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Which Characters Bios are not canon?

Celeburus··2 votes·1,207 views

I just wanted to know so i can understand the lore better

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Sharjo2 votes

Malphite, Kayle, Morgana, Nocturne, Fiddlesticks and Cho'Gath have completely non canon lores as everything about them is linked to the Institute of War. It's unknown what will be carried over, but in some cases there's sod all to carry over cough cough Fiddlesticks cough Nocturne cough cough.

Lee Sin, Nautilus, Orianna, Brand, Alistar, Janna and Shaco have large sections of their lore that aren't canon, but elements that are essentially the foundations for what will come (Lee being a magic user who then repents by becoming a monk, Nautilus being left to die, Brand inhabiting Keghan Rhode, etc). Not very trustworthy regardless though.

Zed, Galio, Vi, Kennen, Akali, Zilean, Wukong and Maokai have odd lore that's canon in some ways and isn't in others, but it all still fits within the new canon regardless. It's odd. I'll briefly describe why here:

  • Zed, Kennen and Akali's lores will have changes because of changes brought by Shen's new lore and how he operates. His new bio directly affects how their lore now works.
  • Galio's lore was intrinsically tied to Poppy's, and now that Poppy's has changed the circumstances around Galio's have also changed.
  • Vi's lore is muddied by details brought to the table by Ekko, so it's not easy to say what's exactly true here. It could all be, Ekko just makes things a tad muddled.
  • Wukong's lore was weirded out when Master Yi's lore was updated. For all intents and purposes Master Yi's lore can be considered the canon version of how Wukong and Yi met, but details about other parts of Wukongs lore are up in the air anyway.
  • Zilean's lore's been left in the dust but Vel'Koz reaffirms that it's still a thing. It's kinda odd because where as the champs listed above bring changes to other champion's bios, Vel'Koz reaffirms Zilean's by reassuring us that Urtistan is still canon, as is Zilean's clock tower. What else is canon is anyone's guess.
  • Maokai's current bio seems to have been built using an earlier version of the Shadow Isles backstory that wasn't fully nailed down at the time, and changed somewhat over the course of a few months. The current Shadow Isles backstory was almost certainly nailed down by Kalista's release, so Mao's is a bit odd.

In those special cases there details about the champ's bios can be extrapolated from new lore, especially in the case of Maokai; just change some phrasing and it works out perfectly.

That's all I can think of at the moment.

Shadowkirby141 votes

Those whose lore aren't canon anymore in any shape or form. Canonically, these guys don't exist at all. They have no literal place or meaning to be within the lore: Fiddlesticks Kayle Malphite Morgana

Those whose lore aren't canon, but still have elements that somehow makes them relevant depending on where they came from: Brand Chogath Alistar Janna Jax LeeSin Nautilus Nocturne Orianna Shaco Evelynn

Also about Nocturne, I feel that they're going to make him originate from the Shadow Isles and, if the Zed theories are correct, he'll reside within Ionia. For Shaco, I want him to be a fallen-from-grace Noxian assassin who later went bat-shit insane from being trapped within the Glade. It's sad that out of the three, Fiddlesticks is the only one that has nothing; he has no purpose in the lore, without it, his kit makes no sense thematically besides being a scarecrow. Making him a demon is too boring, he can't be from the Shadow Isles because there's already too many champions that comes from there and doesn't basically fit him, and have him being some personification of fear is just downright weird to me. What's the point in being called the Harbinger of Doom if Riot can't figure out what to do with him?

For Evelynn, I asked a Rioter if she's still going to be from the Shadow Isles, and they responded that they're not sure. My guess is that they might put her somewhere and have the Shadow Isles be the main source of her power.

Sharjo1 votes

Knew I was forgetting someone; Jax. Thank you for reminding me on that.

Also Evelynn's at the very least considered to exist since she at least has an intro paragraph that puts her somewhere in the canon, despite the massive amount of nothing she has for lore. Everything she's got at the moment's canon.

Marbelara1 votes

What about the yordles?

After Poppy's lore update, Yordles are confirmed to live for hundreds of years, leaving Lulu's lore partially on the ice. Kennen will probably recieve changes as well as you've said. Not sure about the more modern yordles.

Sharjo2 votes

At the very least what most of them have right now can actually work, it'd just be a tad strange. They don't have truly broken lore at the moment. Even Lulu can still have her disappearance in to the glade for centuries and it can work, it's just a bit off because of the new stuff we've seen about yordles.

Meep Man2 votes

Only the ones that are directly connected to the Institute of War are not considered canon actually. The rest can be loosely seen as canon/give an idea of what the champions are once their Lore is redone. The following aren't canon: Alistar Chogath Fiddlesticks Galio Jax Kayle LeeSin Malphite Morgana Nautilus Nocturne Shaco Orianna Janna

Officer Zyra 1 votes

i think LeeSin Fiddlesticks Brand are not canon, unless they got a lore update they went over my head XD

Meep Man2 votes

Brand got updated

MavenSong1 votes

It depends. Some older champ's lore can still be considered canon so long as you take out whatever ties to the IoW and summoners and it still makes a story.

Rebonack1 votes

Arguably none of them are canon, since any of them could be retconned at any moment as Riot's mercurial vision of what the game's lore is supposed to be shifts. The purpose of having a 'canon' is to have a shared body of lore that everyone can agree on as the factual basis for a setting. League has nothing like that, it's one big contradictory mess.

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