@Riot's artists & writers. Do you talk about diversity?

Solideus·7/28/2015, 3:19:54 PM·8 votes·1,765 views

I'm just curious, do you ever talk internally about representation of different kinds of groups, races, backgrounds and cultures? Do you have discussions about it, and what's your approach to it when creating champions and such? Do you have discussions on how to responsibly tackle cultural appropriation? How do you tackle racial representation? What do you think is appropriate to represent in a game like Leauge of Legends, and what is not? For instance, is sexuality and gender identity off-limits? What about ideologies and social issues?

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Ahelless7/28/2015, 5:55:06 PM6 votes

Give us an athletic girl with muscles, Riot.

Sunflowers7/28/2015, 5:40:13 PM3 votes

i really hope a rioter can comment on this thread cause the lack of diversity is pretty painful in game and i'd really love to hear any remote ideas of how they go about broaching this vast subject and if they are willing to learn from their diverse fanbase and give us some more inclusion.

big companies who make stuff for so, SO many people really need to sit down and have long, serious discussions about all the points you've mentioned in your original post. here's hoping the importance of this thread reaches their ears!

Lost R7/28/2015, 5:23:50 PM3 votes

I think anything related to culture is going to be irrelevant in a fantasy-based game that takes place on another world with its own various established culture (Demacia: Right makes Might; Noxus: Might makes Right; Piltover: Steam/Diesel/Cyberpunk Utopia; Zaun: Science without moral/ethical/legal boundaries; Ionia: East Asia anachronism; Shadow Isles: Land of the Dead; Targon/Shurima: Sun worshipping anachronism of the Middle East, but particularly Ancient Egypt); Bilgewater: Pirate Land; Freljord: Viking land)

Drawing attention to race is always a sensitive issue, and by race I'm guessing more often than not people are referring to portraying blacks. Asians have plenty of representatives (Lee Sin, Xin Zhao, Akali, Shen, Zed, Karma, Master Yi, Ahri, Syndra, Irelia, Kennen to an extent, and Yasuo) and while most of them are no longer humanoid, the Middle East also has representatives (Nasus, Renekton, Azir, Xerath, Sivir, Rek'Sai, Kassadin [maybe], Cassiopeia to an extent, Leona, Pantheon, Diana, and Malzahar). The Spanish don't really have a representation outside of maybe Twisted Fate and anyone associated with Bilgewater who isn't a fish (pirates mostly originated from the British/Spanish empire), but those are not very positive representatives or portrayals in the first place. Blacks so far have only two representatives as of this post: Ekko and Lucian.

When you go down the list, there are honestly not that many verfied white champions, either, and I've heard the argument before that this is a white dominated roster. When you remove champions explicitly from certain race-specific locations like Ionia or Shurima, who are not/no longer entirely human as well as the ones with abnormal skin colors (Soraka, Ryze (Human Ryze skin doesn't count), Brand, Elise, Evelynn, Zyra, etc), the list of verified white as the virgin snow white people is surprisingly small (Annie, Ashe, Braum, Caitlyn, Cassiopeia by origin (her sister is white, so chances are she was probably white as well), Darius, Draven, Ezreal, Fiora, Gangplank, Garen, Gragas, Graves, Janna, Jarvan IV, Jayce, Jinx, Katarina, Leblanc, Lux, Miss Fortune, Nunu, Quinn, Riven, Sejuani, Singed, Sion based on his human concept art, Sona, Swain, Talon, Taric, Tryndamere, Twisted Fate, Udyr, Urgot if he was not a mass of dead flesh, Vayne, Vi, Vladimir, Zilean). Almost 40 champions verified white, which as of this post is just slightly more than 30% of the total champions in the game. I don't really look at race, and I feel that if race dominates design, then it's a bad design, and most people (read: most people who aren't artists or designers and a few who are) won't get that. Lucian's identity isn't dominated by the fact that he was the first black character; his identity is an undead-killing widow who wants revenge for the death of his wife. There was an old post about someone's character concept for a weighty woman; his character design and personality put too much emphasis on her size, so as other summoners pointed out, it was a bad design. Braum's the size of a mountain, but his personality and his lines never really draws attention to it (aside from carrying around a door that probably weighs as much as an SUV).

GreenLore7/28/2015, 3:58:24 PM2 votes

I think sexuality is kinda hard to really represent because the game is supposed to be played almost everywhere and some countries are rather strict when it comes to non-hetero-sexuality(roughly the same can be applied to gender identity).

Sharjo7/28/2015, 10:05:51 PM2 votes

I'd imagine they talk about diversity, but I also recon it's not something like "Hey we've had a bunch of white champions, let's add a black one to make sure we go by our quota!" That'd be dumb as hell. Karma, Lucian and Ekko likely weren't champions they said "Alright let's specifically make them black!" they were envisioned as such from the get go or it naturally happened during the course of their creation.

Sexuality and gender identity is something I feel like they'd rather not enforce because if they do then it makes such things trivial right? What sex you prefer and how you personaly identify are critical character points and just offhandedly having "oh they're bi" or "oh they identify as a man" without any context to back it up or even a story to support it as a character trait makes it a background feature, which it shouldn't be. Remember that while we don't have any confirmed champions who are gay, bisexual or asexual, we have very few champions who're actually documented as straight to begin with.

Roberick7/29/2015, 11:30:00 AM1 votes

Let's not force politics in the game.

FLYING ANCHORS7/29/2015, 2:06:42 AM1 votes

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DearPear7/28/2015, 4:35:43 PM1 votes

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