"Terror coming, Daddy coming" Who is Kogmaw referring to? (Void Lore)

Insidious··9 votes·5,082 views

One of Kogmaw's taunts refers to someone called "Daddy". Lore wise, we have no idea how Void creatures come to be, whether they're through a hive breeding system, each individual have some form of reproductive capabilities, or if they just come to be through unknown magical forces. As a matter of fact, very little in general is known about the Void, but as seen in Aurelion Sol's lore, there seems to be more unique and sinister void creatures waiting to enter Runeterra. (Credit to whoever posted this on Reddit, peaked my curiosity further)

A pulsing sickness lingers in the air. From the epicenter of the corruption, I feel a will… hungry and indomitable, and far from the typical mindlessness I’m accustomed to from these Voidborn aberrations. The pulsating wound on reality yawns and buckles, distorting and warping all it touches. Whatever exists on the other side is laughing.

Could this be a reference to Kogmaw's father? Could there be a hierarchy where only specific Void creatures are allowed to reproduce, or is there a hive mentality when it comes to such? (A queen?) So many questions that have not been elaborated on, which only increases the curiosity and lore of the Void even further.

Kassadin also had a daughter at one point if I recall correctly, but Malzahar tricked him into sending her into the void, not sure if that has been retconned out due to the lore revamp, but if not, what happened to her? Could she potentially turn into a Human-Void champion herself, or would she have become fodder for hungry Voidlings?

RekSai is treated as a queen and has numerous "Xersai" under her control, but very little is known about the Void and its laws in general. Whether they came through a rift with RekSai or if she somehow managed to reproduce by herself is unknown.

All these questions and I'm aware that a potential "Harrowing" may be coming since October is coming up soon, but if not, (or after) when could we expect some explanation and expansion to the Void creatures and Icathia? There's many unsolved mysteries and questions about the Void, and if Aurelion Sol, a galactic dragon that crafted many universes is intimidated by whatever sinister creature he sensed in the Void, should be we worried?

21 Comments

TricolorStar9 votes

It's an **Icathian Surprise ** [slayer-jinx-wink]

Insidious2 votes

Oh you~

archerno14 votes

Teemos and Tristanas child.

TricolorStar3 votes

Kog'Maw has been talking about 'daddy' for quite some time now (whether it's of the sugar variety is yet to be determined)

Insidious1 votes

I don't even want to begin imagining that. Kogmaw has the capacity of reducing an entire tribe to acidic goo within seconds. Who would want to Heimerdinger a Void creature, and what would they give in exchange to satiate an endless hunger?

Arkale3 votes

Not to mention the thing that drove malzahar mad by speaking to him and giving him visions of the void's invasion

Insidious4 votes

I wouldn't put it past for that exact same figure being the one Aurelion detected in a rift.

Arkale2 votes

I think it's the same one too, i just wanted to add another example. Worded it poorly though.

Solidair32 votes

We've known that Kog'Maw has a father for some time now, as well as Kassadin's daughter.

If you ask me, these both exist in order to give riot a thread to use down the line.

Kassadin's daughter might not even exist anymore, I don't know if they did an update pass on him yet, and we've certainly not gotten any void update yet.

Edit: On that note, would love to see Kass's daughter come back and fuck shit up. Would be some nice lore stuff for Kass, too.

Insidious3 votes

Agreed. A potential rivalry could be established between Kassadin and Malzahar as well. Both are connected through the Voids power, yet they reject each other physically. Would be a nice lore event like Gangplanks if it ever came to fruition.

Iwinatlife422 votes

Ah it feels like old times speculation about Kog's Dad and Kass's daughter now we need a post about the next champ (After Ivern) being Kat's dad

GULAG 4 U2 votes

He's obviously talking about kha'zix, he's afraid the voidreaver will come around and delete his immobile ass

Mordemir1 votes

It's the Monster from Stranger things, duh!

Tattersall1 votes

A while back, a Rioter made an offhanded comment about how the Void itself might be alive. It's possible that the Void is a sentient inter-dimensional being that spawns Voidborn out of itself. Or something. But couldn't Kog'Maw just be refering to Malzahar? That's what I would guess with no research into this.

Btw, honestly, Rek'Sai is more Shuriman than she is Void at this point. Xer'Sai are just a thing in Shurima. They have origins in the Void, yes, but they've been around for so long that I don't think most Shurimans really care where they came from.

Also, Kassadin's daughter was technically retconned out, but Riot has also never really updated Malz or Kass, so it's just as canon as they are.

Here's my old discussion about the Void being alive: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/0r1Hj5EV-the-void

The Last Ballad2 votes

But couldn't Kog'Maw just be referring to Malzahar?

Unfortunately no, as Mal was waiting for him at the gate, and personally led him to the institute(yes that no longer exists, but to kog's current vo it does)

Tattersall2 votes

I'm not sure if this is updated, but from what I know, after the retcon they kept all of Kog's lore basically the same, but then changed the ending to:

His swathe of destruction continues as he is inexorably drawn towards Malzahar. What happens when he finds him is anyone's guess.

Just so you know, I haven't put any serious time into researching this, so I may very well be wrong.

Rebonack3 votes

{quoted}

A while back, a Rioter made an offhanded comment about how the Void itself might be alive. It's possible that the Void is a sentient inter-dimensional being that spawns Voidborn out of itself. Or something. But couldn't Kog'Maw just be refering to Malzahar? That's what I would guess with no research into this.

Btw, honestly, Rek'Sai is more Shuriman than she is Void at this point. Xer'Sai are just a thing in Shurima. They have origins in the Void, yes, but they've been around for so long that I don't think most Shurimans really care where they came from.

Also, Kassadin's daughter was technically retconned out, but Riot has also never really updated Malz or Kass, so it's just as canon as they are.

Here's my old discussion about the Void being alive: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/0r1Hj5EV-the-void

Based on said offhand comment, it is my dear hope that if the Void itself is an organism that it doesn't have any sort of hivemind thing going on. Rather, the Voidborn are simply part of it. Cells, basically. The cells in your body don't know what your will is. They're mindless. They just do the thing they're programed to. That would nicely explain the mindless Voidlings Sol is used to dealing with.

Critters like Cho and Vel, perhaps, might be invested with some small spark of the Void's will. They still have a purpose which drives them to action, but how they carry out that desire is up to them. The Void is their impetus, but they're still technically free-willed. For example, Vel vaporizing the Voidlings that materialized along with him. In a true hive mind something like that would never happen. But if the Voidlings are mindless and the Voidborn have their own will it makes quite a bit more sense.

Tattersall3 votes

I more or less agree with this. I think that, if the Void is alive, it's was some kind of spirit (like Bard) without a true physical form. And then one day, it personified itself into it's own pocket dimension (probably unintentionally, it's a powerful thing). I don't think that the Void is a hive mind, I mean, like you said, Vel is his own person. I feel like voidlings just kind of… I don't know, appeared? Like, they were born out of the Void's essence? Anyway, I don't think that the Void can really control them, they're like animals (mostly). I just think that the Void experiments with them and can point them in certain directions. And Cho'Gath is probably "higher ranked" than other voidborn.

Another way of explaining it: Like how in Greek mythology, Tartarus is both a place in the Underworld and a primordial being with a will.

Wind Whistler2 votes

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And Cho'Gath is probably "higher ranked" than other voidborn.

YES! He most certainly is.

Toa of Death1 votes

I want there so badly to be Void lore soon. I want to see Cho'Gath be the menacing terror that he is. I want to see Kha'Zix hunting in his jungle domain. I want to see Malzahar running a god damn cult. I want to see Kassadin trying to warn others of the Void only for them to call him mad and then regret it later. There's so much potential for Void lore and I can't wait to see what Riot has in store.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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