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Will Kayle and Morgana be Darkin?

Solideus··5 votes·3,047 views

The rival angels are currently in lore limbo. Will they be part of the Darkin family?

Here's some things we know. There are five Darkin left. - We will probably see new Darkin faces at some point.

There are three Darkin known to history through myths and records. - Two others may be familiar already.

Kayle and Morgana are tagged as Demacian and Noxian respectively. - They may be closely affiliated to those factions.

Kayle is tagged as friends with Galio. - Implying she has either been around for a good while or has been in touch with at least one Demacian gargoyle recently.

Aatrox has been in contact with many factions over many centuries. - Including Demacia and Noxus.

He shares with the sisters themes of Abrahamic angels and demons.

Aatrox has connections with non-darkin characters, like Tryndamere and possibly Jax.

Aatrox and Kayle has noticeably similar elements to their abilities.

What's against it. Kayle and Morgana are from another world. This may very well change when they are updated, though.

Now, we don't know the whole idea behind the Darkin five. Things might become clearer when another one is released or the angels are rewritten.

What do you guys think?

EDIT: I forgot that Kayle and Morgana also share similar themes with the Protectorate and Magelords from Aatrox's lore. THAT may be the connection with the greatest potential!

33 Comments

Valaran Nara4 votes

Welp, after reading one person's theory, I am hoping that Darkin are living weapons.

Which explains why Aatrox is called "The Darkin Blade" because the blade is a darkin...whose name is Aatrox.

And if it's so, then Varus is also possessed by a Darkin! His bow which happens to also be a living weapon! :D Please, Rito, make darkin living weapons. Darkin shield should be next. hue hue hue.

Saint Latona1 votes

Mind blown!

SchaakaKon1 votes

If these weapons are the darkin themselves, then what is Aatrox?

It'll be cute to have a darkin Megazord but there is little backing that theory.

Destínum1 votes

Aatrox's human body is probably just some random guy the sword has taken over and changed to a more preffered form (with wings for example). My theory is that the reason Aatrox has been around for so long is because he's done this to several people over the course of history and then disposed of them when their bodies started growing weak from old age.

Solideus1 votes

If the weapon theory is true, maybe it is possible Aatrox's body came from an "angel" like Kayle and Morgana.

Destínum1 votes

I doubt it since they are from another world completely, while Aatrox is from Runeterra.

Destínum1 votes

I doubt Varus bow is one though. Although it does seem "alive", it doesn't seem sentient like Aatrox's blade.

Valaran Nara1 votes

I doubt Varus bow is one though. Although it does seem "alive", it doesn't seem sentient like Aatrox's blade.

In all honesty I'm just going based off of this guy's thought pattern: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/EookJA38-the-darkin-facts-myths-and-theories

And it's possible that the bow is darkin because it's corrupting Varus and taking over his mind just like the blade Aatrox has done to his vessel. And it's a great read. @w@

Destínum1 votes

Yeah, I guessed you did. :P

Tit Master1 votes

Welp, after reading one person's theory, I am hoping that Darkin are living weapons.

Which explains why Aatrox is called "The Darkin Blade" because the blade is a darkin...whose name is Aatrox.

And if it's so, then Varus is also possessed by a Darkin! His bow which happens to also be a living weapon! :D Please, Rito, make darkin living weapons. Darkin shield should be next. hue hue hue.

STAND IN FRONT OF BRAUM!

Quepha3 votes

i have an incredible hatred for Aatrox, his character, and his lore. i am really attached to kayle an morgana's lore and rewriting it to connect them to aatrox would make me furious.

AcidTheWarlock2 votes

It was confirmed in one of the most recent lore pieces that the Darkin are living weapons, and I don't see how Kayle and Morgana are weapons at all.

Aatrox is the sword.

Varus' bow and the thing he shares a body with, Pallas, are likely a Darkin as well.

Hate to kill your theory but it seems very unlikely.

Solideus1 votes

Wow, serious thread necro! I guess it remains to be seen what happens after their double VGU, but them being darkin seem a bit less likely atm. :)

GreenLore1 votes

Well it wasn't really confirmed. After all it was written in the journal of a guy and that person might simply be mistaken about the true nature of the Darkin.(also the term living weapon could be metaphorical)

TerraRising1 votes

Probably, but I'd take both a step further.

Whereas Aatrox inspires for individual battles and events, Kayle and Morgana could inspire Demacia and Noxus to constantly be in conflict.

Fried Noob1 votes

They can remain heavenly beings, who descended to Runeterra and took up residence in Noxus and Demacia and used them as pawns in their power struggles.

SchaakaKon1 votes

Ive thought about this too, as Kayle/Morgana are due for a lore rework (since other worlds dont exists, no religions persist and the notion of demons/angels are being weeded out).

Aatrox is a 'pseudo demon' as in he bears all appearances and properties of demons and devils but with out religious connotations. The exact same reasons why Dungeon and Dragons 2ed had 'Tanar'ri' because there was a backlash from the religious public and I am guessing Riot has taken a preemptive step to mitigate this by naming their new demons/devils 'Darkin'.

Personality wise: What we gleam from Aatrox is that he is a stoic avatar of war, but there is no reason why a darkin can not be lawful (Kayle) or sadistic (Morgana).

Aesthetically Aatrox shares wings with the sisters. Other than that they have little in common, since Morgana/Kayle are very human like.

I personally only see two choices for the remaining two darkin; It can either be the Morgana/Kayle reworked into the darkin race or Evelyn/Jax (which hold their own merits mentioned in a bajillion posts allready).

Shokah1 votes

They will certainly remove the Angelic aspect with some other thing to ground them to Runeterra in their retcon.

Darkin was my suggestion when asked on a similiar thread more than a month ago...

Thinking about their retcons my suggestion is... To move Morgana to Zaun. I know Demacia vs Noxus is the "big" deal, but Zaun appears to be more 'free' in the chaotic sense than Noxus.

To use D&D Alignment as a crutch for my argument - Kayle is Lawful Good, and Morgana being her opposite number should be Chaotic Evil. Noxus is more Lawful since they have tenets of strength etc as their societal pillars and value the command structure of military.

Zaun has more ahem madmen - with Viktor, Mundo etc being home to more 'loose' definations of rules. Morgana has previously been shown to rallying against the oppresion of Kayle's rules as they represent Tyranny - which more or less Noxus is... I think they set Morgana there originally but it just seems like another cliche here.

Give Zaun Morgana!

Centuros1 votes

Or... she could go over to the Shadow Isles. It all depends on what they decide she actually IS.

Destínum1 votes

She's a fallen angel. She always has and there's no reason whatsoever for riot to change that. Evelynn is the one with identity crisis, not Morgana. They put her in Noxus, and that's probably where's she's staying.

Solideus1 votes

Zaun is mostly about unrestricted sicence, not really magic or history. Morgana isn't really pure evil either, if her old lore has any indication. She used black magic, but was also a rebel against an authoritarian faction.

Shokah1 votes

Zaun is mostly about unrestricted sicence, not really magic or history. Morgana isn't really pure evil either, if her old lore has any indication. She used black magic, but was also a rebel against an authoritarian faction.

What is black magic other than non-approved "evil" magic?

Yes, they have played up the tech war between Zaun and Piltover plenty. But...TF got his magic powers in Zaun right?

If Morgana IS pure evil or not, does that make a difference in whether she would want to deal with Militaristic aspects to Noxus? Isn't "might makes right" the exact reason she went against Kayle? I suppose Noxus has upward mobility if you can take it, but that just seems like it makes you the next oppressor. Also the older lore for Noxus actually talks about being xenophobic and Morgana isn't human.

Destínum1 votes

Dark magic =/= evil.

Morgana is far from pure evil. Just read her lore.

GreenLore1 votes

Overall I doubt that kayle and Morgana will become darkin,looking at aatrox I'd say it is likely that they are simply the demon counterpart of runeterra,so I'd say that the others are probably going to be demonic too.

Another reason against it is that they have already said there are going to be 5 darkin,that sounds like they do have already plans for the other darkin(would be kinda lame if they announce there are only 5 without a plan),retconning old champs into darkin would also sound like a waste of potential,because people now expect that there will be 4 new darkin.

Shokah1 votes

Overall I doubt that kayle and Morgana will become darkin,looking at aatrox I'd say it is likely that they are simply the demon counterpart of runeterra,so I'd say that the others are probably going to be demonic too.

Another reason against it is that they have already said there are going to be 5 darkin,that sounds like they do have already plans for the other darkin(would be kinda lame if they announce there are only 5 without a plan),retconning old champs into darkin would also sound like a waste of potential,because people now expect that there will be 4 new darkin.

On the flip side, they said there was 3 KNOWN darkin, but I don't believe they ever revealed who those 2 are...

I don't see why Kayle/Morgana don't fit at least as well as the Eve/Jax theory I saw kicking around.

GreenLore1 votes

It was said that 3 of them are known to HISTORY not us. Aatrox is one of the 3 known,not because we know him,but because there are records about him in several books,artifacts,etc.

Thats why it is said that even the 3 known darkin may not know about the other 2,because they were talking about these darkin being unknown in-universe.

And well they could fit,its just that it seems as a waste of a "slot" among the darkin to simply retcon an existing champ into one(this also counts for jax and eve) The sole fact that they said they don't have much of a plan for those 2 hints that they won't be turned into darkin,because Riot seems to have plans for the darkin.

Crimsonknight901 votes

{quoted}

On the flip side, they said there was 3 KNOWN darkin, but I don't believe they ever revealed who those 2 are...

I don't see why Kayle/Morgana don't fit at least as well as the Eve/Jax theory I saw kicking around.

Varus Jax there done*[slayer-jinx-wink]*

GenoXx1 votes

Give me an honest reasonable explanation why you think that they would become darkins?

Stars Shaper1 votes

Aatrox and Kayle has noticeably similar elements to their abilities.

The only similarity I can see is the increase of AA range but even there there are more differences than similarities.

Destínum1 votes

In the same Q&A you linked, a Rioter confirmed that Kayle and Morgana's race have nothing to do with the Darkin. I'm still sticking to the theory that the Darkin are living weapons.

Starlighte1 votes

Honestly, Morgana and Kayle will probably be outside of the mold of Runeterra and stay that way. The whole point of their lore is that their "evilness" or "goodness" stems from what your beliefs on freedom are. Anyone who has read the lore of those two realizes that the strength of the story is on perspective. It could be argued that Kayle is Lawful Evil, depending on how you view tyranny and the limiting of freedoms.

Riot might be able to somehow manage to retcon their asses into the Darkin, and honestly if they do that they're going to upset a lot of fans of those two. Kayle and Morgana have some of the most unique lore and one of the most interesting dichotomies in the game. Any change to them will automatically upset this dichotomy, which can exist regardless of whether or not the IoW ever existed.

The issue they have now is that the IoW was the only reason for them to be on Runeterra. Morgana wanted power, and Kayle wanted Morgana to be stopped. So the question now becomes what to do with them? What are their reasons for being here? Where do we go from here?

Honestly I have no faith in the narrative department for doing this story justice. The BEST we can hope for is that they retcon Kayle and Morgana in a way that has them seeking one person who is incredibly powerful, and that person shackles them to fight eachother for eternity. If Riot takes away the sisterly differences of politics, they have literally killed the unique lore that existed by itself, apart from Runeterra.

/end rant

Please don't give them ideas of making Kayle and Morgana into Darkin. I would rather them just not touch the lore of those two altogether because they've done a shit-tastic job.

Moonboy651 votes

Darkin are living weapons (swords, bows, etc...)

Kayle has a sword but it's not alive like Aatrox's sword Morgana has no weapons aside from using dark magic

Solideus1 votes

Wow, serious thread necro! I guess it remains to be seen what happens after their double VGU, but them being darkin seem a bit less likely atm. :)

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