The 'Player facing lore' problem.

tendo625·6/11/2018, 7:35:30 PM·11 votes·4,525 views

You and I both know that Riot has extensive lore written up for EVERYTHING whether it be the coins used in a region to the favorite food of Trolls or something. The thing that frustrates me the most about League lore is that not only is it static, never really getting anywhere despite the stories we get, (the broken blades was a rare and welcome exception) but if you ever casually browse red posts and see an answer to a lore related question you more often than not come across the phrase 'player facing'.

This phrase has always made me frustrated because it's almost mocking. They know full well the answer to what you want to know but choose to hold it back for arbitrary reasons usually related to finding an 'appropriate' time to release it. For all we know they could have the Soraka lore update done but just choose to hold it back since there's no Targon event happening and the fact there is no communication other than a vague "soon" just makes it all the more tiring being a fan of League lore.

This frustration has made me appreciate the skin lore much more than the normal lore. Do you have a question? just @riot in the title and you'll get your answer within a day or two no matter how complex when wanting to know something like the color of Swain's underwear requires months of build-up and teasing and 'soon' to ultimately culminate in something we either already knew or a meme response.

When important aspects of the lore like Swain's demon is left aside under the vague umbrella or 'maybe soon' it's so incredibly frustrating to see a simple thing not be answered since it's not 'player facing'. Tahm Kench's recent bio and story were written up for quite some time according to a red and only recently shown due to the Bilgewater event, him being my main I was both excited and upset that the lore provided nothing I already didn't know about Tahm. It was cool but Eve got so much more interesting history and developed Demons as a whole while Tahm was more just reiteration. Why did it have to wait if it wasn't even spoilers or anything?

The only word I have to keep describing this is frustrating. I just hope we get more Dark Star or skin lore now since it feels a lot more fulfilling to be noticed and answered when you want to know something new.

13 Comments

RiotBioluminescence6/11/2018, 9:37:16 PM16 votes

Ok so I feel like I've got a lot to answer for here - I've used that phrase quite a few times.
Sorry - it was most definitely NOT intended to be mocking. Not even a little bit. :(

I've been a little cavalier in the past with answering or spontaneously offering up information that we hadn't officially released anywhere - and while folks were happy to get some info, I then had to retract it because there was something in discussion elsewhere in Riot that I just hadn't been aware of. And that felt bad - pretty sure it was a worse disappointment to the players that I had unknowingly misled.

So since then, I've been extra careful to work out if what I'm volunteering is something that's already out in the wild (i.e. has been approved and everyone at Riot who needs to know about it, knows about it), or if it's something that is a work in progress within Riot. Because things that are still work in progress could still change - we might be like 99% confident in it, but that sneaky 1% doubt means that there's the chance that I could really disappoint players.

The difference in teams, is that the folks working on the skinlines usually have slightly fewer people working in the alt-universe IP at the same time - so there are fewer chances that another group is relying on a factoid for their release.

Hopefully, we'll be able to lock things down faster in the future, and there'll be more to talk about with more confidence, and less chance of me being unable to keep track of what so many Rioters are working on!

(Sorry again. No malice was intended, I swear.)

Warlord Rhinark6/11/2018, 7:50:32 PM1 votes

Kayle and Morgana 's lore will not be updated for an eternity because there's probably a 0% chance of an "angel event" happening.

I mean Jesus Christ they aren't even part of the League universe anymore.

They're in their own little world.

Digielf6/12/2018, 11:15:44 AM1 votes

The lore remains static because its a moba, the characters (and skins) that are released should remain the way they are and the most they can get is bios of their origins, Gankplank is the only one who changed based on lore but still the actual reason was behind a gameplay and model update in the first place