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Sharjo34 votes

THE MEMES ARE DEAD!

LONG LIVE THE MEMES!

For real though the skin looks awesome. Surprised they decided it would be 1350 rather than legendary (Looks that way at least, that's not confirmed yet), but hey I'll take it.

Ralanr23 votes

Someone call the cops, we found another dead meme.

GreenLore8 votes

We still got starguardian Urgot to do.

Talvaren1 votes

I think I have an idea about how this meme will be killed, and I think it will be in April Fool's Day. [draven-pose]

Sharjo6 votes

That's entirely community made though, not an actual meme about the game. Riot hasn't made promises about SG Urgot as they had with Dragonmaster Swain.

GreenLore3 votes

Well you just said memes,you didn't specify if they had to be started by riot or not.

NineTailedMystic1 votes

no

Dragon Master20 votes

Give me a moment...I need to cry a bit.

Flawless Fetus16 votes

Ahhh. This is explains why they nerfed Tyrant Swain.

WestTiger12 votes

I feel like Tyrant was gimped in favor of not just prioritizing budget to Dragonmaster, but also to make old Swain Mains with Tyrant into new whales. Dragonmaster even as a WIP has fully modeled ult form and transformation, complete with a unique flight animation for it. Features that many had ask be present in Tyrant since it was promoted as 'when the demon fully takes over'.

Even such sloppy details like the animation bone wrap error on Tyrant's breastplate (the reason why it warps like its leather instead of keeping its shape like metal, something that's seen on the default breastplate) that was left in.

This all come into focus. Feels scummy of Riot to basically punish their oldest players and mains, many who already owned Tyrant as a way to show their support of a niche champ, all to make sure they can fleece more money.

GreenLore1 votes

And Tyrant Swain has processed VO and special voice lines that Dragon master might be lacking. We should wait and see until Dragonmaster hits the PBE before comparing the 2.

WestTiger3 votes

Nope, Dragonmaster also has a voice filter (a better one IMO) and unique lines.

In other words, Dragonmaster is objectively better than Tyrant even though both cost the same. Riot deliberately gimped Tyrant in favor of Dragonmaster to make old owners of Tyrant buy DM instead.

GreenLore1 votes

While I'd agree that DM Swain is qualitatively a bit better than Tyrant,I don't think it is that much of a difference,the only things that DM has over Tyrant are: -He gets a new model for his feet during his ult(both of them get new heads for them,DM Swains ultmodel is still just an altered version of his regular ones) -He gets the flying animation(honestly I feel like this should have been something for all the skins,the stiff wings look kinda weird) and a special Q animation during his ult. -His E has a unique shape upon return,wheras Tyrants still has the claw shape,just in green(not sure if that was changed later on,the video that I saw still had the old Q

  • His VO got changes,that switch the references to Birds for Dragons.

Meanwhile Tyrant has only the following benefits: -He has an extra model on his recall -He has additional lines -The model for his human head looks completely different from the standard one(DM swains honestly looks like they just changed some colors for the regular one and gave him different eyes)

And I think which of the VO-aspects you prefer is up to you. So essentially it boils down to the fact that DM has 2 more animations,slightly more model changes for his ult and a more unique looking E,while Tyrant has a unique model for his recall and his head looks more different than the base one.

And while I don't think this is enough to put the 2 skins on equal terms,it means that DM isn't that much better than Tyrant either.

Stars Shaper11 votes

But more importantly...

Where is Dragon Empress Ahri / Lux / MissFortune ?

Edit: I'm just trying to keep some memes alive D:

AmazoX3 votes

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But more importantly...

Where is Dragon Empress Ahri / Lux / MissFortune ?

Edit: I'm just trying to keep some memes alive D:

Poor soul, you've done nothing wrong, you have my up vote & love.

P.S: Thanks for providing the link of the comic for Yasuo Vs Riven (Nightbringer Vs Dawnbringer event)

Stars Shaper1 votes

You're welcome, hope you liked the read ^^.

Daunt8 votes

Tbh i find his model a bit strange (mainly his head) and a little bit less epic than what i expected it would be. Maybe it was just that it fit the old Swain better.

I also feel kinda cheated on since Swain gets a brand new skin RIGHT AFTER his release...

Although i have to say, that dragon form is so cool.

Velzard of Koz2 votes

Yeah it looks mostly like recolors of his normal particles. It looks like skins that only change model reworked for VGU champion. Like when they added recolored particles to Yorick skins that otherwise changed just model. That's what it looks like to me but I suppose they'll sell it for full price of skin that changes models, adds VFX etc.

Arakadia5 votes

The skin was definetly better on old Swain who had ravens as a mug more core part of his theme and kit. More ravens = More dragons.

Poop Jelly8 votes

Even the dragons look like bats flying around him. I'm still convinced Swain is related to Vladimir somehow... :V

ChildishBrandino8 votes

His rework isn't even Live yet but they made a new skin for him. I feel like they need to do this with every rework.

Velzard of Koz1 votes

If I remember correctly, Reav mentoined they changed how teams work to allow this. Before they couldn't organize it so that the skin team makes new skin alongside VGU, now they are able to work on new skin alongside skin reworks for VGU.

So it's possible it will become trend for future VGUs. Or it's just that this skin was so requested and I am having hallucinations about what was said.

Nintendo 3DS7 votes

AFTER ALL THESE YEARS.

I need a moment.

A bit sad its not our next ultimate though.

Sukishoo2 votes

Doesn't even look legendary, so that's really disappointing.

paisy2 votes

Maybe because it isn't?

Sukishoo4 votes

Well yeah, it's 1350. It could have been so much more.

Kylän seppä5 votes

The reason Tyrant Swain could not be the epic master piece it should have. Behold, skin they want you to rather buy.

Océanyx5 votes

Am I the only one who wanted Dragon Master Swain to be in the same vein as Dragon Sorceress Zyra ? With Purple Particles instead of the red-orange that are not really different from the basic skin ?

Maybe its just me...

WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO4 votes

Color me surprised.

Serena Lamburg4 votes

This skin somehow reminds me to Dracula from the Castlevania series, its so similar tbh....

AmazoX2 votes

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This skin somehow reminds me to Dracula from the Castlevania series, its so similar tbh....

Omfg so right.

Akali Prime4 votes

so swain gets a brand new skin right after his rework but Evelynn Shen Urgot Warwick Yorick Galio dont? more importantly new reworked champs gets a new skin before Camille AurelionSol Taliyah Kled Ivern Kayn

what the fuck riot

Sukishoo20 votes

Well, it's a very highly wanted community skin. The others didn't really have anything that was sought after for 6 years.

Warwick had plenty of skins, even a skin like a year or so before his rework and he will be getting another on Thursday.

We also don't know the other skins that are most likely coming so any of the new champions that are up for a skin could be in there.

Akali Prime2 votes

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Well, it's a very highly wanted community skin. The others didn't really have anything that was sought after for 6 years.

Warwick had plenty of skins, even a skin like a year or so before his rework and he will be getting another on Thursday.

We also don't know the other skins that are most likely coming so any of the new champions that are up for a skin could be in there.

so was star guardian urgot

and i hope your right because it seems like thats the only skin on this patch so far, which will be real shitty

Sukishoo12 votes

SG Urgot wasn't wanted for 6+ years though and has become more of a meme than something most people want.

Well, sometimes they tease one skin fairly early and then the rest a bit later before the patch launches... but then again sometimes it is only one skin which can also suck :/

Naon4 votes

Honestly it feels very underwhelming considering they had a marvelous idea from a fan who created the original design. This feels very lackluster in all senses of the word. But hey, only took about 3yrs to finally release so I was expecting Legendary or Ultimate quality~

Keepe4 votes

Meh.

Forhonor3213 votes

Well, looks like I can cross Swain off my list (Hurray for no longer going 2000 without a skin and FINALLY GETTING DRAGONMASTER!)

Now for Urgot.

RainbowIcee3 votes

looks great, though the crown bothers me for some reason, seems unproportionate because of the horns thus makes it look a bit silly. Looks good though otherwise

Agent Corgi3 votes

Not wasting time with this one, our memes are becoming scarce.

Håkuñå3 votes

The skin concept is awesome, but 2 points bother me a lot:

  1. The color-scheme is terrible. Looks like a Dragonmaster forgotten under the sun over the whole summer time - completely paled out (both in dragon and human form). It does not invoke any strength nor mystic whatsoever. More saturated flames, darker blacks and, please, no orange-man oranges. He looks like if he had some kind of sickness or is hangover.

  2. The horns on his head look like Syndra, Kayn, etc. It just doesnt look well rounded and also a bit silly on top of that hair in my opinion. The concept looses its smoothness if you ask me, because it gives the impression of being forced. A dragon-like face, burning eyes, etc. would suffice to underline the dragon characteristics.

  3. Ok 3! He obviously has a terrible coiffeur.

I have bashed the concept a lot, but he is awesome! I just had to bash it, especially since it is a soooooo long awaited concept. Considering that, its a terrible outcome for that kind of anticipation and excitement.

Swain Main Out!

Swainey Todd2 votes

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH---

I mean, this is decent.

... AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

SomeStars2 votes

super cool but...

is it just me or is his recall weird?

AmazoX2 votes

[slayer-pantheon-rainbows]
#Amazing!!!!!!!!!!

SettDownShutUp2 votes

I could cry tears of joy right now.

Crows Before Hos2 votes

My babe finally <3

Clayblob22 votes

The best part of the skin is his ultimate

Sheogowrath1 votes

I was extremely excited for DM Swain for all the years I was a big swain player. However this concept was designed for the old (real) swain, and not this new champion with Swain's name. It doesn't fit the same way. This Swain possesses none of the wildness of a Dragon. He just stands up too straight, if you know what I mean. The old Swain having the dragon on his shoulder made him feel more like kin to the dragons. Swain relied on them because he was old and crippled. With this he just has dragons sprinkled into his particles. And change his hair for crying out loud! I feel like they chose to keep the hair on this skin just as a middle finger to the many people that wanted his hairdo changed. I'm rather underwhelmed. I always thought that this skin would be one I would break the bank to get the first day it dropped, even if it were Ultimate. As of right now there's no way I'd buy it. I hope they do some more work on it before release.

MalrothDragonia2 votes

dude, during his ultimate he does a full dragon transform. It also populates the map with MORE DRAGONS. It's gonna be sweet.

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