Yordles being a subrace of Vastaya makes no sense

EvilUnicornLord·Apr 24, 2017·30 votes·2,601 views

It makes sense for them to be similar races seeing as how they're humanoid-animalistic fae races, but yordles were around first.

Yordles were before humans (look at Gnar), humans were before Vastaya (The Vastaya were a chimeric race, the originals having once been humans), yordles can't have been an offshoot of Vastaya.

So calling yordles Vastaya doesn't add up considering they were around before the Vastaya. Xayah, stop telling yordles to do Vastaya things when they aren't Vastaya.

27 Comments

SharjoApr 24, 201718 votes

Whose insinuating this? They're definetly not right. Yordles have their own weird things going on.

5000000000000000Apr 24, 20173 votes

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Lintu PuckApr 24, 201715 votes

"Yordles are the reason no one takes us Vastaya seriously." Ya...ummm...I think you are the one misinterpreting lines here. There is nothing in the above line, or any of the lines, that indicate any character saying Yodles are a subrace of Vastaya. This line instead makes it sound like the people of Runeterra actually lump Yodles and Vastaya together as the same thing. They are both magical furries that the humans know next to nothing about. Add to the fact that mankind has more interaction with Yordles that Vastayan, then it's easy to follow the line of thought of "How I treated a Yodle this way, I can/should treat a Vastayan this way aswell." In a way this is actually like saying all Asians are the same and trying to use your knowledge of Japan when interacting with a Chinese or Korean.

EvilUnicornLordApr 24, 20175 votes

It's easily enough misinterpret-able.

"Yordles are the reason no one takes us Vastaya seriously." Can falsely give the impression that yordles are a subrace of Vastaya (although they aren't).

Sexy Jack RabbitApr 24, 201710 votes

I'm not sure Yordles were ever said to be a subrace of Vastaya's?

Yordle are more like Fae or Spirits. Xayah's quote just implied that Yordld's activities of being annoying tricksters, caused a negative view of the Vastayan Race.

Wind234Apr 24, 20177 votes

Hm, I'm not so sure that Xayah is saying that yordles are vastaya. In fact, I think it's because yordles AREN'T vastaya that Xayah is annoyed with them. It's possible that humans, in the world of Runeterra, might occasionally mistake yordles as a form of vastaya. Since both races apparently aren't all that well-known to most humans, that would mean that most humans would be liable to get them confused if they didn't know the differences. Based on appearance alone, you could easily mistake someone like say Teemo (who is very furry) with a vastaya. I think Xayah's line about "yordles being the reason we vastaya aren't taken seriously" could be a reflection of this. So it's more a case of Xayah actually saying "you're NOT vastaya and people should stop thinking you are."

Jeddy017Apr 24, 20173 votes

Wait am I missing something? No one said anything about Yorldes being Vastayan in 1st place.

MinaZer0Apr 24, 20172 votes

The vastaya's origins can be traced back to a hidden corner of Ionia where a group of humans fled in escape of the Great Void War. There, these refugees came into contact with a tribe of intelligent shapeshifting creatures who were greatly in tune with the world's natural magicks. These spiritual creatures, known as the Vasthayshai'rei, welcomed the human refugees and eventually produced what Runeterrans now refer to as vastaya - a blanket classification for any number of species of chimeric creatures. Over time, the varied offshoots began to settle in different regions and naturally adopted different forms - Wukong simian, avine, even Nami piscine - according to the creatures which most embodied their strongest characteristics.

Apparently Vastaya is a blanket term for anthros

Like saying all dogs are dogs but not all dogs are Pomeranians

Ebonmaw DragonApr 24, 20172 votes

Maybe the Vastaya are a subrace of the Yordles!

EvilUnicornLordApr 24, 20171 votes

Not sure if you're joking. I'm just going to assume you aren't,

The Vastaya came from sentient animals and humans, the yordles evolved from something and played no part in the Vastaya's creation.

Ebonmaw DragonApr 24, 20171 votes

Actually, Im the one who is not sure if You are joking... I have never heard of someone saying that yordles are a subrace of the Vastaya, so, this thread is kinda... pointless. I mean, you are saying what is obvious for anyone who reads the lore.

So... yeah, it was a joke.

EvilUnicornLordApr 24, 20171 votes

There was a misunderstanding of what Xayah said concerning yordles.

Well, yordles aren't Vastaya. That's the point of this post.

Baron of BreadApr 24, 20171 votes

What is the Xayah quote? I haven't bothered to look through her Vo since it is really long.

Lintu PuckApr 24, 20171 votes

"Yordles are the reason no one takes us Vastaya seriously." I only see AbsorbantTNT getting a misunderstanding from this line.

MythicTwisterApr 24, 20171 votes

You're incorrect about the timeline. Vastaya existed before humans.

EvilUnicornLordApr 24, 201714 votes

No, the animal half of the Vastaya likely existed before humans, but Vastaya themselves didn't exist until the humans and said sentient animals met. The Vastaya are half-human so they couldn't have really existed prior to humans.

LanceworksApr 24, 20175 votes

"I learned that the vastaya’s origins could be traced back long, long ago, to a hidden corner of Ionia where a group of humans fled to escape the myriad horrors of the Great Void War"

"These refugees came into contact with a tribe of intelligent, shapeshifting creatures who were greatly in tune with Ionia’s natural magicks. The pairing of these two groups produced the creatures I eventually learned to refer to as vastaya. " Source

SkorchApr 24, 20171 votes

The pairing of humans and shapeshifting creatures created vastaya. But Vastaya are still more closely tied with the shapeshifters than humans, hence some still ARE shapeshifters.

The question is are the THE SHAPESHIFTERS or HUMANS first, and then the answer compared to Yordles is the good question to ask.

Laxfan52Apr 24, 20171 votes

Wait, who said yordles were vastaya?

EvilUnicornLordApr 24, 20171 votes

One of Xayah's lines made some indication that yordles might be Vastaya (she didn't actually say that, it was just misinterpreted).

RalanrApr 24, 20171 votes

Considering Xayah is basically a Vastayan supremacist (or just hates humans) she'll probably try to have other races join her side against humans. Usually finding common ground is how you make friends/allies.

I doubt Yordles are a subrace. Yordles are not chimeras for one and are probably more magic based than Vastayan in the first place.

Valaran NaraApr 24, 20173 votes

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Considering Xayah is basically a Vastayan supremacist (or just hates humans) she'll probably try to have other races join her side against humans. Usually finding common ground is how you make friends/allies.

I doubt Yordles are a subrace. Yordles are not chimeras for one and are probably more magic based than Vastayan in the first place.

Honestly, after hearing her side of the story. I wouldn't say supremacist because then it'd sound like she's doing all of this purely because Vastaya is great. Not because of mistreatment that she has seen. That, and I'm assuming her overall hate for humans is more akin to just her distrust of them as a whole. She tried to speak to them, they batter and beat her. If anything, I am thinking...William Wallace of Scotland?

The British came in...raped and murdered his family. What did he do? Led a rebellion against the British and made war. His anger was understandable as the Scotts were oppressed, and his family was slaughtered. I see this as a good parallel.