If Aurelion Sol were to fully break free from Targon…

Tattersall··26 votes·6,887 views

Would there be anything that could stop him from wiping Runeterra off the face of existence? That is, other than Bard and, like, the god of the Void or something.

It seems to me that there are only two groups that would even know enough to try to stop him: Ryze and Targon.

Would World Runes be able to match Sol's power? Would Ryze even be able to use them to their full potential? I doubt it.

The only way Targon would be able to fight Sol would be if they were to create a new weapon. Imagine this: Aurelion Sol arrives to destroy the planet. He is greeted by Pantheon. But this time, Pantheon is ready with the Celestial Dragon-Slaying Demon-Blood True-Ice Hextech Void-Empowered Draven-Blessed Time-manipulating Black-Mist Nagakabouros Telekinetic god-Willow Wuju Mech World-Runed Spirit Chemtech Shadowy Mega Spear Ascended at his side.

But how would such a weapon be made? So yeah, is anything short of Bard and the full power of the Void able to stop Aurelion Sol?
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Mogarl15 votes

Short of Cho'Gath I don't think there is a champion in the game that could even hope to stand up to Aurelion Sol. Targon only put him in chains through trickery. However it's a rather pointless question as Aurelion is largely benevolent. While I'm sure he would wipe Targon off the face of the universe; I don't think he harbours any ill will towards the people and creatures of runeterra.

Of course that doesn't say anything about the other cosmic horrors Aurelion mentions.

Tattersall7 votes

It's not that he wants to destroy Runeterra, it's that he wants to destroy Targon and he really just doesn't care about the lives of the Runeterrans. Now, it's always been vague whether Runeterra is just a part of the Targonian empire or its cradle, but for the sake of the question I'm assuming the latter.

Mogarl14 votes

Reading Aurelion's short story, the way the care he uses to not damage the planet too badly is described makes it hard for me to believe he would destroy any life bearing planet.

In a way looking at how stars give the vast majority of energy used by life on planets, the living things on planets would almost be like grand-children. Even if the planets and life on them aren't important to Aurelion, they're probably important to the stars. which would make them important to Aurelion.

GreenLore6 votes

The thing is that Aurelion doesn't want to blow up Runeterra,because he believes that the key to his freedom lies here(not to mention that,this would have triggered another punishment from Targon). So not blowing up runeterra is in his own interest.

And Aurelion himself says "Planetary life... the insufferable byproduct of dim stars." Showing that he really doesn't care about the life of the people on runeterra

Mogarl1 votes

I think Aurelion is making himself dislike mortals. He talks a lot about learning lessons, and how he has learned his. I think that's mostly him reminding himself not to keep any interest in mortals.

"A celestial dragon is an exotic creature, and as such, Aurelion Sol seldom encountered any equals. As more forms of life emerged to fill the universe, a multitude of primitive eyes gazed up and beheld his work with wonder and breathless pondering. Flattered by this audience of countless worlds, he became fascinated by their fledgling civilizations, who crafted amusingly self-centered philosophies on the nature of his stars."

Deep down I don't think Aurelion dislikes mortals entirely. His disdain for them is something largely fed by his hate for Targon, and much like his will to "drag the very stars from the sky, if he must" and "burn down the cosmos to catch Targon in the flames", I think it's a bluff.

The way mortals appreciate the beauty of stars, even through the limited vision they have of them, means a lot to Aurelion. Him murdering a bunch of mortals would be no different than any other artist murdering someone that appreciated their art(except maybe Jhin ).

Duke Anax1 votes

I don't think Jhin would kill his audience, if he were to find one that is. Or even then, they'd probably appreciate the honor.

He kills his art, not his audience.

Mogarl2 votes

That's why I said maybe. Jhin seems to see people being horrified by his art as appreciating it. I'm actually curious how Jhin would react if someone saw his work and actually thought it was beautiful.

TeCoolMage1 votes

Jhinx OTP

Wait but.. Jaco/Shinx pairing...

And Jhaco..

GreenLore1 votes

The thing is that we can't be sure how far his hatred for Targon runs. He might generalize his disdain of Targon into a disdain for mortals or lesser beings(I mean the targonians don't even seem that mortal to me) in general.

Also you could say that if Aurelion murders some mortals,then it'd be more like an artist who would shoo away potential customers who like his art even though they can't even comprehend it,which would be more understandable (also keep in mind that I'm not saying that Aurelion would go after mortals just to kill them,he would simply try to piss off targon and killing mortals would be just a side effect of that)

Epicurus18 votes

Aurelion Sol certainly isn't malicious, but he's a far cry from benevolent. While he doesn't have a grudge towards the ordinary Runeterrans, they are so insignificant compared to his majesty that he won't care if a few (million) mortals get killed on the sidelines.

HalfTangible2 votes

Runeterra is supposedly the planet where Aurelion Sol was first ensnared by Targon (he describes it as the place where everything started) and he pretty clearly doesn't give a single flying f$#@ about mortals. He barely did when he found the Targonians, and those guys enslaved him.

Fasmodey1 votes

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Runeterra is supposedly the planet where Aurelion Sol was first ensnared by Targon (he describes it as the place where everything started) and he pretty clearly doesn't give a single flying f$#@ about mortals. He barely did when he found the Targonians, and those guys enslaved him.

He says he doesn't give a fuck, much because of his arrogant personality. But in true, I can say without doubt, Aurelion Sol has interest on life and mortals. Half of it comes from feeding his ego though.

Even you can feel it from his quotes.

"Maybe there is more on this planet than I thought, not much, but enough."

If It wasn't interesting to observe mortals at all, he wouldn't look upon Shurima for no reason.

Aurelion Sol is arrogant and one sided, he rarely says what he actually feels because he finds himself above almost anything, so saying "you fragile mortals are more interesting than you think" would hurt his ego.

Tattersall2 votes

Sometimes, while walking on the sidewalk, i look down and see an ant colony. I will occasionally lower myself to the ground and watch as they go about their mundane and, from my perspective, utterly pointless tasks. I watch them for a bit, mildly interested in what they're doing, but that's it. I may think that their tiny, insignificant lives are interesting or funny, but I definitely do not care for them. In time, I get up and walk away. And I promptly forget about them.

That is how I imagine Sol feels about humans.

Aeszarck1 votes

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Short of Cho'Gath I don't think there is a champion in the game that could even hope to stand up to Aurelion Sol. Targon only put him in chains through trickery. However it's a rather pointless question as Aurelion is largely benevolent. While I'm sure he would wipe Targon off the face of the universe; I don't think he harbours any ill will towards the people and creatures of runeterra.

Of course that doesn't say anything about the other cosmic horrors Aurelion mentions.

I think Malphite is way stronger than Cho'Gath. Cho'Gath is pretty big, but he's not mountain-sized. I think Baron Nashor and Rek'Sai are stronger than Cho'Gath too.

Mogarl1 votes

On the contrary, splash-art depicts Cho'Gath and Malphite at very similar sizes. Except Cho'gath grows larger the more he consumes. Malphite and Rek'sai would both be incapable of defeating Aurelion. Cho'Gath swollen from gorging himself upon the magic of Runeterra on the other hand could pose a measure of danger to Aurelion. Little tiny baby Cho would be harmless to Aurelion, but a Cho'gath he would ignore if not for Targon could soon pose a threat to him.

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Melledoneus3 votes

Aurelion finds life fascinating. He only harbors hatred towards Targon, but besides that I'm sure he finds Shurima and other great civilizations adorable and he would descend after a while from time to time to check on them.

Waffletimewarp7 votes

Keep in mind mount tarpon does not equal the tarpon empire. He'd bolt to wherever they are, nuke their civilization, then go on his merry way

DragonShea4 votes

This would be Targon's respons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qexU0zZs3A

Robert Smith2 votes

i lol'd thank you

WolfBV4 votes

Gonna take some guesses here.

Veigar uses the power of dark matter and black holes in his spells, might be useful.

Any void monster in their final form ex. Cho'gath and Kog'maw's dad.

Illaoi 's god maybe. Unsure. Kindred representing death. They wouldn't be inclined to do so.

The demigods made by the Sun Disk: Nasus, Renekton, Azir, Xerath could try.

Nocturne is some kind of dream demon, don't know how powerful a demon is. TahmKench another demon. Shaco depending on who or what s/he really is. Zilean if his time sickness stops afflicting could help.

Those are all of the champs I could really think of.

Lùmen2 votes

Nagakabouros

Thuban1 votes

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Nagakabouros

Aurelion Sol may be aware of what Nagakabouros truly is.

"You do not know your god Illaoi"

Wrathof3002 votes

I doubt he will be able to one-shot them, they are and inter-galactic super roman empire after all. More than likely they could have entire armies of Aspects at the ready. Meaning Aurelion Sol would need some sort of help, but most of his cosmic brethren no longer associate with him. Meaning he would have to wait until Targon in under attack by the Void, then break free and attempt to do as much damage to Targon whilst fighting the voidborn, as they naturally seek to snuff out anything of immense power. Thus making it a 1v1v1 A. Sol v Targon v The Void.

Tattersall1 votes

Yeah, it's just that there was that time in his story when Sol obliterated Pantheon without even trying. I feel like even an army of Aspects wouldn't be able to do anything to Sol unless they didn't have some sort of uber weapon that was specifically designed to fight Sol.

Wrathof3001 votes

If you read the champion insight for the Taric rework. Riot basically said the his gems are 'technically' solidified star light. Imagine if he were to power up, or let's assume that Targon works like the 'soul society if you watched Bleach' where essentially their power is capped while on Runeterra and they are only able to use their full power on Targon. At least my theory is that he would be able to turn AurelionSol's dwarf stars into gems probably not a full fledged star. Also an army of aspects doesn't just have to be an army of all the Pantheons in the universe. We already know of 4 different kinds on Runeterra alone, but again, just my theory of how Targon would defend themselves 'if' they don't have the super-weapon you guys are leaning toward. With regard to the previous Pantheon getting oneshot I have no defense... :( the sad truth is that until Pantheon gets a rework we can only assume his only power is to fight and jump really well.

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

but the original "pantheon" got killed from the sheer shockwave of AurelionSol closing the void rift that was letting void monsters come to earth.

Wrathof3002 votes

The original Pantheon is probably someone of unfathomable power assuming he/she was the one that tricked and captured AurelionSol. The Pantheon we know now are just dead bodies running around with a supernatural cosmic power controlling them. Just pointing out that one mistake. Nonetheless you are correct, she did get oneshot. Oneshotted by an indirect mini-scale fragment of AurelionSol true power.

GreenLore2 votes

Actually we don't know who is responsible for enslaving Aurelion Sol.

Pantheon holds authority over Aurelion,but that doesn't mean that he was the one who enslaved him.

Epicurus1 votes

I daresay that Xerath, if he managed to free himself from his sarcophagus, could give Sol pause. Of course if those two were to fight, Runeterra might just get destroyed as collateral damage.

Another contender is Soraka. We don't really know much about Soraka's standing in the new lore, but she has some connection to Sol, and she's a very benevolent creature, so possibly she could appeal to his better nature.

Thefrostyviking2 votes

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I daresay that Xerath, if he managed to free himself from his sarcophagus, could give Sol pause. Of course if those two were to fight, Runeterra might just get destroyed as collateral damage.

Another contender is Soraka. We don't really know much about Soraka's standing in the new lore, but she has some connection to Sol, and she's a very benevolent creature, so possibly she could appeal to his better nature.

Syndra is mentioned as a transcendent magic user as well altho she's "new" to it so to speak. However when she first unlocked her power the first thing she did was to permanently affix a massive temple and the ground under it in the air to use as her home.

And her ability in game is essentially gravity spheres that she slams ontop of people. That qualifies as kinda scary magic.

Epicurus3 votes

Syndra's overrated in my opinion. I'd say her power level is on par with Ryze Azir Nasus Lissandra, but still a tier below the truly "god-like" Xerath AurelionSol Bard Veigar Chogath.

Syndra certainly has the potential to become one of the Runeterra's most powerful beings, but she's not there yet. And Annie's been performing effortless sorcery from a much younger age, so Syndra's going to have some competition.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

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Syndra's overrated in my opinion. I'd say her power level is on par with Ryze Azir Nasus Lissandra, but still a tier below the truly "god-like" Xerath AurelionSol Bard Veigar Chogath.

Syndra certainly has the potential to become one of the Runeterra's most powerful beings, but she's not there yet. And Annie's been performing effortless sorcery from a much younger age, so Syndra's going to have some competition.

Nasus is currently weak though, there was some story a while back where he was just a bit stronger than Taliyah who is just a "genius" earth mage. He got his ass handed to him by Xerath and Taliyah swept in and made massive dome/shields made out of rock to keep Xerath away while she, nasus and sivir ran away. Naturally Xerath broke the domes down rather quickly but ....well sivir is good at making a run for it and she brings her friends with her.

And i am not really sure where to put Azir, he is a new Ascendant who could raise a city buried in sand and rebuild it in minutes however i am uncertain if he is on par with Xerath because Azir never studied magic so intently as Xerath did. I´d consider Azir more of a charcter in Syndra´s direction of having a ton of power but going more on instinct rather than actual understanding.

And the reason i mentioned Syndra is actually because read a riot post where she was mentioned as a being with the power levels of Xerath but lacking his knowledge and experience. While he uses those two to create grand magic spells and rituals she is the opposite.

Syndra goes completely by instinct, she simply does what she "feels" is the right thing to do, so it really is likely right to say that she is the opposite of Xerath who's magic is based of his time as a scholar and researcher and empowered by his pseudo ascension . However by this i would still name Xerath as stronger "currently" but then if Syndra reached such a level of power that she can be mentioned in the same breath as Xerath by just...being herself i wonder what she´d be if she actually studied or simply practiced her magic more.

Only one that i don't understand really is Veigar , he is supposedly a insane yordle turned dark evil mage however he was also mentioned in the text i read about Xerath, syndra and the other big mages. I don't recall exactly but the text went something like that if Syndra could look past his silly exterior and whack behavior she´d likely be impressed by the actual power hes got.

As for Annie, she definitely has a lot of potential which is also outright stated, i mean, wasn't tibbers some giant demon/elemental bear creature that she just turned into her teddy bear because she didn't have one? She spooked her parents, two arch mages by runteraan standards with this which likely implies that they could not have done that.

oh and Velkoz is a interesting case too, because while he doesn't appear much we gotta consider the fact that he specializes in some rather terrifying magic too. Dimensional magic ( he tears rifts open here and there just to cause damage), matter disintegration which upon effect teaches him everything about that matter and finally he is a math professor. That final one is very damn scary for a mage.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

Oh and in addition to my other rant, you forget one thing about Syndra if we are talking feats too.

She was kinda powerful from a young age however after being picked up by a ...elderly mage and being bought to his temple school to learn magic she noticed her raw magic power weakening after a time.

She went to her teacher to demand a explanation and he explained that he'd sealed her magic and tried to force her to learn control if she wanted him to remove the seal. The teacher was some kind of wise sage or archmage and master of a great temple...and he was scared of the sheer power she had at the time.

What did Syndra do when he confessed? She took her remaining power and tore her teachers magic seal apart while he tried to stop her and it's assumed that he got killed then and there too. She then just after having her power released lifted the entire massive temple into the air and suspended it there while telling the nation that if they had any issue with her doing so they could go screw themselves.

Which means that even after lifting that humongous building into the air and somehow affixing it there permanently she still had the power to potentially challenge a nation because no one said a word in return and they only put her name on the list of "scariest people in the country " right next to Zed.

Which means that not only did she overpower a archmage that had sealed her even with her powers weakened, the moment she got released she did what Azir did altho on a smaller scale without being ascended and she still had the strength to force a nation to leave her be. All that while being a supposedly ordinary mortal girl/woman.

Finally her magic, it in my eyes appear to be some kind of gravity or force magic considering her levitation of herself and her home. Which i think is more impressive than both Lissandra and Azir at least x) I mean, if Syndra went to the Freljord and ran into Lissandra somehow and they got into a fight chances are from my perspective that Syndra would just float into the Air and levitate the entire glacier before starting to tear it into pieces.

And sand is not much of a match against that kinda magic either.

Ryze is more unknown however because he is a archmage that has lived for what appears to be more than a thousand years. And he spent the entire time studying and improving his magic while also tampering with the "runes" that are the literally magic cornerstones of the world itself. I honestly don't know where to put him. If he were to fight Syndra he might just figure out how her magic works and disarm it right then and there which would leave her in a very sorry state.

Stars Shaper1 votes

I don't think Aurelion Sol would care about destroying Runeterra, he actually has reason to keep it intact because he doesn't like mindless destruction (see in "Twin Dawns" where he refuses to use his full power to destroy the void Rift because it owuld wipe the planet).

That being said, free of Targon influence he would storm their empire easily wiping them out.

GreenLore2 votes

He didn't destroy the planet because the targonians would have punished him for that and he believes the key to his freedom lies on runeterra,so not blowing up the planet is in his own interest.

And he also has the quote: "I would burn the cosmos to catch Targon in the flames." So if he could hurt Targon by destroying Runeterra,he would certainly do it.

Stars Shaper3 votes

He did kill the Pantheon anyway xD

The thing is, he has no reasons to destroy Runeterra but he wouldn't care to save it from collateral damage.

Godlike beings are by definition above our definition of ethic and moral, they are not evil nor saints, they pursue their priorities and usually have a wider definition of "love", Aurelion Sol demonstrate it in a lot of his quotes and he had some kind of distant parental love towards Targonians too before they decided to put him under control.

GreenLore2 votes

Yes he did kill Pantheon,but he also lost a sun for that. If he had wiped out Runeterra as a whole he would have likely lost several suns(and like I said,Aurelion himself thinks that Runeterra can help him)

And in general I didn't say Aurelion is evil or good(I'd say he is mostly neutral from our perspective),but he is extremely spiteful of targon and will likely do everything in his might to bring them down. If destroying Runeterra is going to harm Targon or piss them off,then he'll do it.

He also didn't really feel love towards the targonians,he was simply bored and thought it might be fun to hang out with some lesser beings for a while. In general I'd say that Aurelion sol reminds me quite a bit of the greek gods in terms of personality(though less of a jerk than most of them),who almost all acted rather human and kinda smug(even though sol isn't a god himself)

macromite1 votes

he believes the key to his freedom lies on runeterra

we are saying what he would do after he was free. why in fuck would he care about obtaining his own freedom when he is already free.

GreenLore1 votes

Stars shaper argued that Aurelion wouldn't destroy Runeterra based on the fact that he didn't do it in his short-story in which he is already enslaved. But thats the thing,in that story he didn't destroy the planet BECAUSE he is still enslaved in it.

So his short story is no indication of what he'd do once he got free.

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

AurelionSol is not an evil dragon if he does destroy the world its most likely by accident.Honestly it would be better if AurelionSol was unbound because his very presence attracts the attention from the void.i have a sneaking suspicion that Chogath is the void monster he felt gazing at him from the other side of the rift in his lore.AurelionSol legit says that the void creatures want to extinguish his light.

Tattersall1 votes

Aurelion Sol isn't evil, but he hates Targon so much that he

"would burn the cosmos to catch Targon in the flames."

On the other topic, I think that Cho'Gath is the most powerful Voidling, but I seriously doubt he's the one calling the shots. It's possible that the being that commands Cho'Gath is none other than the Void itself, as Riot has hinted that the Void is alive.

CasterGilgamesh2 votes

idk about riot but in my head canon the void itself is an entity that is so massive it can't possibly stay awake but creator help us all if it awakens.the void is a place were physical existence is not possible all things in the void are just energy once they come to our universe (the league's universe) they gain a physical form.the lesser creatures still require whatever twisted energy exist to fuel their existence thus they die or grow weaker if the portal gets destroyed or fades.i would like to think the void is like the "demon" world from the series "The Bartimus trilogy" it's truly the definition of chaos that's why most people go insane from looking into the void.Those who don't grow in magical power and knowledge.

Tattersall1 votes

Ayyy I read those books.

Anyway, my theory is that the Void is kind of like Bard. Bard is a Celestial Spirit, but he's also above Aurelion Sol in the way that he can hop between dimension at will, while Aurelion operates _Sol_ely (heh) in this dimension.

So I think that the Void is a sentient being, but a being so massive and powerful that it is its own dimension. It's like Greek mythology. In ancient Greek myths, the gods were created by the titans, but the titans were created by these primordial beings that represented fundamental parts of existence. Some of these beings include Earth, Sky, and Time.

Another of these beings was Tartarus. Tartarus is the deepest part of the underworld, as far below the underworld as earth is below heaven. But Tartarus was also an entity that had a will and stuff.

So yeah, I think that the Void is a sentient plane of existence with an insatiable desire to consume other planes of existence and bring them into itself. My theory also says that the Void doesn't directly create Voidlings, they just spawn out of the Void's essence naturally. They aren't directly controlled, but the Void can point them in certain directions. Cho'Gath is one of those very powerful Voidling that can speak and take direct commands from the Void.

Also, I've learned my lesson about how no one can tell what your tone is from text, so I feel like I need to say that I'm not telling you "your theory is bad, mine is better." I just get excited when discussing the Void.

CasterGilgamesh2 votes

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Also, I've learned my lesson about how no one can tell what your tone is from text, so I feel like I need to say that I'm not telling you "your theory is bad, mine is better." I just get excited when discussing the Void.

I'm also just excited I understand I like your theory it would make sense.i wouldn't how Bard Soraka have any connection to this i wonder what your opinions would be on them.I think Soraka is legit just the manifestation of starlight given shape from all those who pray to the stars she is a goddess like Janna created from the wishes of man kind and the is fueled by both man kinda and the stars themselves.I have no idea what bard is though.Also, I wonder with your theory what entity counters the void if any i doubt even AurelionSol could since he simply creates stars he never actually created the existence of the universe itself.

"Ayyy I read those books." I loved the story wasn't much of a fan of the main pairing I loved Nathaniel AKA Mandrake or whatever he changed his name to.I absolutely loved Kity and Bartimus himself.I also read Solomons ring which is in the same universe and has Bartimus in it.

Tattersall1 votes

The way the characters changed was great. Specifically Nathaniel. Like, in the beginning, he was just an ambitious kid, but in the middle he had grown into your typical arrogant selfish wizard. But then by the end of the last book… man, that ending was beautiful.

This anomalous fissure in the universe entrances me. This is not the first of its kind I’ve had to deal with, but this one feels different, and I can’t help but admire the marvelously terrifying manipulation of the barriers between realms. Few beings could fathom its complexities, let alone possess the sheer magnitude of power needed to rend the fabric of existence. In my heart, I know a wound so exquisite could never be orchestrated by scuttling creatures. No. There must be more behind this intrusion. I shudder at the thought of what kind of entity is capable of inducing such a volatile rift.

-Aurelion Sol, Twin Dawns The Void don't play, mother f [asterisks] ers.

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

that part gave me chills

Lùmen1 votes

What of the Void's will or "face"? Is Chogath a manifestation of the Void's will or something like that?

SociopathFriend1 votes

I'm curious- several comments mention Cho'Gath- did I miss something? The Void creatures all seemed fairly scary but none of them were planetary threats like Aurelion for example- unless I missed something about Cho's lore...

Tattersall1 votes

Aurelion Sol is a godlike being in our dimension, but the Void is a completely different dimension. Presumably, there are creatures in the Void that could rival or even outpace Aurelion Sol's power.

This anomalous fissure in the universe entrances me. This is not the first of its kind I’ve had to deal with, but this one feels different, and I can’t help but admire the marvelously terrifying manipulation of the barriers between realms. Few beings could fathom its complexities, let alone possess the sheer magnitude of power needed to rend the fabric of existence. In my heart, I know a wound so exquisite could never be orchestrated by scuttling creatures. No. There must be more behind this intrusion. I shudder at the thought of what kind of entity is capable of inducing such a volatile rift.

-Aurelion Sol, Twin Dawns Cho'Gath is widely considered to be the most powerful Void creature. I believe that he is merely the highest ranking Voidling currently on Runeterra, but some speculate that he's actually the head honcho, the one controlling the Void incursions.

SociopathFriend1 votes

Boy, I'd never have thought Cho'Gath was in charge over, say, Vel'Koz. A void creature sure, but not the void creature.

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