Model View for Karth Sej Jayce and Bard skins

Solari Fortune·Oct 18, 2016·7 votes·7,589 views

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47 Comments

Meep ManOct 18, 20164 votes

Interested in what Meeps look like

IchiibaruOct 18, 20164 votes

Reminds me of WarCraft.

RalanrOct 18, 20163 votes

Welp, time to actually pay for a Sejuani skin.

BECAUSE THAT IS GLORIOUS!!!

CarameI FrappeOct 18, 20161 votes

I just want to know why she's an elf riding a lion for. I love the skin, but i'm also dying to know what the reference here is XD

RalanrOct 18, 20161 votes

I bet it's meant to be generic fantasy. Wouldn't surprise me if it's based from a Rioter's pathfinder or d&d character.

CarameI FrappeOct 18, 20161 votes

I was thinking Narnia since it's someone riding a huge lion into battle like the stories ... then again you're most likely right. Still, I cannot wait to see what inspired this skin.

Please, Rioter~ do tell!

EDIT: Also forgot to mention that it might be a tribute to Warcraft because of it's legacy.

RiotKindlejackOct 20, 20164 votes

More like Warcraft also draws heavy inspiration from fantasy novels/rpgs. There are a ton of parallels between Tolkien's Middle Earth, D&D, Warhammer and Warcraft (Warcraft came last).

When we were working on the Lion I did do the Aslan impression from South Park more than once >:P

patmax17Oct 20, 20162 votes

well, warcraft and warhammer are ralated somehow, after all: http://kotaku.com/5929161/how-warcraft-was-almost-a-warhammer-game-and-how-that-saved-wow ;)

CarameI FrappeOct 20, 20162 votes

Now my search comes to an end ... thank you for informing me about the skin's origins (or what inspired it). For a Rioter to answer my question means a lot to me, so I truly appreciate you for doing that.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

P.S: Totally buying that skin because I love D&D and fantasy games.

Forhonor321Oct 19, 20161 votes

Maybe it's to go along with the d&d themed skins that got released a while back for Braum Gragas Ryze & Varus

RiotKindlejackOct 20, 20162 votes

Yes, consider this an expansion >:)

Chromatic EagleOct 20, 20161 votes

I hope you guys can make a little comic or short story about these campaigns.

RiotKindlejackOct 20, 20162 votes

We aren't narcissistic enough to do that, instead we imagined what the champion's rpg characters would be! eg. Karthus rolls a warlock and proceeds to betray the party for lulz.

TheorexOct 20, 20161 votes

So quick question; since Karthus is getting a new skin right. Shouldn't it be about time that he gets you know some much needed updating. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/JdcIegI3-karthus-requiem-vs-counterplay

Thats ONLY talking about his ulti. Lets not forget to mention the incredibly high amount of dashes in the game. Those dashes make landing a Q in lane near impossible. Biggest offenders are Yas, LB, Fizz, Ekko, Kata, Talon, Etc. Then we have to take into account champions with high movespeed as well; Ryze, Ekko, GP, Etc.

Do you know or know of anybody that is bringing up how bad karthus is? The only people that do well with him are the mains. He is literally a "I main this champion" champion. I don't play him, because honestly. I don't want to spend about 20-30 games per assassin to learn the match up to just break even in lane. He is incredibly fun, but just overall too unimpactful to play.

Just wanted to know if he is anywhere in anything in any notes of anyone at Riot. #BringBackRequiem

RiotKindlejackOct 20, 20162 votes

It's been a loooong time since I had a spare moment to visit live balance, and I don't think he was changed in the Mage update that just happened so I don't know about his future. I used to play Karthus mid a lot in S3, but not into assassins - if they locked Talon I'd counter with Pantheon, Katarina I'd play Kassadin. You're right though mobility creep has left him with a lot of bad matchups.

dapositivevikingOct 19, 20161 votes

it's gotta be part of the same line of skins that lionheart braum, caskbreaker gragas, those characters

RiotKindlejackOct 20, 20162 votes

They are, good eye! And just like those skins there are some in-game items they've collected on adventures too...

dapositivevikingOct 20, 20162 votes

such as... a couple dorans shields on sejuanis packs?

Stars ShaperOct 20, 20161 votes

Jayce carring item 3028 and item 2031 . Typical Arthurian paladin :P

RiotKindlejackOct 20, 20162 votes

His Hammer has a item 3070 inset into it too, although it's only blue in ranged form.

Stars ShaperOct 20, 20161 votes

Is it the central blue spike?

Edit: The roll of paper coming down the shoulderplate reminds me of the WoW Paladin Judgement Armor :3

RiotKindlejackOct 21, 20163 votes

Warhammer again :)

beanyOct 21, 20161 votes

Could you pass on this thread http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/bug-report/KgJZts4N-riot-regrding-jayce-missing-animations to the qa team? I think its sad that the hammer for Jayce has such a nice design, but at this rate no one will ever see it in-game because his animations have been missing for two years.

RiotKindlejackOct 21, 20162 votes

QA are embedded onto skins, as they are on every other team that needs QA support. I'll follow up on it today. I don't play Jayce, wasn't even aware it was bugged so thanks for pointing me to this.

Stars ShaperOct 21, 20161 votes

Indeed xD I guess it's something ratherly iconic of templar/paladinish things

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d8/69/b0/d869b0f6ae74f5be01f6e865bdf57590.jpg

RiotKindlejackOct 21, 20163 votes

I'm familiar with the set, I think they got inspiration from the same place. In fact Mark Gibbons, one of my heroes, worked on Warhammer, WoW and LoL! Talk about a resume.

RiotKindlejackOct 20, 20162 votes

The Lion/Elf combo? We tried some different mounts but the Lion with Elf has roots in Warhammer.

We tried something like this too :P

GapyboOct 20, 20162 votes

Can we make Lion feel more alive. It seems dead inside. Make it roar or something.

RiotKindlejackOct 20, 20162 votes

Actually it does roar on some of the abilities, one of the few times we've had new sfx on a 750.

GapyboOct 20, 20162 votes

Maybe it's the lack of mouth animations compared to other skins. His head/face is very static.

RiotKindlejackOct 20, 20163 votes

I'm not working on Sejuani myself so I will ask about that tomorrow, thanks for the feedback!

EROTIC RAID BOSSOct 20, 20161 votes

I've actually noticed that recently there seems to be more effects on 750>975 skins compared to before, like little additions you might have done before, like the world breaker skins seem to have some unique effects, is that something you guys have more room to do now if you think its appropriate?

patmax17Oct 20, 20161 votes

Speaking of that skin in particular, I like the idea, but unfortunately the lion's neck/mane is animated weirdly (I guess it's because Bristle doesn't have a mane, thus the model has no rig for it): when the lion bends the head upwards, the mane folds into itself (instead of, dunno, sliding over the shoulders?). Is there something you can do about this?

RiotKindlejackOct 20, 20162 votes

You're right, it's because we've been pretty ambitious on the base rig. There might be some adjustment to the weighting that can be done but I suspect it's already had a pass. Thanks for bringing it up!

WindOfVengeanceOct 18, 20162 votes

Meanwhile Cassiopeia Viktor Gangplank Rengar Swain Mordekaiser didn't get a skin for a "decent" amount of time

EDIT: Forgot to mention Zyra :D

Vhan8765Oct 18, 20161 votes

You forgot to add in Zyra who hasn't gotten anything in 3 years.

GreenLoreOct 18, 20161 votes

Swain and Morde are on the list for a VGU,Rengar is on the list for a bigger gameplay update(which he'll get in the upcoming assassin-rework).

And Gangplank basically got his captain skin with his VGU(yeah I know it is essentially a special traditional skin,but its still there) last year. Though I agree that Viktor and Cassio could really need a new skin.

ArakadiaOct 19, 20161 votes

Swain is really fricken far from a VGU. I can see it in like July of 2018.

GreenLoreOct 19, 20161 votes

Yorick basically had to wait 5 years for his rework,so I doubt that they'll make an exception for swain just because his rework will need to wait another 1-2 years.

ArakadiaOct 19, 20161 votes

Yorick was a terrible thing. I doubt Riot will do what they did to him again.

GreenLoreOct 19, 20161 votes

They did it with Urgot as well and they said already that champs who are on the list for VGUs are avoided by the skinteam

ArakadiaOct 19, 20161 votes

Again, Yorick was a mistake. I doubt they'll do it if they dont have to. I thought somewhere I saw a Rioters say Swain is eligible for a skin. Additionally, they gave Katarina and Ekko skins even though they knew they would receive changes sooner then Swain would.

GreenLoreOct 19, 20161 votes

I am pretty sure that the rioter said uneligibl and not eligible. And again,they are currently doing the exact same thing with Urgot,who still didn't get his update after several years,so why would swain be the exception here?

And the thing with Kata and Ekko is that skins(especially high quality skins) can take months to do,especially for a group of high-quality skins that includes a legendary. So they likely started their work on the project skins before the rework team decided to do an assassin update. I mean remember that a Tank or Diver update was also considered and even if they went with assassins,they wouldn't know if Ekko or Katarina would get big updates(and in the end Ekko doesn't get any new abilities and Katarina reuses all of her old ability-effects,so they literally lost nothing).