly. The eyes and lack of a face (meant to represent a lack of humanity— or the yordle version of humanity as a sum of characteristics) are a typically-unheeded warning that Veigar is truly terrifying and unbound by the typical moral values/inherent "goodness" that being a yordle (or a human) would imply.

Marbelara2 votes

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I don't think this change is necessary. Veigar's "hidden face, glowing eyes" thing is iconic and serves to enhance his evil and not-a-yordle thematics. He's trying to look terrifying, and it's probably the strongest part of his pseudo-facade. His height and high-pitched voice do a perfectly good job of shooting through his fearsome appearance and revealing that he is, in fact, a "cute widdle yorwdle." It's part of the balancing of his silly, sadism, and sad, as A Superb Villain already mentioned. The height and voice make him silly, the fact that he's a yordle that's been twisted into such an evil creature is sad (along with how he's typically treated and how he's trying so hard to reject his species), and his appearance + sheer power and willingness (delight, even) to use it to utterly destroy and torture people are "sadistic."

Revealing his actual face (if he even has one anymore— for all we know, he's used his cosmic power and sheer hatred+ambition+sadism+etc. to become an energy-based being similar to Xerath) would ruin the trifecta of his character and make him too silly. The eyes and lack of a face (meant to represent a lack of humanity— or the yordle version of humanity as a sum of characteristics) are a typically-unheeded warning that Veigar is truly terrifying and unbound by the typical moral values/inherent "goodness" that being a yordle (or a human) would imply.

^^^ This, however I believe he uses a cloaking spell of sorts, probably with his hat (that would give the hat even more significance!). He definietely has a physical body based on his death animation (althought the death animations are inconsistent as heck so it doesn't have to mean much.)

I think the 'best of both worlds' would be some artistic approach to how his face is potrayed. Like now, always being shaded/black even when he's talking, everything's dark except for his glowing eyes. It could as well be remodeled to resemble a cat face instead of... the shape it has now, then colored Vantablack - as a result, from the front it would look no different than the original, and from the side (when unobscured by his amazing, giant collar) it would look like a yordle-shaped nothingness, perhaps even adding to his menacing looks. It could provide some easter egg moments too, and make him easier to animate in... cinematics... item 3070

A Superb Villain2 votes

Fun Fact: Final Boss Veigar has a slight protrusion on his face, suggesting a nose.

Ebonmaw Dragon2 votes

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Fun Fact: Final Boss Veigar has a slight protrusion on his face, suggesting a nose.

It can be also seen in the Splash art of White Mage Veigar

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121222145438/finalfantasy/images/7/73/Veigar-white-mage.jpg

Jas3Bae5 votes

It's not just vivi, but the original final fantasy black mage. I for one am quite fond of the symbolism and agree with Arrevax. Viegar is a yordle unlike other yordles. He doesn't share their mentallity, and therefore, shouldn't share their design concepts.

Sneak Dog6 votes

Not mentioning how Veigar is trying to look evil and scary enough so that all empires will kneel before him just because Veigar hates war?

A Superb Villain16 votes

Omitting that detail was my error, as it clearly displays Veigar's frayed sanity. He is evil, and proudly proclaims his despicable disposition, yet his ultimate goal is... world peace? World peace through absolute conquest, no less! The most pressing question is why? Is it so others will never need suffer as he has suffered and he is going about it the only way he knows how? Is it merely an excuse Veigar cites as justification for his cruelty?

Or is it something deeper?

Personally, I like to believe it is all of the above; a part of him fears a repetition of the torture he was forced to endure, and actively strives to prevent it by whatever means necessary, yet his time in Noxus has warped Veigar's mind, causing him to delight in inflicting the same pain he experienced and thrusting it onto others. Finally, his obsession with the world as a whole is the lingering shred of Veigar's previous life, when he was but a humble merchant eager to see the world. Now that desire is twisted by his madness.

It is this small mote of who Veigar was before he broke, and his state is all the more poignant realizing that wrapped among his loathing, paranoia, and malice is a tiny remnant of the boy before he became a monster, faded to near nothingness.

Jas3Bae8 votes

"The deepest villains are the truest of heroes. The martyrs who sacrifice any kindness the world may offer in order to do what- in their best perception- must be done."

Narasimha4 votes

"There is no such thing as a 'hero' nor a 'villain', nor any 'gods' nor 'demons'. There are merely perspectives. One nation's hero is another's tormentor. One religon's god is the epitome of evil in another. No one is right, and yet, no one is wrong."

Davy Crockett2 votes

This is what makes me love Veigar as a champion. His end dream is a worthy cause to too look up to. He doesn't want anyone to suffer more, no more war and violence. This is what gives Veigar a purpose.

Curling Veigar4 votes

+1

That is all

Embertine4 votes

I've only recently started playing veigar maybe a year ago. However I've found that he suits me fine. (Maybe it's the inner villain in me? I've always liked playing the villains and badguys in games. ie, Nod in C&C.)

I play him quite well. My last match with him I went 22/4 and was rocking 1096 AP last I had looked before the match ended about five or ten minutes later. I remember saying to the enemy team, "You remember how Veigar got nerfed and everyone was so upset? Well I say, what nerf?" That one got them laughing.

Veigar and Teemo are my two favorite yordles, and In truth I just have loads of fun playing them. So I guess what I'm saying is that I agree fully 100% with your post here. You sir are truly a superb villain!

PS. A message from teemo. . . .

http://i1378.photobucket.com/albums/ah116/Daniel_Fritsch/Peace_Through_Power___NOD_by_KFGauthier_zpsxtdmxod2.jpg

A Superb Villain3 votes

More support for vile villainy vying for verisimilitude!

Let's be honest, villains are fun, they are interesting. Antagonists are typically the ones who move the plot, they set the stage; without them, there is no story. Now I would never be so supportive of true acts of villainy in the real world, but in fiction, it is enjoyable rooting for the party that inevitably loses in the end. Usually.

And your compliment is truly touching, it warms the black pit where my shriveled heart once beat.

Postscript Charismatic as Kane may be, I'm more of a Scrin kind of guy. Forgive me!

Embertine3 votes

lol that's alright. I love playing the scrin more than NOD. Speaking for myself, I think the tiberium sun era NOD was the best.

lemonlimeguy4 votes

I just want to chime in that the very outer edge of the black region in the representation of the black hole, what you describe as "the ring of light surrounding the incomprehensible pit of inky nothingness," is actually not the event horizon. It's the photon sphere, the shell at which photons will endlessly orbit the black hole. The event horizon is actually a little further in.

A Superb Villain1 votes

Right, the point at which nothing escapes. Thank you for the clarification. Cosmic forces and celestial bodies are not exactly my forte. Also, I thought the ring of light is called and Accretion disc?

lemonlimeguy4 votes

Nah, nah. An accretion disk is a disk of material which rotates about a large celestial body. Any given bit of material is being pulled toward the body, but since the body is in motion, the material's trajectory is always a little off (think of it like the material is always aiming where the body is rather than where it's going to be). Generalize that idea to millions of bits of material and you eventually get a disk shape.

Also, light that's inside the photosphere but outside of the event horizon still has the possibility to escape the black hole's gravitational pull in theory, depending on its trajectory.

RumyRumyTumpkin4 votes

I am so happy to see some else who cares so much about Veigar.

Thank you for this post

2nd Fiddle4 votes

I've been partial to the idea that "Event Horizon" and "Dark Matter" imply that Veigar is channeling his own twisted version of the celestial powers that Bard and Soraka use.

If only because it makes him look that much more evil.

A Superb Villain4 votes

Good old Evilwizardington. If Veigar is anything like Black Mage, which he is to a shocking degree, there is a special place in hell for him, and it is called the throne.

Now he just needs to oust Teemo to take his rightful place.

PopePancake3 votes

I just hope they don't change any of his spells or abilities, I really want a VU, not any form of a kit change. I agree that his spells in-game need a touch up as they look pretty silly.

A Superb Villain3 votes

I would find this perfectly acceptable as well.

Rew7114 votes

Just so you know, I didn't read but I upvoted because I love Veigar.

A Superb Villain3 votes

This is also fine; so long as Riot knows that we are talking about him and have a general interest in his future is enough.

Athenes Lulu3 votes

Heil Veigar, our lord and savior of darkness.

Best Darius KR2 votes

It's a good thread, but since it's about Veigar, i doubt Riot will look at it

A Superb Villain10 votes

Riot can't run from evil! #No one can! http://i.imgur.com/5CZmXgD.gif

Trídent4 votes

2spooky4u

GreenLore2 votes

Overall I am unsure about how evil Veigar truly is. It is possible that he is just some harmless villain,who always talks about how evil he is,without doing anything even remotely evil.

But it is also possible that he is just as evil as he claims to be,that he is ready to kill you if make fun of him.

The small story about him trying to steal the mothership would support the first option(I mean using magic balloons?Really?),but his ingame style actually fits the second possibility better(in that you first laugh about him,but then realize that he has amassed a huge amount of AP and nukes everyone).

It is also possible that veigar started out as a harmless villain,but got pushed eventually into becoming a real villain. This case actually seems to be the most interesting to me and given the more episodic approach of the new lore,I'd like to hear a story about how Veigar killed someone for the first time.

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