@Riot and fans, Fewer city-states in the new lore of Runeterra

Tesla Effect··5 votes·2,326 views

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20150129125903/leagueoflegends/images/1/1c/Demacia_Castle.jpg I had came across some interesting information during my time editing faction pages on the wikipedia. In RekSai lore (Scourge of the desert) a Noxian citizen traveling in Shurima mentioned his nation as an "Empire". This may indicate that Noxus is now "The Empire of Noxus". He also mentioned that there is a Noxian Capital indicating there are more than one city in that nation and that the city we all thought was Noxus was actually just its capital(Quinn her lore indicates that there are more than one settlement in Demacia as well). All of this leads to the fact that some previously city-state nations are now considered countries in the new canon.

Countries: Bilgewater (since the 2014 Harrowing, it was stated that Bilgewater had more settlements in its control) Empire of Noxus (Reasons were stated above) Empire of Shurima (Disputed since Azirs resurrection of the Empire is not well know in all of Shurima) Ionia (Pretty straightforward, since it has a lot more settlements than just one city) Kingdom of Demacia (They have a King, which makes it a Kingdom, pretty straightforward as well) Kingdom of Freljord (Disputed since the Civil War) Yordle Lands (Bandle City being their capital)

City-States: Piltover (same as Bandle city) Zaun (same Reasons)

No main recognized governments: Mount Targon (several tribes, non of which clearly represents this place) Shadow Isles (we really dont know if they have a leader or if they have rule similar to the living nations)

My question for this is, what are the full names of all the nations besides the ones we know like Noxus, Shurima, Demacia, Freljord? And would Piltover, Zaun and Bandle City be located inside some of the mentioned countries? Why do they have such political freedom next to such large nations? Is Bilgewater called Bilgewater Union and Ionia called Ionian Eldership?

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Ebonmaw Dragon6 votes

Well, the City States have been always been a part, and capital, of the "Factions".

Even in the old lore, they mentioned that other cities, towns and villages exist at Valoran, Kalamanda is only 1 example. There are more villages and towns around the city states (Bandle City is the "capital" of the Yordle Land. The leader of Bandle City is the Mayor Jadefellow... which means that there are more mayors in smaller towns of the Yordle Land (those towns are actually mentioned in the old lore, but not the names)... which means that the yordles have a democratic government, therefore a President).

Tesla Effect2 votes

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Well, the City States have been always been a part, and capital, of the "Factions".

Even in the old lore, they mentioned that other cities, towns and villages exist at Valoran, Kalamanda is only 1 example. There are more villages and towns around the city states (Bandle City is the "capital" of the Yordle Land. The leader of Bandle City is the Mayor Jadefellow... which means that there are more mayors in smaller towns of the Yordle Land (those towns are actually mentioned in the old lore, but not the names)... which means that the yordles have a democratic government, therefore a President).

There were other cities and villages in the old lore but they were never stated to be a part of any faction. Its highly unlikely for an entire continent to have vast areas unclaimed by ether of the stronger factions. Why I assume is that Noxus controls large areas of the eastern and southern parts of Valoran (Shurima was kinda part of it as well) and Demacia controls the Western and northern parts. We have few factions in between those two power houses like Freljord, Yordle Lands and now Shurima. But mainly Demacia and Noxus control Valoran (I can see them making alliances with many territories sorta like what humans did during the Cold War).

So Yordles have a country as well. Thanks, Ill make sure to update it accordingly.

GenoXx4 votes

"Shadow Isles (we really dont know if they have a leader or if they have rule similar to the living nations)" -West Treeline Altar"For the king"

But seriously, Bilgewater would definitely be a union. Back the the olden days, place inhabited by pirates we're often called unions. Such as when they even claimed some islands for their own in hopes to make a settlement or even a city known today. So i'd say it was a union.

I picture Ionia as feudal Japan or Ancient china. Navori, Galrin, and Shon Xon. It's prettey much like a mini Asia. It's Actually my favorite place. Ionia is pretty fleshed out though. It has landmarks and places. I would want to hear more about the cities and locations of Noxus and Demacia. Old Noxus is one place mentioned in Sion's promo. There's many houses in Demacia, would those said house have some authority over some places? Also since its clear Noxus is an Empire I wonder wat other places is under Noxus's rule?.

Theres also places like the Kumugu and Plague Jungles. Maybe theres a hidden civilization kinda like Aztec style? I know GreenLore likes that idea. Following the Retcon Nid could hint that very idea.

Edit: Btw Telsa, I'm sure your work on the wikia won't go unnoticed. I see the changes you made and nice LoL trailer too

Tesla Effect1 votes

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"Shadow Isles (we really dont know if they have a leader or if they have rule similar to the living nations)" -West Treeline Altar"For the king"

They can mean it in the past tense since the nation that eventually became the Shadow Isles had a King item 3153 . Now we just dont know if he is still alive/Undead and governing the entire Burning Legion.

Lost R1 votes

The Ruined King was explicitly mentioned somewhere as the king of the Shadow Isles before it became known as the Shadow Isles (and before he became known as the Ruined King).

Tesla Effect1 votes

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The Ruined King was explicitly mentioned somewhere as the king of the Shadow Isles before it became known as the Shadow Isles (and before he became known as the Ruined King).

We know that but we still dont know how its governed now, also it doesnt have any political relations with the other nations nor will it ever be diplomatically introduced to them, so that may also tie into the unrecognized governments. A nation needs to be know and recognize it as a nation/country by all in that world, otherwise it can call itself whatever it wants but it wont be considered as the previously mentioned thing.

Lost R1 votes

It's probably not run by a government at all, or at least not anymore.

I feel like I've heard this story before. The king fears his mortality, has his brightest wizards and alchemists find a way to prevent him from dying. The project ends in catastrophe, and the borders between life and death are torn asunder. Now everything on the Shadow Isles are neither truly alive, nor truly dead. It's a blight of death and chaos. Half of this is already explicitly true in Maokai's new lore.

Tesla Effect1 votes

Kalista said otherwise, she said he was struck by grief (probably someone very close to him died) and that may have been the reason why he turned to necromancy. Obviously it didnt work or somebody made it so it wont work. But nobody of the current residence of the Shadow Isles state that there is a "Lich King" commanding them.

And as you perfectly stated, "It's a blight of death and chaos.".

Lost R1 votes

The common thread is still that someone tried to cheat death, and it went horribly wrong.

GenoXx2 votes

Karthus "Remember who you truly serve Hecarim." I believe the king is undead and calling shots still. THis is also probably why he is now known as "the Ruined king." A shattered crown constellation just for him also. I believe this man is still up and able, just dead

Jeddy0174 votes

God,I would love an updated map of Runeterra.

Tesla Effect1 votes

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God,I would love an updated map of Runeterra.

Wouldnt we all. Then I could finally piece together whats new and still relevant in the new canon.

Lost R1 votes

Have you heard of the Inland Empire? It's a metropolitan area just east of Los Angeles and is about thousand times the size of Manhattan and six times larger than the Los Angeles area in terms of square mileage. It's composed of ten different cities: Riverside, San Bernardino, Fontana, Moreno Valley, Rancho Cucamonga, Ontario, Corona, Victorville, Murietta, and Temecula. It's also the thirteenth most populous region in the US and the third most populous in California. No one I've met who hasn't lived in California themselves at one time or another has ever heard of the Inland Empire, and for shorthand reference for people out of state, you'd just say you live in the Los Angeles area (it's about an hour or two drive to LA, traffic willing). To compound on this, I live in a town that isn't even one of the listed cities up there (and for security reasons, I can't tell you), yet neighbors them and is technically part of the Inland Empire.

When you're dealing with fiction, you have to remember that fictional cities and hubs are going to be boiled down to the Theme Park Version. It's not a negative trope in and of itself. A normal, sane writer is not going to go into the intricacies about how expansive the country's territory is and all the various names for the sectors (unless the story is focused in that area). You just have to remind yourself that those outside territories do exist, even if they're not explicitly mentioned/denied. It's easier to give the reader the Theme Park Version.

Tesla Effect1 votes

But then again why would they be called City-states in the first place if they nations have more than one city in it and have large territories that they control. Its like calling France a city-state, even though it has its own Capital and other cities, villages and territories.

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