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A Superb Villain3 votes

I think it was resolved much to quickly, but I suppose the format dictates a swift resolution. I mean, seriously, Graves went through horrifying pain, held onto a grudge for years, and he got over it in one sentence?

MrDrBudd10 votes

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I think it was resolved much to quickly, but I suppose the format dictates a swift resolution. I mean, seriously, Graves went through horrifying pain, held onto a grudge for years, and he got over it in one sentence?

More like he gets over it once he finally listens to what T.F. had to say, saw how defeated he looked and knew he was being honest.

Decrit7 votes

Aaaaaaaand realizing that he was about to make both of them die. On the gallow' s road many people cool the head off.

OuttaControl561 votes

No, more like stews on it for a couple of years, goes to Bilgewater in a dramatic final chase, comes a hair's breadth from death to realize that TF was telling the truth.

Then TF saves him and they both eat oranges.

GreenLore5 votes

I really like it that TF and Graves actually became friends again a nice progression to their story.

Although I kinda doubt that Gangplank is truly dead. I mean yes,they said that champs can die now,but that simply seems to be too soon.I mean Gangplank himself almost didn't do anything during the whole event. It would even fit with his VO a bit considering that he asks for "[...] a good ship, and a bad crew." implying that he doesn't have one at that moment.

I am also surprised by Miss Fortunes character development,it looks like she became more ruthless now,not feeling satisfied despite getting her revenge on Gp.

Sharjo9 votes

One of two things happens with GP now.

  1. He's not dead and plots a huge uprising against MF from the shadows.
  2. He is dead and returns next time the Harrowing comes around to get his revenge.

I am also surprised by Miss Fortunes character development,it looks like she became more ruthless now,not feeling satisfied despite getting her revenge on Gp.

Karma "Never become a monster to defeat one."

GreenLore5 votes

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Karma "Never become a monster to defeat one."

Well it looks more like she became a monster AFTER she defeated one :p

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

Cough cough Varus cough cough

Desiderium3 votes

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Karma "Never become a monster to defeat one."

Varus

Shíny3 votes

Pretty rough life for a gangplank fan. First he gets reworked and his tone gets changed completely and then they kill off the guy i'm trying to get to know.

OuttaControl561 votes

;_;

Gallowgrim2 votes

...Plank leading the Harrowing.. holy hell, that'd be awesome.

..almost as awesome as this plot event.

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

My head just exploded.

lolipopevelynn2 votes

what this means is that skins are actually canon now, which is odd...

captain fortune and spooky GP are now canon.

Sharjo2 votes

It's rare but yeah. Spooky Gangplank's probably not totally canon because he'd have to be ressurected by the Shadow Isles and that'd make him very green and he'd probably still be wearing his torn up clothes and not have a spectral version of them, but the event skins: Captain Fortune, Cutpurse TF and Cutthroat Graves are canon. The latter two are from years ago though, when they were younger and before Graves got locked up.

RiotKindlejack5 votes

Along with Captain Fortune, the new Graves and TF skins are also a depiction of the pair back when they were younger and worked together :O

Desiderium2 votes

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Along with Captain Fortune, the new Graves and TF skins are also a depiction of the pair back when they were younger and worked together :O

Are we going to get new skins now that the pair are together again? Maybe more mature and decorated versions of the Cutthroat skins?

RiotKindlejack1 votes

I would love to do more lore skins if players like them :D

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

Of course we like them! I was afraid that you gave up on them.

RiotKindlejack2 votes

Well, I only started on the team in January. Before then I was just a player that loves lore too! I asked if we could do more and at the time there was a hesitance to tie skins explicitly with canon lore (which we often refer to as "Core IP") so these Bildgewater skins are testing the water. I think they turned out great though and I hope they are well enough received that the team can do more :)

Chromatic Eagle4 votes

I can't blame you since you're new, but why would Riot ever think like that? They've made plenty of lore skins before, seen the complaints about lack of lore, and have probably seen plenty of skin ideas involving lore.

RiotKindlejack2 votes

There are good reasons, a few of which I can talk about:

  • Most players didn't engage with the old lore of LoL, and without context some of those old lore skins can seem confusing or weak thematics.
  • When choosing a theme for a champion's next skin we try to explore the options that are going to appeal to the most players of that champion, and so thematics that are visually stronger or have exciting particle hooks often win out.
  • The 750 tier didn't really exist and that's a great spot for a lot (not all) of skins that portray a Champion in their past/present or possibly future.
  • It's quite hard to imagine how a 'lore skin' is going to stand out from the base skin of a lot of champions. It was a challenge for the team to find a design for TF/Graves that we were confident in.
  • Even with them being tied to an event, how will people see these skins in the future without context? Will it encourage them to go and read the lore around them (I hope it does) or will they end up like Acolyte Lee Sin?

Also remember that, despite being mindful of the risks we still had the confidence to try again >:)

ArcticSirius2 votes

Man, just imagine pre-SI skins. If such a thing were ever possible. The best I could think would be Morde or maybe Eve. But always nice to imagine what those could look like. Or Ascension skins for Shurima! Ascended Sivir could be pretty sweet.

RiotKindlejack4 votes

Yeah! I love the idea of origin skins that really add to a champion's lore. It would really reveal a lot about champs like Morde and Eve. Any of the Shadow Isles champs really. Vi might be cool too? Skins like Tyrant Swain that show a champ's 'full power' form are cool but I do like the origin ones because often the story there is a bigger surprise. Although for this event the origin skins of Graves and TF being back-to-back on the streets of Bildgewater was something we knew, while the MF skin was a big surprise!

ArcticSirius1 votes

Man, now I want a legendary skin of Amumu where it's of him before his death. Could answer alot of questions about his past (don't play him, but I'd love to see it). Origin skins are definitely a market you guys could sink time into and it would pay off for the people who love skins and love lore.

Noctius282 votes

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Along with Captain Fortune, the new Graves and TF skins are also a depiction of the pair back when they were younger and worked together :O

Please do more of these kind of Lore or alternate story skins, they are the best for us lore fans ^^

Imagine a world where Katarina betrayed Noxus to be with Garen (Demacian Katarina) A world where Shen lost the match and he became the master of the forbidden shadow art (Shadow Shen) A predeath Sion (no not the barbarian one, I mean a serious Noxian General)

RiotKindlejack3 votes

Alternate story skins are super fun; if Udyr had stayed in Freljord and had Freljordian spirit animals, if Leona had condemned the Solari instead of embracing her role, if Kassadin had succumbed to the Void etc.

Lore skins are a little trickier because they carry a lot of weight being canon, but as a lore fan they are my favourite too!

Decrit1 votes

Or if Veigar did not got into jail, reedemed somewhat and became a sorta of magical guardian wizard.

i wanna see that.

1Ferdinand11 votes

Isn't Harbinger Kassadin a "corrupted to the void" version?

RiotKindlejack1 votes

Nah he's just a Giger-esque design, no lore there.

RiotKindlejack3 votes

It takes a while to grow a decent beard >;)

7ha7guy7771 votes

So classic Graves got his shotgun in Piltover after Act 3 ended?

7ha7guy7771 votes

I guess EUW is aheed of NA because i can't find Act III in the LoL site

NickorizeHD1 votes

Right when I started loving the new GP's character, BOOM LIKED HIS LOYAL CREW OF MISFITS? RAZORFISH FOOD. LIKED HIS SHIP? SUNK. LIKED HIM? POSSIBLY RAZORFISH FOOD AND SUNK. Y U DO DIS RITO? At least TF and Graves are buddies again Gangplank "I am as unsinkable as my ship."

Anuzarg1 votes

Gangplank "My ship is my soul"

Shénzhì1 votes

{quoted} Gangplank "I am as unsinkable as my ship."

"Gangplank’s ship is gone. Bits of smoking debris are scattered all across the bay" Not indestructible.

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Gangplank "My ship is my soul"

Oh snap. He's a phantom?! What?! Nah... I don't buy it.

Celio Hogane HD1 votes

Spoilers TL;DR Twisted Fate and Graves are cool again. Gankplan "dies" Miss fortune becomes gankplank 2. (Die as a hero or live enough to become the villain)

Decrit1 votes

That bloody hell smells of british EUW fellow.

However going to like this a lot, especially the fans reaction :DD

Crimsônz1 votes

They probably have a legendary Davy jones locker gp skin awating us.

Crimsônz1 votes

MissFortune can kill Gangplank but Graves cant have a cigar?!

Shénzhì1 votes

I was at least half-expecting Graves to have a smoke in the story. Nope... He chokes on Miss Fortune's mess instead.

RiotRiotJaredan5 votes

It was Gangplank who was smoking.

patmax171 votes

and MF in her story?

DwarvenGiant1 votes

D: Too soon?

Krizalid1 votes

...You just couldn't resist, could you? XD

Maxxii1 votes

guys i have a nooby question in act 3 on TwistedFate and Graves story we have to have 6win and hire 4 different brawlers or is it one or the other gets you the icon? ty for any response i get in advance :)

Sharjo1 votes

Both are required but they don't need to sync; you can complete the 4 different brawlers criteria even if you don't win the games.

MightyMaose1 votes

You did it right this time Riot, now you have to go back and redo the Shurima & Freljord events. I wanna see more lasting effects on the League world too, like when we got the "Ionian boots of Lucidity" (amongst other things) from the Ionia vs Noxus show match

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