An estimate of Sion's damage potential

Glory ln Death··26 votes·2,463 views

Here is an estimate of what Sion's ult can do in real life:

Math has been left out because I already had to remake this post once, and I'm too lazy to do it all again.

* Sion's base speed is 2.76 m/s
* Sion's max ult speed is 7.6 m/s (27.36 km/h or almost exactly 17 mph)
* Assuming constant acceleration to max speed over 4 seconds, Sion will travel 51.12 meters during his ult (if uninterrupted)
* If Sion were to compete in the 100 meter dash, he would finish in 14.43 seconds (an average time for an adult male is 15-20 seconds - without armor and weapons, and having two good feet)

Now, for the real meat:

* Based on some research around heavyweight boxers (seems appropriate to find Sion-like individuals), an appropriate weight for Sion (without armor) can be estimated around 110 kg (just over 240 lbs)
* His armor is not a full suit, but is considerably thicker than that of a normal medieval knight's. Add in his metal boot/stub and his soul furnace, and we can assume his armor weighs roughly the same as a knight's - about 20 kg or 45 lbs.
* His axe is ridiculously large. The largest I could find with a weight had a head of 1.5 ft across weighing 10 lbs. Tiny. Based on the size of Sion's axe, I will assume it weighs approximately the same as his armor.
* Therefore, Sion's total weight with armor is estimated as 150 kg or 330 lbs
* We can now calculate the force of impact from Sion's full speed ult (estimating a 0.2 second stopping time) as 5700 Newtons. This would feel as though something weighing 581 kg (1281 lbs) was sitting on you.

Conclusion: Ouch.

31 Comments

Skelenth28 votes

And it doesn't even deal that much damage.

If I just knew how high Pantheon was jumping...

Pale Pirate1 votes

I think we could actually calculate that based on the size of the explosion?

Skelenth1 votes

Or the speed of his take-off

Varus Vindicator1 votes

or just assume terminal velocity?

Shadòw12 votes

You had too much free time didn't you

Glory ln Death7 votes

...maybe.

KING OF MASKS5 votes

I've always gotten the impression that Sion is actually much larger than your average human. A real colossus, y'know.

Ralanr2 votes

He's actually bigger than he was when alive.

Varus Vindicator1 votes

I'd think he'd weigh 300+ without all the metal.

Dynikus3 votes

15-20 seconds sounds absurdly slow for an average adult male's 100m.

TurquoiseYoshi9 votes

When you consider that the fastest people in the world barely beat 10 seconds, it's really not that implausible.

dragon1xx2 votes

However, Sion is also heavier, so it should be roughly 20-25, since he doesn't really have a proper body that isn't disfigured....

Shynkle1 votes

No, that part was deduced from the math of his ingame speed. That wasn't an estimate.

Dynikus2 votes

15-20 seconds is still really, really slow. When I first started doing track and field in hichschool I wasn't in great shape, and I could still do 100m in the 13s.

Dr Poro5 votes

But when 30% of your population is obese... It really weighs down the average.

Varus Vindicator4 votes

"weighs" i see what you did there.

Golden Tager X3 votes

Actually his axe is probably heavier, people made a Darius axe sized properly and it weighed 316 pounds, Sion has a bigger axe.

It Hertz When IP1 votes

Depends on the material used in construction, too.

Glory ln Death2 votes

Well, a revised look at the math would look like this:

  • 316 lbs = 143 kg
  • Total weight = 273 kg
  • Force = mass*(velocity/time) or Force = 273*(7.6/0.2)
  • Force = 10,374 Newtons

This is the equivalent of 1057 kg or 2330 lbs.

Vistha Kai1 votes

Sion's axe may be larger, but it also has a wooden handle.

Darius' axe is a single chunk of steel.

Regu1us 92 votes

I think Sion is a LOT bigger than 240lb. In these crude size comparisons (taken from Lolking model viewer at default zoom) you can see that Sion is really tall and wide, much larger than what I would expect a heavyweight boxer to look like compared to Ahri. I have no math, but it seems like you could add some to that weight.

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

How does anyone survive these ults again? O_O

Meep Man2 votes

Veigar

If the name stays true, Veigar's ultimate would delete the map and everyone on Runeterra instantly.

dragon1xx2 votes

So, basically, your abilities get nerfed/buffed on the Rift, and so do your resistances.

Glory ln Death1 votes

Everything gets equalized on the Rift - Malphite should be the size of a mountain, and apparently Cho'Gath should be the size of a planet.

Ralanr1 votes

First I've heard of Cho being that big.

Meep Man1 votes

Well, Cho'Gath currently in the lore. The Cho'Gath we see on the Rift is Cho'Gath at the beginning of his "cycle" of growth. In the lore, Cho'Gath has no limit to his size that has been mentioned, so his size in lore is as big as the number of invasions he has participated in have allowed (through eating his victims).

Pale Pirate1 votes

Sion would also probably die, with his target possibly stuck on him as one object.

tacofacefart1 votes

what is dead may never die.

Meep Man1 votes

While in-game this of course is limited, I think resurrected Sion would have to be chopped up, vaporized, or burned to ash to be completely killed. Sion's soul has been twisted and anchored to his body so he technically cannot die until his anchor (aka his body) is COMPLETELY destroyed.

tacofacefart1 votes

zillian and ekko run through time. so they go faster than the speed of light.

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