@Riot: Nautilus' Helmet -What Lurks Beneath?

Dreamspitter··30 votes·10,992 views

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Recently a number of champion concept arts were revealed. This one struck me in particular, it was from Nautilus development showing what COULD be beneath his helmet. Based on Nami and Fizz lore, it sort of looks like the Void MIGHT have some influence under the seas. That and the ocean is very Lovecraftian.

The ocean ate the last of the land and poured into the smoking gulf, thereby giving up all it had ever conquered. From the new-flooded lands it flowed again, uncovering death and decay; and from its ancient and immemorial bed it trickled loathsomely, uncovering nighted secrets of the years when Time was young and the gods unborn. -The Crawling Chaos (1921)

"All will drown." Nautilus

Sometimes at night the deep waters of the sea have grown clear and phosphorescent, to grant me glimpses of the ways beneath. And these glimpses have been as often of the ways that were and the ways that might be, as of the ways that are; for ocean is more ancient than the mountains, and freighted with the memories and the dreams of Time. -The White Ship (1919)

"Beware the depths." Nautilus

But more wonderful than the lore of old men and the lore of books is the secret lore of ocean. Blue, green, gray, white or black; smooth, ruffled, or mountainous; that ocean is not silent. All my days have I watched it and listened to it, and I know it well. -The White Ship (1919)

"Do you hear them calling?" Nautilus

"The process of delving into the black abyss is to me the keenest form of fascination..." —Lovecraft in a letter to Frank Belknap Long (1931)

"Peer into the darkness..." Nautilus

So when I saw the concept art revealed, I wonder if we might ever see what lurks beneath Nautilus helmet. His current lore says he could no longer tell where he began, and it ended but...does that put him in the category of the Thousand Sons of Warhammer 40,000 or....something more disturbing? It also begs the question, is Nautilus affected by the void, or affected by the Shadow Isles? Especially after the last Harrowing gave a sighting of him as a mention. That doesn't make him involved, but it lends some speculation.

Still, though I know he just got a skin I would like to see a full Void Nautilus. I imagine an Ultimate skin, where as Nautilus levels his armor becomes ever more engulfed by barnacles and coral, the metal corrodes, lamprey nests hatch inside of him, and things scuttle out of one open cavity to be eaten by things hiding in another. Eventually the armored suit shudders and falls apart...to reveal something that should not be. A titanic form so vast, that what we can see is only the tip of an iceberg that extends far beyond the boundaries of our reality, and threatens to sink our little ship called "sanity".

44 Comments

Sharjo24 votes

Personally I'm hesitant to put the Void to Nautilus's lore, mainly because I feel like the ocean's dangers can be entirely their own thing. Have you seen the kind of stuff that lurks in the real world deep oceans? It's terrifying!

Lyvandil1 votes

Well if the concept art is anything to base off of the only person that we know of thus far with tentacles is Vel'Koz. Perhaps whatever crawled in Nautilus is a rival of Vel'Koz.

libraryseraph 10 votes

Yeah. Not everything needs to be void related (tbh I'm not sure i want to know anything about what fucked nautilus up. Sometimes that's creepier)

Sharjo11 votes

It reminds me of all the theories about who could be a Darkin or related to the Darkin in some way. Influence can be cool but when there's too much of it kinda reduces the impact of things.

What's in Icathia? VOID. What corrupted Nautilus? VOID. What's threatening Nami's people? VOID. What corrupted Varus? VOID. What's up with the Frozen Watcher's? VOID.

See what I mean? Makes everything a little smaller when it all ties back in to the same origins.

libraryseraph 7 votes

The League universe has (or had with the retcon it's all up in the air) eldritch abominations unconnected to the void Nocturne Fiddlesticks maybe Shaco, so why not nautilus? also, the void is horrifying and eldritch, but we do understand some things about it, and it fits much better with Nautilus 's lovecraft influences if we don't really understand anything about what corrupted him

Sharjo9 votes

Exactly. The Void's been affecting Runeterra long enough for individual species to be properly integrated in to the natural ecology of Shurima, to be given names in the region's native language, and to become well known across Valoran, while still remaining very alien and otherworldly.

Oceans can change in size but the sea floor barely changes over the eons, meaning the things down there haven't changed for just as long. I feel like the idea of primordial, ancient darkness dwelling down there is more compelling than a Void portal or something. The Void is very alien and as such you think of it in terms of it invading the world. The shit below the waves is already here, and would predate just about EVERYTHING. Hell it would probably predate Valoran itself. That's more scary to me.

Lyvandil2 votes

I can agree. Right quick try to tone down the swearing. Yes, comparing our world to that of LOL our oceans contain just as much hidden stuff as the rainforests. Many things still exist. We can create Spaceships to withstand the pressure of space. Yet we haven't ever mapped out our own oceans. We have no ships capable of reaching the deepest depths of the ocean floor. Ironically some of the scariest looking fish live well below the darkness; even to the point where they have lanterns and they also appear very carnivorous. Who know's what evil lurks at the bottom of the Oceans of Valoran.

Kuroi862 votes

Riot has already set up the possibility of some great darkness hailing from beneath the depths much like how the Shadow Isles and Void are their own dark entities. The terrors of the depths which the Marai struggle to survive against, the failure for a tidecaller to appear before Nami took up the quest on her own, the surface dweller that was meant to trade the moonstone to her for an abyssal pearl.

Then there is Fizz, his people vanishing from their home land without a trace, no clue for him to follow.

Finally there is Nautilus, his fate forever changed after being commissioned by the institute of war. Sent out to sea, only to be dragged under by a mysterious force. Awakening an unknown time later completely changed, now the titan of the depths, the diver suit altered to this new form, and his own inky black visage the only thing visible besides two angry red eyes.

There is more than enough of a set up here for Riot to really go in depth with things.

Dreamspitter1 votes

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Riot has already set up the possibility of some great darkness hailing from beneath the depths much like how the Shadow Isles and Void are their own dark entities. The terrors of the depths which the Marai struggle to survive against, the failure for a tidecaller to appear before Nami took up the quest on her own, the surface dweller that was meant to trade the moonstone to her for an abyssal pearl.

Then there is Fizz, his people vanishing from their home land without a trace, no clue for him to follow.

Finally there is Nautilus, his fate forever changed after being commissioned by the institute of war. Sent out to sea, only to be dragged under by a mysterious force. Awakening an unknown time later completely changed, now the titan of the depths, the diver suit altered to this new form, and his own inky black visage the only thing visible besides two angry red eyes.

There is more than enough of a set up here for Riot to really go in depth with things.

Buuuuuut since he wasnt comissioned by the institute............. who was he commissioned by?

Kuroi861 votes

Good question. Still curious how Riot is going to handle that.

Lyvandil1 votes

Ahh, but that could be the hook. Since so many people are looking into the void there could be another power, or powers at work. All vying for control of Valoran. Perhaps we see the void as everything else, the noxians were the bad people for the longest time. Now the void come's onto the scene and everywhere we look we want to connect the dots to the void. When looking at what is immediately infront of us we don't pay attention to what could be behind the scenes.

Dreamspitter4 votes

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It reminds me of all the theories about who could be a Darkin or related to the Darkin in some way. Influence can be cool but when there's too much of it kinda reduces the impact of things.

What's in Icathia? VOID. What corrupted Nautilus? VOID. What's threatening Nami's people? VOID. What corrupted Varus? VOID. What's up with the Frozen Watcher's? VOID.

See what I mean? Makes everything a little smaller when it all ties back in to the same origins.

I'm not SAYING it's the Old Gods but......it's the Old Gods.

That aside to date it's currently the only thing that threatens ALL of Runeterra.

Sharjo5 votes

As a World of Warcraft player...yup definetly Old Gods.

Lyvandil3 votes

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As a World of Warcraft player...yup definetly Old Gods.

wrong place to be wower.

Solaxo2 votes

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Yeah. Not everything needs to be void related (tbh I'm not sure i want to know anything about what fucked nautilus up. Sometimes that's creepier)

I wish we had some counterweight to the Void. Some other bad guys trying to f*ck the world up

Father Cthulhu2 votes

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I wish we had some counterweight to the Void. Some other bad guys trying to f*ck the world up

So... Shadow Islands?

Lyvandil2 votes

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I wish we had some counterweight to the Void. Some other bad guys trying to f*ck the world up

We do Kassadin, and the Preservers. Unless you mean like another bad guy group to the void.

Dreamspitter2 votes

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Personally I'm hesitant to put the Void to Nautilus's lore, mainly because I feel like the ocean's dangers can be entirely their own thing. Have you seen the kind of stuff that lurks in the real world deep oceans? It's terrifying!

#Air Breather, YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE!

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Blue Moon Wolf2 votes

one word: ningen. creepiest modern day myth I have heard of, topping slender man for 2 reasons:

  1. it's supposed to be as big as a wale
  2. it lives in the ocean http://cryptozoologycryptids.wikia.com/wiki/Ningen (be warned, the "photos" of it range from "meh"- "freaky as hell")
A Superb Villain9 votes

It is one thing to be confronted with unspeakable horrors from the darkest depths, it is another to be infested with them. I find it adds another layer of horror to Nautilus' character that he is struggling with this incomprehensible thing slowly eating away at his mind and body. Nautilus is what he fears the most, but he does not break under the strain of realization.

"Forward, forward." Nautilus

That, and I am a sucker (hah) for eldritch horror.

Lyvandil5 votes

One thing were all letting get out of hand is Nautilus was never seen to be going around messing with anyone. The only people he has any transgressions with are the crew of the ship who let him get pulled down to the dark depths of Davy Jones Locker. This whole view of him being in a bad mood all the time seems to be something created by the masses to make him as though on the spectrum on good and evil he is evil. Which I totally disagree with.

Dreamspitter1 votes

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One thing were all letting get out of hand is Nautilus was never seen to be going around messing with anyone. The only people he has any transgressions with are the crew of the ship who let him get pulled down to the dark depths of Davy Jones Locker. This whole view of him being in a bad mood all the time seems to be something created by the masses to make him as though on the spectrum on good and evil he is evil. Which I totally disagree with.

Soooooooo why IS he rivals (Enemies?) with Nami and Fizz?

Lyvandil4 votes

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Soooooooo why IS he rivals with Nami and Fizz?

Well because that's what riot put them as. There is no lore or anything to even begin to suggest why they are rivals. Riot may have done this to see where the fans would take the story. The bottom line is we have no idea why they are rivals other then taking it as gospel because riot said they were.

terkmc3 votes

Because from Riot standpoint, they both come from the sea so they MUST be connected, just like everybody in Asia must know each other Serious talk: Mostl likely because Nautilus isnt human at this point, whatever dragged him to the bottom had become part of him, he doesn know it but native sea sweller like Nami and Fizz and probably tell/sense, and thus fear him

Konidias5 votes

NAUTILUS IS LITERALLY JUST AN OCTOPUS IN A DIVING SUIT.

HE IS STRAIGHT UP OCTO DAD.

Lyvandil4 votes

Well it's interesting you should bring that up. Mainly due to the fact that Nautilus defended Bilgewater from the Black Mist. While Miss Fortune and Gangplank protected Bilgewater further up the Island. If such is the case is there something that even the Void fears.

Dreamspitter1 votes

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Well it's interesting you should bring that up. Mainly due to the fact that Nautilus defended Bilgewater from the Black Mist. While Miss Fortune and Gangplank protected Bilgewater further up the Island. If such is the case is there something that even the Void fears.

Rather, that the dead fear. Seeing as Naut is so awesome. :D

Lyvandil1 votes

Well I don't think the dead fear the void. You may have a strong liking of Nautilus however, it won't supercede the fact that the Black Mist still attacks even after being beaten back so many times.

terkmc3 votes

I'd prefer for Nautilus to be his own separate side, seeing that he is probably the most badass champion the League. His lore emphasize his determination and loneliness, pushing on alone in complete darkness and silence through sheer force of will, his entire existence hinging on his own personal vengeance. He seems like the third party sleeping giant kind, he have his own goal, doesnt care about the whole Noxus vs Demacia, Void Shadow Isle Valoran Shurima conflict, but he will crush anything that gets in his way.

The ocean itself can and should be its own separate side, in contrast with Shadow Isle evil, Void destruction, the Ocean could be one serving under enigmatic Old Gods, with thing that isnt outright evil but simply feels wrong, overwhelming brute force that sweep everything off its feet and a focus on madness and incomprehensibility.

Inb4 Cthulhu face underneath Naut helmet

CupcakeTrap3 votes

Although it does not directly address what Nautilus might look like inside his armor, Renekton Bot wrote a very good Nautilus backstory that adds some more detail about his past generally, and the incident that transformed him into the Titan of the Depths.

As for the Void and Lovecraft, while I realize this may be an unpopular opinion, I believe it's a mistake to overdo the Lovecraft angle when developing the Void. I adore Lovecraft. He's a fantastic author, and the Cthulhu mythos is truly remarkable. But I just don't think it's a great fit for the League universe. Sure, some of Lovecraft's ideas about cosmic horror can work well to complement the Void's theme, but overall, the Void's Champions are simply too "human" to be good fits for Lovecraft. And that's fine. I prefer the Void as a malevolent alien force than as some bold statement about the inhumanity of the cosmos. If I had to choose a fictional inspiration for the Void, I'd rather go with the Shadows from Babylon 5, or Chaos from Warhammer, than Lovecraft.

I think the Void can draw some elements from Lovecraft, sure. The Colour Out Of Space provides some good flavor for stories about Void contamination and the ways it can mutate Runeterra. However, to me, a copy-paste of Lovecraft seems wrong for the League setting. Not all extradimensional monsters have to be "Lovecraftian".

The Void Champions seem a lot more like Chaos demons from Warhammer than Lovecraft's Old Ones. Honestly, though his quasi-benevolent nature complicates matters, I think Bard is perhaps the most "Lovecraftian" Champion, in that he behaves according to motivations that are nigh impossible for mortals to understand.

Perhaps the problem is this: it's very hard to do Lovecraft in half-measures. League is a pastiche of references, and that's wonderful. A lot of these different references blend together very nicely. Noxus can be a little Rome, a little Klingon, a little Arthurian Black Knight. Zaun can be a little X-Men and a little Shadowrun. But Lovecraft just does not transplant well; it's simply too strange. As I've mentioned before, I think it's a lot like that awful Clone Wars animated series they did for Star Wars. (Not the newer CG one, which was actually rather good; the old Cartoon Network shorts.) They grabbed the artist who did Samurai Jack and had him use that style for Star Wars, and it was horrible. Samurai Jack is a great show, largely because it's so fundamentally unconventional. The music, artwork, and stories have this surreal, even trippy quality. They blend together to make a truly unusual creative work. Trying to carve out one piece of that whole (the artwork) and slap it into a different work was a very poor idea; it just won't blend. Similarly, Lovecraft is wonderful in part because he's so unconventional. But that also makes it very hard to transplant any particular subcomponent into a more conventional setting. Trying to grab some random bits of Lovecraft and throw them into the fantasy smoothie that is Runeterra is very likely to result in "Did you just punch out Cthulhu?" and other such discordant notes.

SaltyToplaneGoat2 votes

I think Nautilus is more connected to the Harrowing than to the Void.

If we watch the Harrowing map it only states "Massive Armored Giant swinging an anchor seen in the fight". We don't know what side he is on. Or if he even IS on any side of if he didn't just wreck anything that crossed his path out of a bad mood. We just know that Nami and Fizz don't like him. Don't care much about Fizz but Nami's people seem to know a lot about the "black mist" (or however we should call the verswion of it that spreads underwater) - they even had their moonstone to defend themself against it.

Nami might know something... ^^

A Superb Villain7 votes

Personally, I like to think that Nautilus was just caught up in that year's Harrowing, and you do not mess with the Titan when he's unhappy, which is more or less all the time. It makes me smile to think our Titan of the Depths fights for no side, but the Harrowing happened to piss him off before Bilgewater could, and unintentionally saved the day; he is so utterly terrifying the living and the dead fear him.

Lyvandil5 votes

He's not part of any faction. However the fact that whether in a bad mood or not he defended Bilgewater. Just as much as Nami and Fizz don't like him and we don't know why. We don't know why Nami and Fizz are even friends.

GenoXx1 votes

dude,....... Nautilus is NOT a black mist Victim. Why does every one keep saying that?? He was fighting Against the black mist along with Gp and MF forces.....read people....read and comprehend

The Loveless2 votes

Scrapped concept art

TwoD2 votes

Can we please stop it with the Void this Void that crap, not everything has to be related in this game.

GenoXx2 votes

Ya know how come everytime something dark and mysterious comes up in Runeterra you guys are quick to say it's the void? Why can't it be a new force under the sea.....under the seaaaa.

libraryseraph 1 votes

I like the idea that Naut has no body, tbh If you managed to damage him enough to crack his shell open, all that would come out would be stagnant seawater and sandy black sludge

spooncats1 votes

Perhaps Nautilus is just Velkoz in a suit of armor ;3

Lyvandil1 votes

Wouldn't work. If that was the case there would have been no point for creating a seperate champion. They would have just made a skin and left it at that.

MeesterMoo2 votes

insert meme of joke flying over your head

GreenLore1 votes

I doubt the void has anything to do with that(although I think an aquatic void creature wouldn't be out of place),I mean the void never corruted anybody who didn't went to icathia. Nautilus was consumed by some dark substance,which sounds a lot like the harrowing mist(the undead travel alongside the mist,but they probably didn't check the bottom of the ocean,so naut was left down there).

Killstrado1 votes

Titanic form, tip of the iceberg.....I see what you did there

HigeR1 votes

as far as I see it, the depth of the ocean are just something else. Like, the void has nothing to do with the shadow isles, why forcing it to interact with the ocean when the ocean itself is pretty scary on its own? there must be crazy creatures in the depth of the ocean of which we know 3, irl, the depth of the ocean hasn't been fully explored, I can't imagine the runeterra sea being absolutely mapped throughout.

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