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RiotRiotJaredan17 votes

Damn, Sharjo, you're fast!

Oysteroth4 votes

So can you re enable gangplank now or are you going to make us wait even longer? I'm sorry, but this doesn't make me happy. I know you're expecting everyone to be like, "Wow Riot this is so cool!" but I just want to play my favorite champion again, and I don't want to wait anymore. I was super excited about this event but now I'm just tired, jaded and I want it to end already.

Archenz22 votes

Hey I like this event and your an ungrateful asshole.

They made the VU TWICE. There giving us a free skin. They gave us lore, something we begged for.

And people like you are still complaining, if you don't like it go play Dota or something.

P.S. Even if this event wasn't happening GP would still be disabled due to the infinite draven stacks bug. So please go away

Oysteroth7 votes

Alright look dude. I'm going to be 100% honest here. I do not care about the lore at all at this point. The lore has always been something mildly interesting that I read once or twice while waiting for a game to start. It's just not something that interests me. I'm complaining because something that does interest me, gameplay, was taken from me so that another group of people can have what they want. The lore did not require gangplank being disabled because they've established that the lore and league have been separated entirely. They disabled gangplank to make a few people feel good about lore, while ignoring the people who enjoy playing as him. I don't care about the new default gp because I already own skins for him. I don't care that they're hyping him up in the lore. What I do care about is that I've had my game play experience detracted from because people whined that the lore was disconnected from the game, so Riot did something incredibly stupid to show that they suddenly want the lore to be part of the game.

Archenz15 votes

That's all very nice. You don't like the lore, well to each his own. However, Riot never stated that League and Lore were separated. In fact, I'm very excited for the incoming Graves VU. In which he might very well get a new gun when he gets to piltover.

That aside. Your complaining that Riot disabled a champion from their game and that was totally unfair to you and the other few people who can't live for a week without the Gangplank.

Well I'm going to be 100% honest with you, I don't care for anyone who complains because one champion out of 126 being disabled. Don't be selfish. The people who never get lore, got an amazing event and lots of happy lore. So take a chill pill, go watch some game of thrones and wait till Gangplank is back on Tuesday - Thursday.

And hey, play another champion, it's fine you love Gangplank, but I can promise you, he will be back.

Who knows, maybe the next champion to be disabled is my main Skarner. Will I be salty? No, I'll just play some other champ for a bit.

Oysteroth2 votes

Why is it, that in order for their to be lore, gameplay has to be sacrificed? Gameplay and lore are not mutually exclusive to each other. In fact, they are meant to enhance each other. That's why people got upset when they retconned the league of legends and made it so that your battles mean nothing. They told us that what happens in the world doesn't matter in the game, and that what happens in the game doesn't matter in the lore. I thought that was pretty dumb, and I don't even care about the lore.

You can have a cool event for the people who care, and you can have a stable game where the people who like playing the game can do that. Why can you only have one or the other? You guys are praising riot for integrating the lore into the game, but they've done it in an extremely irritating way.

Yes, I really only wanted to play gangplank this week. I only played when friends asked and to get the event icon. I'm not upset enough to quit playing the game, and I'm not upset enough to stop being a customer. I know he'll be back. I admit, for a moment at the beginning of the event, they almost had me interested in the lore. The story was interesting enough, and the world they were building was pretty cool. Then they killed gangplank and I was like, meh, he'll come back. Then they disabled him and I no longer cared about the lore at all.

I understand there are a lot of champions. I own a hefty number of them. There is a reason I have played more games as gangplank than the other champions. I love playing as gangplank more than the other ones. I get less enjoyment out of the game when not playing as him, and I get really frustrated when people act like the event has gone perfectly when there are people out there that are genuinely upset and ignored.

Archenz2 votes

Well look at it this way.

You dont get to play Gangplank for 1-2 weeks.

Well since the last Skarner rework, i basically didnt get to play the real Skarner, since the current Skarner is really just a gutted version of the old. So yea, you dont get to play for 1-2 weeks, I didnt get to play for around a year the champion I love.

Just trying to make you feel better.

And hey, I promise Gangplank will never be "killed" again and disabled. (maybe)

The Whamboozler2 votes

^ This. People whining about GP being disabled for a little bit, as if the new GP had even been out for long enough to pick up a super die-hard fanbase. Be happy he still exists and is getting a lot of love right now. Skarner was deleted from the game. Cassiopeia was deleted from the game. Soon Fiora will be deleted from the game. Oh, there will still be chaps with those names out there, but they're not the champs that their players loved.

Your champ is still in the game and you're getting a free skin for him. Shut up and play someone else for a few days and stop being so self-entitled.

Sharjo6 votes

In fact, I'm very excited for the incoming Graves VU. In which he might very well get a new gun when he gets to piltover.

I want this, kinda badly actually.

Archenz3 votes

yeeeee boi. In before his q is a shock pellets instead of bullets, and his r is like jayce empowered q :D

I really like champions changing and "upgrading" not just staying stale.

The best kind of lore is the lore that changes the game :D

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

Disabling him for a bug is fine, trying to play it off as only or primarily a lore reason has people upset. If it were your favorite champion, I doubt that you'd be happy beyond a day or two.

Archenz2 votes

I would be happy if I got a free skin and a great VU for skarner

Remlap12232 votes

He's bugged.

Oysteroth1 votes

You are wrong

Archenz4 votes

He is technically bugged as well, although not the reason for his being dead. However even if he wasn't dead he would be disabled due to a bug. So no matter what, you were still not gonna play gangplank this week :P

Oysteroth2 votes

They knew about the draven interaction before. They specifically said that it wasn't disable worthy.

Sharjo3 votes

I'm a master of traditional Ju-Jitsu! (I actually am, got my Ni-dan and everything) You cannot compare to my skills!

Sythriel Draken5 votes

I really hope that him and MF have some new taunts towards each other.. GP- "Only Fools Favor Fortune" eats an orange

Remlap12232 votes

How about instead, you make Captain Fortune her classic skin, her classic skin her traditional one for free if you played MF during Burning Tides, and give her new VOs.

SlackerboyTC2 votes

Looks like im gonna have to farm ip for him Q_Q

Xulsigae2 votes

So how does this end? Is Bilgewater in perpetual civil war or chaos now?

RiotRiotJaredan4 votes

It's currently in the midst of an exploding gang war. That won't be permanent though, these things have a habit of working themselves out. Bloodily.

Xulsigae1 votes

Sure, but when will it end officially? Will there be a follow up story to say what happened? If so, what will the in story time frame be? Will the war be a brief one, just a few days? Or will it be years? What will the long term consequences of this be? Currently it's left up in the air like so many stories put out before.

RiotRiotJaredan6 votes

We're not going to explain what happens in advance through a short overview. We're going to tell those stories. The difference to the past is that we're actually going to. We know we've not followed through with things in the past. We want to change that. I'm very passionate on this point.

ExecutorDill2 votes

{quoted}

We're not going to explain what happens in advance through a short overview. We're going to tell those stories. The difference to the past is that we're actually going to. We know we've not followed through with things in the past. We want to change that. I'm very passionate on this point.

Good :). I would really like to see a follow up on these two: Shen Zed

Xulsigae5 votes

I'll hold you to that.

Though, why not end the story in the actual event? Why leave it up in the air for now?

Jingerbeardman2 votes

because then you cant make another event/story to follow it up with.

Xulsigae1 votes

Why can't you? Story arcs and events end all the time in fiction with plenty more stories to go off of. 'Dang,I finished writing the Hobbit. Guess I can't do anything more with the ring he found.' It doesn't work like that.

RiotRiotJaredan3 votes

The Reckoning is one story. It's different to the next story, which will be quite involved and will need its own time to breathe and develop.

Xulsigae1 votes

I'm not sure I understand why that matters to the current event and not ending it before moving on to the next. I'm not trying to be obtuse, just curious.

RiotRiotJaredan3 votes

Consider it like an episode of television. Yes, you could do the entire season in one go, but it's usually best to let each episode, each story, speak for itself while generating longer arcs that will pay off across the season. Also, we'd have needed a lot more time and resources to do it all in one shot and we likely wouldn't have hit the deadlines for many other teams.

To speak to your Hobbit example, Tolkien didn't get the Lord of the Rings published until 17 years later.

Xulsigae1 votes

Oh I know he didn't. My point to the other forum member was that merely because a story/event has ended, that doesn't end any further stories that can be affected by it. The Hobbit was a complete story that had drastic effects on the future of Middle Earth. Tolkien didn't leave the ending ambiguous and put the final chapter in the Silmarillion.

Isn't that what happens anyway in most shows? Unless they are episodic of course, which isn't always a bad thing. Many episodes are complete stories in their own time slot but with ramifications for further episodes and bigger, season or even entire show long events.

AugustoTDR2 votes

My, buddy, my friend, the thing is that Runeterra is a whole world. They will make different events and this events will be episodic.

So, for example, maybe in 5.16 we will get Shadow Isles, and maybe in 5.18 we Piltover and Vi or Ez will mention how things are fairing in Bilgewater and then bam 5.20 will close the event. Or they will release a comic or something without in game big events.

Riot is definitely stepping their lore game, this is obvious. So have some faith, my friend.

Tesla Effect2 votes

{quoted}

Consider it like an episode of television. Yes, you could do the entire season in one go, but it's usually best to let each episode, each story, speak for itself while generating longer arcs that will pay off across the season. Also, we'd have needed a lot more time and resources to do it all in one shot and we likely wouldn't have hit the deadlines for many other teams.

To speak to your Hobbit example, Tolkien didn't get the Lord of the Rings published until 17 years later.

Well yes, but lets not use the 17 year thing for an example. I mean Lol May live for that long, but lets not wait that long for the continuation of the Bilgewater arc. --u0

OuttaControl562 votes

Or, you can add the lore in increments and not just snort it all at once.

....The JoJ wasn't all published in one day, ya dig?

Azler2 votes

{quoted}

We're not going to explain what happens in advance through a short overview. We're going to tell those stories. The difference to the past is that we're actually going to. We know we've not followed through with things in the past. We want to change that. I'm very passionate on this point.

Can we at least get a confirmation of if Captain MF is canon or not? Like, is the skin what she looked like in the past or what she looks like now that she think she's killed GP? Or is it not canon and set in a universe where she did conquer all of Bilgwater? I've even heard theories that it's an alternate reality of her becoming a pirate and giving up being a bounty hunter (Hence the "Captain" title). I just wanna know what's the real deal x.x

Also, can we get information on where GP got his robotic arm? o.o Was it made in Piltover or Zaun?

RiotRiotJaredan5 votes

Personally, I've always envisioned that skin as how Sarah Fortune looked as she's talking to Rafen in Act 3. She would be on the Syren, hence the rocking of the lamp in the log-in screen.

I can't talk to the origin of Gangplank's arm yet.

Azler2 votes

{quoted}

Personally, I've always envisioned that skin as how Sarah Fortune looked as she's talking to Rafen in Act 3. She would be on the Syren, hence the rocking of the lamp in the log-in screen.

I can't talk to the origin of Gangplank's arm yet.

Thank you~

Jingerbeardman2 votes

I am happy to hear this. I am however forced to take this with hesitance. It is not that I do not believe you when you say you wish to continue the story. I am hesitant at how long it is going to take for the next chapter in the story to be revealed. While the closure point in this arc is excellent (we can all comprehend that with everything that has happened it is going to take a bit of time for the chaos to settle and for gangplank to recuperate his body and plan his next move). with that being said though, it is in no way complete.

It is important to not wait to long before the next arc of this story is played out.

ZweiKnight1 votes

Soooo...wait. Are they gonna re-enable him before the 10th so we can get our match in or are we screwed if we didn't play a PVP match with him before he "died"? :(

RiotRiotJaredan10 votes

He'll be back before the 10th.

ZweiKnight1 votes

{quoted}

He'll be back before the 10th.

Oh nice! Thanks for the reply! Cheers :)

Keagn5 votes

How soon before the 10th? I realize his injuries were severe, but I have yet to have had a chance to play my citrus loving pirate amigo.

ULTRAF0RCE1 votes

when the new patch comes

Sharjo3 votes

Presumably tuesday at the earliest, thursday at the latest, based on patch timings. So you'll still have the weekend to get a game in.

Archenz2 votes

Exactly correct. The most accurate estimate would be around Wednesday tbh when the new patch rolls out.

Sharjo2 votes

Wednesday is usually patch day for most places in the world, so yeah, go by Archenz's word. Patches have come out early and late before, but Wednesday is your best bet.

Ancestor0071 votes

Does that game have to be a win? Or just play a game and u get the skin regardless of the outcome?And also, what if we don't have gp unlocked?

Archenz1 votes

Jaredan, will we get other champion reworks like Gangplanks? Like the upcoming graves new shotgun? Were you upgrade the champs according to the lore?

Because that's AWESOME.

Please answer! :D

GenoXx1 votes

MF is so dead.

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