Why Tahm is perfect lore wise and why blitz needs an update

marpatt11··6 votes·771 views

So I main Blitzcrank , I love Blitzcrank to death, but im not saying he needs a rework. In fact there is a simple solution to what im about to talk about. There is a huge gap between Blitzcrank and his lore but to emphasize this I am going to talk about TahmKench first, TahmKench in his lore is a sly-talking, back stabbing, mischievous demon. In game he is his lore, he can save you, give you everything you want or he can spit you under tower/tp you into fountain, HE IS HIS LORE, to a T in fact.

Now lets look at Blitzcrank, in his lore he is a golem made from parts of other golems by viktor, he eventually upgrades himself and wants to help the people of zaun, he actually (if I recall correctly) saved a girl from a burning building. He probably is the closest zaun will get to a savior, at least in lore. In game however is a killing machine, chasing you down, grabbing you, literally all he does is kill, his VO makes even less sense once you read his lore, taunt "THE TIME OF MAN HAS COME TO AN END" wait, what? aren't you supposed to be trying to save zaun, I mean come on he doesn't even have interactions with viktor at all, not even a taunt. with other quotes such as "QUAKE IN FEAR, FLESHLING" and "EXTERMINATE. EXTERMINATE" makes no sense at all.

But about how to fix this. Riot doesn't need to change the VO, or the lore, or anything except one change, have his Q be able to hit teammates. Thats it, thats all it takes to fix Blitzcrank to match his lore, at least in the tiniest possible way. there are a couple ways that this could be done but if you guys want to see that, tell me.

Anyways I just really want his lore, VO, and gameplay to all work, such as TahmKench, Urgot or new Evelynn .

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Sif003 votes

so you suggesting Riot implements a major change to an iconic champion and u call it : "that's all it take to fix blitz".

Dude u do understand having grab hit teammates changes the entire dynamic and identity of the champ right? not to mention what bad hooks will do to tf from now on, or how hard a trolling blitz can affect his teammates.

I am sorry dude, I am a blitz fan myself, but what you want from them would be game changing in a worse way in my opinion.

marpatt111 votes

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so you suggesting Riot implements a major change to an iconic champion and u call it : "that's all it take to fix blitz".

Dude u do understand having grab hit teammates changes the entire dynamic and identity of the champ right? not to mention what bad hooks will do to tf from now on, or how hard a trolling blitz can affect his teammates.

I am sorry dude, I am a blitz fan myself, but what you want from them would be game changing in a worse way in my opinion.

When I say thats all it takes to fix Blitzcrank, I mean from a lore standpoint, obviously it is a MAJOR change in his identity, but it would make his lore and his gameplay both actually connect and not being two very different champions. But to really see this in action, look at (yes I know, heresy) Pudge from dota 2, yes he can troll, yes he hits bad hooks, but hitting teammates more times then not if in good hands, can swing a game to your side, But about that trolling part, from lore I think that Blitzcrank would be over protective, from a stand point that he would save them even if it means an enemy getting away, and we already have TahmKench , Ryze ult, Bard , Anivia , Trundle , JarvanIV , so what if he is capable of trolling, a lot of other good abilities at least in my opinion, can troll but also majorly help. But I do think this change would help Blitzcrank and the game more then it would cause harm

Whyte Lyon2 votes

Funny thing is Tahm Kench doesn't have any lore, specifically an actual story to read anyway.

I think your confusing a character's personality as sufficient lore.

marpatt112 votes

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Funny thing is Tahm Kench doesn't have any lore, specifically an actual story to read anyway.

I think your confusing a character's personality as sufficient lore.

Well we have only seen in his lore that he likes to A. backstab people B. feeds off of misery and C. is a sly, silver tongued catfish. EDIT: forgot to mention here im talking about his short story, which is the only piece of lore for him we have.

Whyte Lyon1 votes

im talking about his short story, which is the only piece of lore for him we have.

You mean his trailer video right, I personally wouldn't pretend that is a "short story" but hey describe it which ever way you want I guess.

It did a great job at introducing TK but it didn't establish him further like a bio and colour text would. I mean this is the same thing for Vel'koz teaser too, doesn't mean this fairly new champ isn't lacking significantly in its narrative either. Oh a Bard as well, the Wandering Caretaker had an absolutely amazing cinematic (definitely a step up from Vel'koz) but it still doesn't have "lore" not like how most champs do these days. And Bard is a great character for story telling, its entire creation was Riot's own FU to the Institute of War but Bard still waits for his story.

Look back at 2014-15, Foundations went absolutely all out with some champs like Azir. Yeah lore-wise he's an important character to the wider world but Kallista isn't comparatively. Girl still got a cinematic; a Bio and colour text to go with. Even Ekko and Rek'sai too, however it took Narrative 6 months after their release to complete that, but still they got what was rightfully due within a small-ish time frame.

So yeah at the end of the day I would say Tahm Kench deserves better, unfortunately he's considered fine where he is. Biographies and colour text should be the bare minimum for every champ, anything else is encouraged but still just extra.

_Sorry for off-topic, babbling rant. _

Ebonmaw Dragon2 votes

Im pretty sure that his VO is actually him JOKING about it, not being serious at all... his lore has been clear since ALWAYS that he is a good guy.

And... no, the grab being able to be used towards allies is a bad idea because it would be used for trolling, that is something that has being said since season 1.

... And the ammounts of trolling that it would cause are bigger than the ones caused by Ryze/Bard or Walls.

marpatt111 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ebonmaw Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=chOpilzL,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-09-30T20:26:41.304+0000)

Im pretty sure that his VO is actually him JOKING about it, not being serious at all... his lore has been clear since ALWAYS that he is a good guy.

And... no, the grab being able to be used towards allies is a bad idea because it would be used for trolling, that is something that has being said since season 1.

... And the ammounts of trolling that it would cause are bigger than the ones caused by Ryze/Bard or Walls.

Yes, that is a possibility, but still no taunt is someone "joking" that is a good point still. But again his gameplay still is him just being a robot that runs around grabbing everything in sight to murder it.

Valor Bot1 votes

... And the ammounts of trolling that it would cause are bigger than the ones caused by Ryze/Bard or Walls.

The same thing was said about Tahm though. This dude can remove your ability to play the game for a few seconds, even if you're on his team. I'd say that has far more troll potential than a friendly Blitz hook.

Placentas1 votes

Tahm at least has to be close to you. A blitz that could grab allies could grab someone about to make a kill or steal a baron from far away and across walls. Blitz ally grab is incredibly more trolly than Tahm swallow

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Valor Bot,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=chOpilzL,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2017-09-30T21:25:13.772+0000)

The same thing was said about Tahm though. This dude can remove your ability to play the game for a few seconds, even if you're on his team. I'd say that has far more troll potential than a friendly Blitz hook.

There are 2 differences between Tahm anda friendly Hook:

First: If the grab of blitz could be used on allies and enemies, allies could troll the blitz blocking the grab towards the enemy and Blitz could troll allies grabbing them when they dont want to.

Second: The Devour of Kench let allied champions can exit at will, a friendly grab would not let you choose.

Arakadia2 votes

Thats a massive buff.

And in my opinion Blitz needs a VGU.

marpatt111 votes

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Thats a massive buff.

And in my opinion Blitz needs a VGU.

Tbh, yeah he does too, but this is riot, they haven't even reworked nunu, im just pointing out the EASIEST and simpliest way that riot can make it so that he fits his lore, since they're probably not likely to VGU blitz anytime soon

Hexs Fortune1 votes

The friendly hook is Thresh. No need to homogenize blitz

Chembaron Yamada1 votes

Was always odd, though... Blitzcrank is a friendly robot using his expandable arms in lore to save people, but he can't in game.

Thresh is an evil spirit, trapping and torturing people for eternity. Can save people in game...

KoKoboto1 votes

"The time of man has come to an end!" Gets me every time xD

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