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Could a spellbook also be a Darkin?

Sancre··5 votes·803 views

I think that mostly everything could be a darkin right now, as some fellow users have exposed theories of Death's dance, and etwhalt and even urgot as Darkins. In one of these topics I posted that if one item were to be a darkin, for me would be Mejai's, judging by how it is used and grows as if it were alive by feeding on the enemy. While i posted that idea like a simple thought, thinking further about it reveals a fearsome darkin. An ancient book posessed by a demonic entity that parasite powerful mages, in order to steal their magic formulas and magic itself when they pass away due to this parasite, and then, when its hostless, draw more magicians with a promise of untold magical power and enchantments just by claiming the book and reading it.

But most of the Darkins we know by now seems to be just weapons with edges, and every darkin, a physical fighter, leaving no room for a unholy sorcerer (unless it was a battle mage, but that would clash with the need of using another weapon apart from the book). So I would really like to know if a Sorcerer Darkin would be possible in the future, or the darkins are limited to warriors and pants archers, resembling the 4 Horsemen.

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reaperteaser4 votes

the "darkin seal"

A Superb Villain3 votes

https://i.imgflip.com/1cfjth.jpg

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO2 votes

So is every single morally ambiguous or evil looking item a potential Darkin now? Is Rabaddons a Darkin cus of the spooky face?

Lady Faceless2 votes

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So is every single morally ambiguous or evil looking item a potential Darkin now? Is Rabaddons a Darkin cus of the spooky face?

After the boards logic, yes. I probably should start a list and write everything down that the boards think is a darkin...it's just too hilarious, tbh.

Sancre1 votes

No idea, as i don't think that any item is actually a darkin, it would be devaluating them a lot (although i'm quite surprised of how the Etwhalt works, i wonder if riot will change it later on or will keep it as that kind of living weapon).

Personally, I now would love to see a spellbook darkin, something similar to Krosmaga's Necronomigore would look great in my opinion.

http://staticns.ankama.com/upload/backoffice/direct/2017-06-22/f7d520be86862bdd3002375217af0683.png

Catastrop1 votes

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(unless it was a battle mage, but that would clash with the need of using another weapon apart from the book)

Okay seriously, where does this come from? I don't see how giving a mage a weapon with a sharp edge makes them a "Battlemage" as opposed to one casting spells from a tome while agilely weaving through the battlefield.

Sancre2 votes

Doesn't really have much to do with the topic in hand, but oh well.

The battlemage has been defined since a very long time as a mage clad in heavy armor that can use both magic and close combat weapons, while the light armored form is called spellsword, the mage casting spells while weaving though the battlefield is Ahri

The most simple definition would probably be "the battlemage can defend and even win a close combat battle, while a normal mage will have to run for his life if an enemy ever got too close to them"

You gave me an idea though, if this tome darkin were to exist, it could use weapons made out of solid arcane magic to become a Battlemage (although the other darkin's armor look light, so maybe a spellsword with a bit of mobility would be better)

Catastrop1 votes

I'm really sorry about the off topic question, but it's one of those personal peeves I've developed when I saw some what would have been cool mage art, had it not been for the hilariously outlandish weapons they gave to the characters, a while back.

I get the heavy armour thing, but personally I've always seen a battlemage as not necessarily needing armour or weapons to function. Simply a mage whose fit enough to be agile and dart around the field while using magic to defend and attack at the same time. They might use a weapon, but it would be something small and compact that allows them focus their magic through it for quick and powerful destructive effects. Kind of like spellswords but a bit more universal and dependent on what they're using to focus their magic through(or basically what you said about the solid arcane weapons).

Sancre1 votes

I think what you are defining have a name apart from Ahri, but i can't seem to remember it. While i like the idea, i can't help to envision a darkin mage more as a mage with melee weapons, or an artillery mage.

Most of the darkins we know are battle crazed, bloodthirsty warrior, so i wouldnt be surprised if the mage one was actually clad in heavy armor to experience the bloodbath from a closer look, or an artillery mage, to decimate hundreds of enemies from afar while laughting maniacally

RastaBrotha1 votes

Imma have to disagree but you might be on to something

According to Kayns quotes, the Daarkin were imprisoned or sealed away, the weaker ones probably got destroyed. If there were a Darkin that wields demonic magic it would be pretty stupid to seal them into a book (though a sword, scythe and bow aren't really much smarter if the intention were to render them useless)

Personally I would seal a powerful demon mage into a cursed item of some sort, like maybe an ominous brastrap or something and throw it in the Marianna trench.

My guess is that they were all sealed in Orbs and kept secret, and that after some time they reshaped their prison in Objects they enjoyed (like a sword, scythe or bow)

If that were the case, a spellbook wouldn't be too far off.

Sancre1 votes

About how those are made, i have to theories

  1. They are made by corrupting a weapon that the first wielder ties them on, for example, is a darkin charm were to be obtained by someone (in the form of a beautifull red cristal) and a voice that they think that its their subconscious made them decide to tie it to their weapon as a good luck charm, they would corrupt that weapon and later, the host so they take the form that suits that darkin, and over time, while the host body died, the weapon won't, so it will remain as a bait for future warriors searching for a powerful weapon.

  2. they were born like that, the darkin were trapped inside weapons that suited them, in order to use them better as darkin power batteries for war, but they got lost over time

DrCyanide1 votes

Read the Wiki entry for Warmog's Armor, particularly the Lore on the item. I don't know where that originally was posted, but if any item it's likely to be a Darkin that would be my bet.

thecowley1 votes

I like the time dark in idea. A grimmore of sorts. Bending a young sorcerer/es to its will.

Sancre1 votes

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I like the time dark in idea. A grimmore of sorts. Bending a young sorcerer/es to its will.

Not only young ones, but even experienced ones, if darkin can keep the skills of the hosts they parasite (like rhaast keeping kayn's shadow walk and umbral trespass) this one would probably target magicians that posess rare magics, so it would target places like Noxus, where the black rose is right now, full of dark mages with stranger powers, like leblanc, the right now unique hemomancer vlad, or possible diamonds in the rought like taliyah was while she was there

GreenLore1 votes

In general it wouldn't surprise me if a darkin could just be any kind of object.

Sure they are called living weapons,but they are a mysterious race and so it is possible that this is based on false information. After all they originally said that 3 darkins are known to history and these 3 are likely aatrox,Rhaast and the one from Varus,who are all weapons. The nonweapon darkins might be simply rare and managed to hide their existence from the records of history.

Alternatively one could argue that every object with a darkin is a weapon,since it'll grant its user more power.

Sancre1 votes

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In general it wouldn't surprise me if a darkin couldn't just be any kind of object.

Sure they are called living weapons,but they are a mysterious race and so it is possible that this is based on false information. After all they originally said that 3 darkins are known to history and these 3 are likely aatrox,Rhaast and the one from Varus,who are all weapons. The nonweapon darkins might be simply rare and managed to hide their existence from the records of history.

Alternatively one could argue that every object with a darkin is a weapon,since it'll grant its user more power.

As wild as they seem to be, if one weaponless darkin were to exist, i'm not sure if it would go unnoticed, probably would be wrecking havok everywhere until someone could finally seal it somewhere (Pallas' pit maybe?)

Wouldn't an item imbued with a darkin that isn't a weapon be something more akin to a battery of darkin energy? similar to how shushus in Dofus/Wakfu are sealed in a variety of items, but aren't really weapons until they are in some special items like Rubilax the sword, while some powerful items like the ring inhabited by Shadofang can manifest their powers and possess their wielder like any shushu normally can, but not be used like a normal weapon.

GreenLore1 votes

Well like I said,Riot themselves originally claimed that 2 darkins managed to hide from history,so regardless if they are weapons or not,they actually did manage to go unnoticed.

And I doubt that anyone would consider a weaponless darkin a battery. I mean when you play an RPG and find an item that gives you awesome powers,do you say "hey I found a battery!"

Sancre1 votes

Yes, battery wasn't the best term, maybe "Power Conduit" would be more appropriate? The thing is that i'm not sure calling the darkins in general like this is also correct, as they doesn't really give you any power until one takes the other, as an example, Kayn doesn't really get anything out of Rhaast until he goes into shadow assassin or darkin mode, until then Rhaast is just a weapon to use along shadows. But then we also have Varus that while isn't updated as a darkin yet, seems to be getting powers from his darkin without fully turning into one, so maybe is Kayn the oddball in this, as we haven't seen how Aatrox and his host coexisted. So do they really give you any power at all until they have killed you or you to them?

I would like to imagine that this spellbook darkin would also act a bit like varus', by giving a small bit of power to the actual wielder, helping them getting some small desires, and then overtaking them when they start craving for more power out of it.

GreenLore1 votes

Overall I could imagine that either Rhaast or Varus(or both) is more of an oddball when it comes to darkin users.

Both seemingly went and took these weapons fully knowing what it could do to them,so its possible that they made preparations before taking the weapons(before the retcon it was said that Varus has tatoos on his body that slow the corruption,he might still have something like that)

So who knows how it'd turn out if someone used a darkin unknowingly?

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