I don't see the problem with new Varus Lore

CytheGuy··15 votes·681 views

His old lore was generic as f*ck. Man loses wife and child and goes on a spree of vengeance (but this time a demon possesses him too!). Now it's at the very least more interesting. Seriously, someone explain to me how they can get so attached to something so lifeless and lazy as old Varus?

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MatthewRT23 votes

Varus was a man of honor that chose his sworn duty over his people.

The old lore gave a sense that Varus was the person wielding the bow not the bow itself.

The thing i disagree with the MOST is that after unleashing the "corruption" upon himself he was still "in control"

Varus turning out to have the darkin bow gave us the middle ground of a darkin maintaining a mutual relationship with it's host.

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO1 votes

Except we know now that the nature of the Darkin is to corrupt and consume as fast as possible. There is no way old Varus would have lasted a long time at all with a Darkin consciously trying to assume total control.

MatthewRT21 votes

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Except we know now that the nature of the Darkin is to corrupt and consume as fast as possible. There is no way old Varus would have lasted a long time at all with a Darkin consciously trying to assume total control.

but we don't, Aatrox lore has him just showing up and rallying troops to fight since he is the darkin of war. He come and goes taking part in what he enjoys to do, war, never does it say that he consumes people. It seems that aatrox takes over dead bodies.

The darkin of vengance could have been working with varus mutually since they both had the same goal, reaping vengeance.

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO2 votes

Except no, Aatrox' lore explicitly states how he consumed a swordsman who tried to wield Aatrox and took over his body (It's part of the new batch of bios)

Why would the Darkin of vengeance be willing to let Varus be in control if it could easily consume, improve, and go about on it's own agenda.

MatthewRT21 votes

yeah the new shit that people aren't a fan of, just turning all of the darkin into body consuming demons lacks depth.

Aatrox only showed up during great conflict where he could participate in the slaughter of others to satisfy his hunger for war.

The spirit of vengeance feeding off of varus would be no different, it craves vengeance and uses varus for the purpose.

then you have kayne who was much different from his weapon which would explain the inability of cooperation

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO1 votes

Well the "new shit" is what's canon so :/

Aatrox is not just showing up randomly, he's enacting vengeance on the people that defeated him. He doesn't feed off of war.

Vengeance isn't like some sort of drug for the Darkin, vengeance is a way into the mind of the mortal, to get them to surrender their control. Varus craves vengeance from himself because that's all he cares about now.

Kayn is a much more powerful person than almost anyone who has ever wielded a Darkin weapon (the flame-haired woman held Varus but only for one battle) and also much more convicted to himself. He has a willpower not easily manipulated like Varus' would've been.

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

Yepp, Kayn is literally the last person you'd trust a Darkin Weapon with - that's why he's the perfect candidate. He's not righteous, or zealous, or of incredible wisdom that he could put against the Darkin, he's just as bad as Raast. Possibly even worse. Those two wrestling for control is not Raast wanting to kill or Kayn stopping him. It's a quarrel of who gets to decide and do the killing. There is literally nothing you could corrupt in Kayn, the dude's already fucked up.

A righteous man like old Varus on the other hand... probably wouldn't have lasted a week.

junglerboy161 votes

That's actually a part of Varus' old lore, that he was protected from being corrupted instantly by his amulet to some Owl diety of Ionia. The only reason he had purple pants and bow only instead of everything was that amulet, but even that wasn't going to protect him forever, which is why he's always going on about being on borrowed time.

AirKingNeo1 votes

That implies that the Darkin would want to kill him.

Of course, making all Darkin lifeless killers makes no sense.

Tesla Effect3 votes

Valmar and Kai perfectly portray everthing old Varus had characterized, the Darkin now known as Varus represents the revenge and hatred aspect of old Varus.

Honestly the core of what made old Varus is still there, its just tweeked up a bit to give more depth to the characterization and character growth. Honestly the biggest difference is the introduction of the three-soul amalgamation thing, and even that can be justified since Runeterra is already familiar with the aspect of an amalgam existence (heck half of the Shadow Isles champions have more than one soul in their bodies, not including the Aspects of Targon which greatly compare to the current Darkin.)

sumerska1 votes

Fandoms are a powerful thing and people develop an attachment to their favorite characters. Varus's lore did change him quite alot, so it's understandable why all of the Varus mains and people who loved him might have been upset over the changes. Old Varus wasn't boring or lifeless, he just had a different approach to essentially the same theme and story (Village gets invaded and lover gets killed, in order to get revenge he allows himself to become corrupted). You have to realize though that it's the little details that shape a character. I personally enjoyed both his old and new lore, though I completely understand why many are against the new one.

Also I've noticed how both sides of the argument seem to enjoy undermining each other's preferred lore, saying things like "the old lore was lifeless, man's family dies and now he seeks revenge, how generic," versus "the new lore is so dull, two gay lovers get taken over by a darkin, the old lore was better." Those that liked the old lore better think the new one is more dull, while those who like the newer better think the old one was dull. It's clear that everyone sees shit differently.

E Man forever1 votes
  1. 1 thing I like to do is sync up Varus new music video with Linkin Park “Numb”. Psst it’s awesome [galio-happy]
A Liberal1 votes

They're not attached they're just triggered

The Oasis1 votes

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His old lore was generic as f*ck. Man loses wife and child and goes on a spree of vengeance (but this time a demon possesses him too!). Now it's at the very least more interesting.

In his new lore the entire depth of his character is "He's beautiful, likes to torture people and went on a quest for vengeance after being arrested for war crimes (or something). Also his new body is made up of gay men...AND THEY WANT IT BACK!!!!"

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