Please Riot, did you not understand Viktor's character at all?

333lom·11/29/2016, 8:51:46 PM·133 votes·7,498 views
http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/camille-weakest-heart

A cult of Glorious Evolved, as they're called in the New Lore, worship some kind of deity the Gray Lady, who demands sacrifice; people as mindless drones leaving their severed body-parts and organs to rot on the altar?

This is a COMPLETE miss, and Viktor's story is not even out yet.

And I thought the original lore of Jayce was bad.

I am... so disappointed. I've played this game only because of this one character.

EDIT 1: Viktor was supposed to be a scientist. A scientist.

EDIT 2: Dear Riot. We don't want Viktor as a leader of the Techpriests, leading a cult that demands human sacrifice, or Viktor as a God Emperor who may or may not be dead and obsolete.

We want a scientist with personal problems, who has nothing to do with religion,


EDIT 3: There's a saying "better safe than sorry".

Viktor is a genius scientist. He has a vision for the future in which mankind progresses. He's LoL's Nikola Tesla - his abilities are even inspired by Tesla's proposed inventions. The Evolution should be a sci-fi transhumanist movement centered around a philosophy. It should be scary only because nobody can see where it ends and how it affects the world. Not because it's a fanatical insanity movement. Why? The "crazy religious cult" trope is already overused, with Elise, with Karthus, with Malzahar. We've already seen this exact same trope in Warhammer 40K and it does not suit Viktor.

Viktor would not tolerate some people starting a religion around his idea and place decaying organs and limbs on an altar in unsanitary conditions where disease spreads and likely kills people faster than badly done amputation could.

The only thing that could be coherent with his old lore is if he does not approve of religions forming around his scientific achievements, or if he doesn't even know about these cults. Still, this cult is like a copy-paste from Warhammer40k.

169 Comments

A Superb Villain11/29/2016, 9:30:39 PM54 votes

I will keep this simple so that Riot might better understand; Viktor is not a mechanical Karthus, so don't make him one. Viktor is a scientist, not a priest or a prophet.

Edit:

A reminder, Riot, since we went over this problem a long time ago.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/EEPKkkVp-what-champs-do-you-want-to-hear-more-about?comment=000c

FreudTastic11/29/2016, 8:56:10 PM32 votes

I agree, like what the fuck? This is not a respectful representation of him at all.

PailKnight11/29/2016, 9:14:33 PM20 votes

Quite honestly, all this lore retconning is really turning me off to this game.

Viktor was one of my favorite champions. Again and again they just crap all over his character. Really sucks.

Powergirl11/29/2016, 9:18:02 PM19 votes

Well, apparently Riot belives they know better, just like they always did. I do not remember the last time Riot actually listened to it's community. Old lore was good. It was, rusty, sure, but IT WAS GOOD. And once again, i am not saying the new lore is bad! Its awesome and interesting too! But, for god's sake. YOU DO NOT TAKE CHARACTERS PEOPLE ARE ALREADY ATTACHED TO, AND CHANGE THEM INTO SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT. You. Just. Don't. I am really trying to keep my positive additude, but honestly, this is just awful. I'm really trying to stay up to date with lore, but ever since Taliyah's story it gets really hard to read. (Although i admit shurima's event was great) What Riot is doing is an awful thing, it's spitting in fan faces! And the fact Riot shows no interest or reaction when it comes to the fact so many people are displeased about the lore is even worse! I am well aware i am just spilling salt all around but seriously this is horrible. It took me a while to come to terms with he fact Zaun is now slums, but for god's sake, please STOP.

Revares11/29/2016, 10:09:53 PM15 votes

No, please not Viktor. Ye, lets throw his character to trash and make him some occult maniac - great idea! I love Viktor with all of my heart and he is one of reasons i came back to LOL. I am here mosty for lore and i won't stand threating Viktors personality like this. Like the others said: he is not some God Emperor or priest. He belives that techmaturgy can bring to people greater good, he imagine the world without illnesess, poor or rich people and mostly with justice, everybody matters the same. This is the Glorious Evolution, not sacrificing occult. Riot i beg you, stop this insanity!

Viktorious Sayph11/29/2016, 10:17:15 PM14 votes

I'm waiting 3.5+++++ years for a skin and this is what riot gives me. THANKS RIOT

Velasan11/29/2016, 10:41:40 PM11 votes

I like Viktor because he's the ONLY pure scientist type champion in the game in the sense that everyone else is all half magical hextech this and that.

Viktor is more like, I got mah lazors and robo drones. Prepare to die.

And I love that about him.

CommodoreZavexio11/30/2016, 12:28:06 AM9 votes

Just on a general basis the literary appeal to the old lore was rather unique and had a variations of interpretation. My favorite being that Viktor was a good guy with questionable means to bring about something he was passionate about. He had acolytes - willing followers - rather than mindless drones. He always wanted to improve and perfect everything. At the same time he could be seen as a bad guy for being some sort of enemy to humanity. But it's the fact that he hovered in an ambiguous grey area that made it fascinating. His rivalry with Jayce was also somewhat unclear, and although jayce is somewhat seen as the hero and a good guy - he can also be seen as a bad guy, ruining viktor's work and claiming false glory from lies made about Viktor making him seem an enemy.

The priest sacrificing people to a diety for some cause seems so overplayed and cliche. The religious tone of it is all too common - bring back the scientist, the man who strives for perfection through steel, and brings on acolytes that share his views and wish to use science to bring in a new age. Viktor

Darius Strada11/29/2016, 10:07:01 PM8 votes

If that's true and Viktor instead of being a scientist determined to make the human race Evolve Gloriously becomes some cult like priest, I'm gonna be sad...

Troll for Trump11/29/2016, 10:49:00 PM8 votes

So they're turning Viktor into mecha-Malzahar (lorewise)?

Revares11/29/2016, 11:08:38 PM7 votes

I only hope they won't make him cartoon villain again. He has a deeper character than a typical bad guy. Riot have mercy please.

Battlecast Sona11/29/2016, 9:41:52 PM6 votes

but what if Viktor didn't create the religion himself? What is the masses created the religion as a way to cope with a being who has (to their perception) god like powers?

His story isn't even out yet, how can you possibly claim to say anything about his lore? What if he hates these people?

Gapybo11/29/2016, 9:49:00 PM6 votes

You don't even know yet how Viktor is connected to this cult, if at all. Can you people put down the pitchforks... Jumping to so many conclusions in your post without any base at all.
[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Zooreka11/29/2016, 10:13:03 PM5 votes

I think the main issue is that the lore staff defaulted on the 'creepy cult' cliche (which they already used on Elise) and passed on many other storytelling opportunities that were fresher/more three dimensional/more interesting that still got the same ideas across. It's also been brought to my attention that it's a pretty hard ripoff of the Warhammer Machine God cult. I expect more from a professional writing staff, and I'm honestly disappointed for these reasons, and these reasons alone.

Jon117411/29/2016, 9:03:31 PM5 votes

Perhaps they plan on rewriting his lore? like they did with Gangplank and Miss Fortune