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DrCyanide39 votes

Rengar got a new best friend!

Ralanr35 votes

He doesn't need a leash and can make bushes.

I'm a bit scared actually.

IronicGentleman25 votes

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He doesn't need a leash and can make bushes.

I'm a bit scared actually.

  1. No leash
  2. Fast clear
  3. 100% hp clear and first gank
  4. On-demand bushes

Um ... Please Rito, tell me you balanced him somehow ...

Ralanr22 votes

Apparently he sacrifices health and mana whenever he frees a camp.

Meep Man2 votes

How do you know?

Ralanr17 votes

I'm scouring the forums and Reddit, think Meddler said it.

blkKalameet2 votes

correct, it's in the thred demanding his info be released.

question is, how much does he sack for this early game? and does it have a cool down?

All Day Tay Tay2 votes

does he get gold on freeing a camp?

invisiblecat13 votes

He gets gold and exp

blkKalameet10 votes

yes. he gets gold and exp as if he cleared the camp normally.

All Day Tay Tay2 votes

whats the cd lvl 1? if i am playing sup, can i take krugs/gromp before minions hit the lane?

blkKalameet2 votes

at lvl 1 it takes 40sec to set it up. so I'm going to say no.

All Day Tay Tay1 votes

set up as in i click it and 40 secs later i take it or like the cooldown

Votable Jester1 votes

The first one.

blkKalameet1 votes

correct, 40sec later you can take the camp.

but, if you smite the camp you take it instantly. so I guess he can instantly steal the other junglers buff? but they can probably just take yours in the time it takes you to clear...

blkKalameet1 votes

agreed that taking the buff can be a major setback for the other jungler, but this champ seems to have almost no ability to hold his own in a 1v1 fight for the majority of the game.

so I just see it extremely likely for him to be invaded and killed in his own jungle a lot buy most of the popular jungle choices

Death by Kayn2 votes

Ar level 1 it takes a grove 40 sec to grow

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

demanding? what is wrong with those people... squad 5 told you everything you needed to know on twitch.

blkKalameet1 votes

it was a m&g post demanding his info be released before the guy broke his keyboard refreshing the page over and over again while the release page was down due to a problem

BLACK REALM GOD1 votes

oh. okay. that's m&g posts. they're not serious. i was about to say if someone actually did that they need help. there's a difference between healthy obsession and addiction.

kile1475 votes

I like that term, "frees".

Next time I jungle I'll just keep in mind I'm not killing then, in freeing them from existence.

Astôlfo3 votes

And then they just invade him and repeatedly reset the jungle camp while he tries to do it, since Ivern seems to have no 1v1 potential at least in early, nor does it seem likely he could take jungle monsters otherwise (or at least, by any fast means).

NightmareAmazoX3 votes

Except he has a better Lee Sin Q and a bigger explosive Sion shield + BUSH !

Stemw39 votes

I wouldn't call that a "fast clear". Almost any Jungler with 1-2 Items will outspeed him (if this doesn't get faster with higher level).

Jayrett3 votes

true, but other junglers can't take a buff and leave another copy for an ally. That's what he gets for a slower clear time. Once he hits lvl 5.

Zonkman1 votes

He kinda seems like he does like no damage I think

Paletongue1 votes

He's a support jungler

Zonkman2 votes

I feel like a clear like that is the only way that would work

FantasySniper2 votes

Considering the delay from his passive, it's a lot of time without access to exp and shit.

If they're able to farmed while he has his grove on them, that means they can be easily stolen late-game, too.

GreenLore1 votes

Well you can use smite to instantly clear a camp,which helps to get a level up early on and you can clear multiple camps at once.

FantasySniper1 votes

Makes sense.

Looks like Insight will become mandatory on him. Maybe even Lucidity, too.

Fear the Harvest14 votes

Premade power Activate!

Form of Rengar Nidalee getting camped by allied Ivern!

Seriously though he looks fun but this guy is going to completely destroy things if he's got voice chat with one of these champs.

invisiblecat13 votes

Not sure, but I think bushes work for enemies too

Dabby9 votes

I love how Riot continues to create unique kits for new champions. Their ideas are limitless, it's a wonderful thing. I have to say though...if I run into Ivern on the Rift, I might have a mini heart attack. His strut is something out of a horror movie, and that golum-like creature reminds me of Tibbers, which reminds me of death...RIP Junglers.

Photos of Ghosts7 votes

POTATOS ARE ALWAYS WATCHING

RiotBioluminescence16 votes

[{quoted}](name=Photos of Ghosts,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=TG96eGfw,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2016-09-20T20:54:34.400+0000)

POTATOS ARE ALWAYS WATCHING

You think they have all those eyes for nothing? ;)

Photos of Ghosts4 votes

YOU did you work on Mechs vs Minions?

RiotBioluminescence10 votes

[{quoted}](name=Photos of Ghosts,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=TG96eGfw,comment-id=001300000000,timestamp=2016-09-20T23:39:27.331+0000)

YOU did you work on Mechs vs Minions?

ME?! No, I didn't. I got to playtest it over a year ago, but haven't had the pleasure since! (I'm hoping to buy a copy for my gaming group to play.) Might be able to volunteer to help with a thing for them for the near future, but nope - I am not part of the awesome team that made it :)

Baron of Bread1 votes

Is there any tabletop system it might be comparable to? I haven't been able to get a good read on what it is like.

RiotBioluminescence2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Baron of Bread,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=TG96eGfw,comment-id=00130000000000000001,timestamp=2016-09-21T04:14:18.729+0000)

Is there any tabletop system it might be comparable to? I haven't been able to get a good read on what it is like.

If you've played Robo Rally, then imagine that, but crossed with something like Mice and Mystics for the story-missions and the co-op elements. I.e. it's a 'programming' game but you're trying to work together to achieve whatever the goal is for the particular mission you're on!

There are some pretty good 'how to play' videos out there, if it's all a bit abstract still. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLtVB6zkvcs

Also, there's a whole sub-Board devoted to the game over on the sidepanel there.

What Is Smite1 votes

Think you guys will ever release a steam version? I love being able to sit at home and play Talisman with buddies that live far away from me, it gives me a reason to keep in touch with them despite busy schedules on both ends

Naenia6 votes

I was wondering how he would work...being a friend of the jg and all. That's awesome!

Meep Man3 votes

I'm honestly incredibly excited because Ivern is shaping up to be the first champion that actually "breaks" in-game set rules. Junglers need to kill things/take Smite? Nah.

redfeenix2 votes

Looks like he needs to channel. It would be tough for him to contest objectives in combat without smite.

Drugoth1 votes

Not to mention how would he control objectives like dragon and baron without smite? I doubt he can channel and "free" Dragon and baron. He probably still needs smite.

Photos of Ghosts2 votes

Has to fight them. He says "dragons and void creatures don't like me :c"

KoKoboto3 votes

Seems underpowered

yoshi27902 votes

He looks strong af.

BUT HES SO COOL AND HE IS ACTUALLY FRIENDLY TO THE JUNGLE 'MONSTERS' I LOVE HIM SO MUCH!

Beastyboy387IVC2 votes

the first smiteless jungler?

juice loosener2 votes

hey guys, remember plant king?! :D

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