The Bios for Piltover's Cast are Live!
Take a gander folks!
Take a gander folks!
: Fucking perfect. 100% nailed the character. Nothing else can be said to emphasize perfection unless Vi was IV so Jhin could have an stroke from euphoria.
: Is a likable asshole. Well written and the color text made me laugh out loud in how he treated that kid. I like it.
: Doesn't steal the show from Vi but comes damn well close. Holy shit this is tragic and I love me some tragic champions.
I absolutely loved the lore for these characers. and Jayce's short story was hilarious and endearing. I was hit with way too many feels from Orianna's
100% agree, the Jayce story was perfect, and I feel like viktor's getting the short end of the stick for Jayce.... but I like jayce better anyhow HA! I hope we develop Amaranthine more... its such a neat name...
Edit:
Just read VI's new story....
"“Hey, Harknor,” she said to the desk-warden when she reached the cells. “What’s so important Caitlyn has to drag me from an erotic dream about—” “Ah, ah, stop right there,” said Harknor without looking up from his elevated desk as he ran a finger down the list of prisoners brought in during the night. “I’m not in the mood to hear another of your lurid fantasies.”"
Lol I main Vik actually but feel the lore has potential. Amaranthine is a fantastic name and I hope all future fan works of Jayce include her as a sort of adopted daughter xD.
I love Harknor and Vi's interaction. I feel as though I would love to watch a tv show where he constantly tries to correct her inappropriate behavior and she keeps ignoring it. Sounds hilarious.
Harknor is great! and I do agree with your Tv idea, but i think harknor would more be that one dude who is like "stop right there!" and cait is the mommy character "Vi mind your language!". He is in Caits story too, they both connect to the same story(Cait's first, Vi's second). If I had to rate my enjoyment of story to story for the Piltover champs it would be
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personally it would be Orianna first and then the same order as your list.
Im a guy who is more for humor than for drama, But I understand your choice!
I'd swap Vi and Jayce, but otherwise I agree.
's story was good, but it was nothing that really connected him to Piltover.
I don't think I can rate the Ori, Vi, and Jayce stories in any order. They all go for different goals -- melancholy, humor, and d'aww -- and each of them does its thing really well. There's a noticeable gap between them and the Cait and Ez stories, which are just kind of... bland.
I do wish Caitlyn and Vi's stories had the two of them actually interacting. The way they're written seems almost deliberately to avoid that: Cait is working with another partner, and Vi just misses Cait at the station. Is there some rule about not having other champs appear in a spotlight story? Because that does not seem like a good rule.
I agree with you about the unseen rule... I would like to see how summoners rift plays into all this though.
It doesn't.
well I mean... why are the champions in specific summoned to the summoners rift... I get they have daily lives, but I'd like some more plausible explanation and story maybe?
Summoner's Rift is an abstraction that lets us play a fun game with these fun characters.
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well I mean... why are the champions in specific summoned to the summoners rift... I get they have daily lives, but I'd like some more plausible explanation and story maybe?
I think it's something along the lines of Fate/Stay Night: The champions are dead and gone, we simply use them to fight for our causes by summoning them from death to fight for us?
That's a more interesting interpretation than the Institute of War, definitely. And if endorsed officially, it would open up some interesting possibilities for champions drawn from different time periods in Runeterra's history. (The fact that Riot seems to be focused on a distinct "present" tells me that this is not how they currently envision things.)
But the fact remains that we're summoning champions to play a weird little game with weird little rules on a weird little map. Summoner's Rift makes sense as a computer game, and nothing else. To me, trying to figure out exactly what it represents in-universe is like trying to figure out what the mechanics of Candy Crush represent in-universe. Just don't worry about it and have fun.
I don't think I can rate the Ori, Vi, and Jayce stories in any order. They all go for different goals -- melancholy, humor, and d'aww -- and each of them does its thing really well. There's a noticeable gap between them and the Cait and Ez stories, which are just kind of... bland.
I do wish Caitlyn and Vi's stories had the two of them actually interacting. The way they're written seems almost deliberately to avoid that: Cait is working with another partner, and Vi just misses Cait at the station. Is there some rule about not having other champs appear in a spotlight story? Because that does not seem like a good rule.
I think the writer wanted to develop the two as their own person, not a set. We already know a lot about them as a team, it was interesting to see how they worked without each other.
Vi has sex dreams? About what? ABOUT WHAT?!
I don't know, but apparently this one actually had a plot.
Now I'm imagining Vi with a collection of erotic novels.
About beating the ever-living crap out of people.
She's really into using those fists of hers.
Awesome all around, in my opinion. Especially Vi's which perfectly captured her character. So perfect, in fact, that it felt natural to read the color text in her voice.
However, I now would like to see a Visual Update to both Caitlyn and Orianna.
Caitlyn because I'm sure running around Piltover in a dress and high heeled boots can be bit.........problematic at times. Gotta keep the hat though.
And Orianna because she went from a machine replacing a girl, to a girl basically becoming a machine. She still retains some human aspects, such as gestures and emotions. Also, I think it's hinted at that the giant key in her back is no longer there. A visual update that mixes human and mechanical motion, instead of being purely mechanical, I think would be awesome.
That, and both champs models are severly outdated, harkening all the way back to season 1 and 2.
Sure, their models may not be in the most dire need, but it would still be nice.
From Camille's quotes Caitlyn has got to keep the skirt and the random belts. I'm fine with (un)losing the upper part though.
Or they're open to cutting those Camille lines. Otherwise they sort of paint themselves in a corner whenever they write tongue-in-cheek acknowledgements of the oddity of old content. "Am I supposed to be intimidated by a creature of such limited vocabulary?" --> "Welp, looks like we can't give Rammus a VO update."
I don't think you should give Rammus a larger vocabulary just like you shouldn't remove Cait's skirt and belts. The characters would be worse off if they were changed because they're good things. Caitlyn's skirt makes her design more unique and nicer to look at than if she were wearing full pants and a full jacket. It would make her seem more professional and stuffy, which is Camille's territory. Caitlyn spent her youth traveling and hunting, she isn't especially snobby. Outside of a legendary skin like Omega Squad Teemo, giving Rammus longer lines would gut his character. (More lines is okay though as long as they're never more than one brief word and fit his character.)
I'm not talking about turning Rammus into Hamlet (Rammlet?), but at some point they are going to want to give him more than seven lines.
And Cait's hella snobby, she's just got a sense of humor about it. An Oscar Wilde as opposed to Camille's Marquess of Queensberry. Whatever she wears, it's going to be the height of Piltover fashion with her own personal twist. And I get the impression from some of the stuff Rioters have said about her (and now some of the concept art showing other Piltovans) that they don't consider her current "steampunk convention booth babe" look to be that.
Me personally? I just want them to bring the old Safari Caitlyn splash art back.
Orianna specifically would also need updated VO because it doesn't really work with her new lore.
She's probably a ways off, though, as there are far more in dire need.
A new VO usually comes with a visual update. I think only Fiora and Shen have not gotten VO updates along with their VUs.
Caitlyn's short story has her expressing disdain for sugared pastries. Declaring not canon right now.
Caitlyn's short story has her expressing disdain for sugared pastries. Declaring not canon right now.
Ah, but it's disdain for someone else's pastries... :-)
Ah, but it's disdain for someone else's pastries... :-)
Even worse. Why is Cait not the one providing pastries for the Wardens?
More for herself.
Nonsense. Caitlyn is nothing if not generous with the products of her pastry oven. She even leaves them out for her opponents to eat.
When I showed someone who has never played league before Jayce, she said "Wow he looks like a dick"
God fucking bless. Spot on Riot.
I still wait patiently for Demacia and Noxus to get their focus.
I want to see if Garen's growing disquiet over the path Demacia's nobility is taking the kingdom leads to Rugged Garen becoming his exiled cannon. 
Wishful thinking has me wanting a Noxus and Demacia update too.
The problem however is although Demacia has very little lore for itself and its associated champs. It's Fiora and Poppy's Bio that pretty much explain everything you need to know about the Demacian Kingdom and it's people. And then Noxus... well Noxus was probably the most defined nation out of all the others before the retcon. And for the most part we know that a lot of Noxus's old lore is carried over into the new, so we still have a comprehensible understanding of how they work and operate as well.
TL;DR we all know that the least defined regions will be given the priority for lore updates and IMO Demacia and Noxus are already well established, which could mean they're not prioritized (assuming there is a priority).
Vi and Caitlyn are really great. It's cool that they kept the mystery of "C". For Vi, the mystery of her parents and her sister is still obsure, hope they will feed us some of it.
Pretty interesting that Jayce heard the Dreamsong. His story is good, just not my cup of tea with Viktor.
Ezreal is pretty nice. But what about the second gauntlet ?
Orianna is cool. They took a different stance towards her "humanity", but it has some pretty cool moments.
I loooooove how now Viktor and Jayce were like friends at a time, and I can easily see a "Civil War" Style fight between the two, with so much emotions. Iron Man and Captain America, Obi Wan and Anakin, <3
I've been appreciating the little ways they build up the interconnections of the lore recently, and the way they lay out some interesting teases. they've also been reinventing a lot of little bits of the characters in ways that make a lot of sense (C is no longer a superthief, now much more likely to be Camille, Ezreal no longer was some mage student)
some thoughts:
Orianna went from replica of a daughter to someone who replaced every bit of herself with machinery. this fits Piltover more but 1) I wont be surprised if its another lore faux pas with diehard orianna lovers, 2) Orianna and her dad can make a new brain but a heart is too complicated? we make new hearts all the time, your machine hands are way more impressive Orianna
Caitlin's lore does a pretty respectable job of marrying her lore status as a sheriff with her look and gameplay, which is much more that of a hunter.
Vi's lore has some teases about Jinx but I thought the most interesting thing was that her original gauntlets were basically Blitzcrank hands, and Blitzcrank is probably one of the construction golems mentioned in her bio. the bio skips over a lot though, in the name of telling that story later.
Jayce is Iron Man. Also curious what the crystal was. I guess I like the new ties to Viktor
Ezreal's bio is a little bit of a reinvention with a nice little arc to it- he no longer has latent mage powers, but hes a smart kid who doesn't need to work hard, until he does, blah blah blah. I liked learning a little about the glove and where it comes from.
Overall I wish more short stories would try to add a few more layers to each character, something I think they did well with Camille. But ezreal and vi, for example, have short stories about them doing very very 'archetypal' ezreal and vi things, where I think a bit of nuance that shows a new side of those characters might've been more interesting.
Yo, I had the EXACT same thought about Orianna (and even posted about it in another thread). I am expected to believe they made her a new BRAIN but not a heart. That's actually insane. The brain is INCREDIBLY complex, humans are STILL trying to figure out things about the brain.
I dunno, that's the only thing that bothered me, really. Everything else was quite pleasant and not jarring at all. I'm glad the ass-factor was turned way up for Jayce, I literally can't stand him and that is exactly how it should be.
The Crystal was part of a Dream Crystal from Skarners people, you can see Jayce describe the crystal as "Singing" to him, and that it is from Shurima.
oh thanks I totally missed the singing thing. still, kinda weird since I thought they figured out hextech like 60 years ago from those crystals. why would they be struggling with it now?
Well in the league world, Hextech is relatively new, and very very unrefined. Skarner just woke up when the first of his crystals were touched and he is now defending the actual nests. But this isn't a crystal that houses a Skarner thing (Forgot the name) its just a crystal made by the same species, probably a long dead and harvested one that was forgotten and leftover.
I remember when they said the goal was to preserve the champions initial identities as much as possible with the removal of the league. Super glad to see they've decided to completely abandon any pretext of that with Orianna.
Not like everything she says in game completely contradicts this new bio. Or the idea that the orianna in game is and always was supposed to be entirely different from the girl she was based off of. Her story doesn't even make sense with her physical design if the key was something to keep her living heart going and only her father could turn it, yet she also removes that heart in her story, and in game she turns her own key as her idle. Or why some charitable nightingale would turn into a killing machine that flatly states "yes, I am a weapon".
I wasn't honestly expecting riot to maintain consistency or give respect to the old characterization. They've been terrible about that almost across the board, but they could at least play a game with the champ before retconning everything.
I remember when they said the goal was to preserve the champions initial identities as much as possible with the removal of the league. Super glad to see they've decided to completely abandon any pretext of that with Orianna.
Not like everything she says in game completely contradicts this new bio. Or the idea that the orianna in game is and always was supposed to be entirely different from the girl she was based off of. Her story doesn't even make sense with her physical design if the key was something to keep her living heart going and only her father could turn it, yet she also removes that heart in her story, and in game she turns her own key as her idle. Or why some charitable nightingale would turn into a killing machine that flatly states "yes, I am a weapon".
I wasn't honestly expecting riot to maintain consistency or give respect to the old characterization. They've been terrible about that almost across the board, but they could at least play a game with the champ before retconning everything.
Probably gonna have a VO. Orianna was due for it for being so damn old. They're gonna remove her key too. And of course they'd have to change her completely, her whole point was to be a weapon to join the League of Legends in the place of the man's daughter. League doesn't exist, suddenly Orianna shouldn't exist, hence the ground-up change.
Which is a massive fuck you to anyone who genuinely liked and cared about the character as she was. It would have been easy to find another reason for the human orianna to have been killed and the champion to have been built as a weapon. Considering riot said multiple times that the removal of the league would be as seamless as possible without changing the characters at all, the fact that they go and do the complete opposite is pretty frustrating. How many champs have to be deleted and completely replaced to the outrage of their fanbase before riot stops tearing the foundations out of their half built house?
Which is a massive fuck you to anyone who genuinely liked and cared about the character as she was. It would have been easy to find another reason for the human orianna to have been killed and the champion to have been built as a weapon. Considering riot said multiple times that the removal of the league would be as seamless as possible without changing the characters at all, the fact that they go and do the complete opposite is pretty frustrating. How many champs have to be deleted and completely replaced to the outrage of their fanbase before riot stops tearing the foundations out of their half built house?
Well, to be fair, very few people actually voice it when they like something league does, but everyone is willing to rage about it. This is why, whenever there is a lore rewrok/vgu it feels like there is only hate. People loved DFG, people loved old Yorick, people LOVED it when their champion was broken, and simply having a machine killer for a champion has no place in universe Riot seems to want to build. An existence that is there only to kill with no goal is unrelatable and does not fit with the location they're tied to. Orianna being an augmented being is right in line Piltover seems to be taking. Frankly, the majority of the lore was short, not thought out, and tied to pocket instances in time and space in such a way that many champions would never have met. Riot's new vision seems to focus HEAVILY on interactions other champions, and I predicted this lore change when the Piltover rework was announced. Riot likes champions with heart, and well, Orianna had 0 personality, only around 7 voice lines, and somehow, there is still a lot of hate about updating lore. I enjoy a more fleshed out universe over a champion remaining a machine killer. While it may be sad to see them go, seeing a future where all the champions actually interact with one another seems a much more attractive proposition. + most people go for look and gameplay in a champion. Especially the older ones. You can tell in those entries that universe building wasn't part of the manifesto at the time.
You mean the old lore that had a central driving force to push the various different characters together that would otherwise have no reason to interact? Or the new lore that has each area group of champs segregated with a wrought iron fence so that various groups will never interact outside of the occasional edge case? The"augmented human" angle was viktor's shtick. Always has been. Orianna's identity as a purely mechanical entity was what made her unique, and a contrast to blitzcrank, who despite his inhuman appearance has a distinctly humane soul.
You mean the old lore that had a central driving force to push the various different characters together that would otherwise have no reason to interact? Or the new lore that has each area group of champs segregated with a wrought iron fence so that various groups will never interact outside of the occasional edge case? The"augmented human" angle was viktor's shtick. Always has been. Orianna's identity as a purely mechanical entity was what made her unique, and a contrast to blitzcrank, who despite his inhuman appearance has a distinctly humane soul.
Please, the Institute of War and Summoner lore really needed to be Retconned. It was essentially the player playing god with that world. Now while there are gods in that world, the human player should not be one of them. It also makes more sense when they interact now, instead of saying 'Hey I saw you on the rift, we killed each other top lane' now it's 'Hey, I fought with you against the Black mist during the Harrowing." I think the new lore gives a much better opportunity to get characters to give a real interaction without the summoner's interference. The IoW was such an asspull idea that I'm surprised it didn't exist in like Fairy Tail or something. Also, Viktor's Shtick wasn't augmentation, that's like saying teemo's shtick was being a Yordle. His shtick was being a scientist who believed that augmention would cure human weakness, that it would better humanity. Orianna did not hijack Viktor's area at all; instead, she provides him with confirmation: augmentation is the future of mankind. Orianna's was born from necessity, Viktor's will be done for the purpose of evolution. Orianna is still purely mechanical-not a trace is left of the old body she had. I feel like a former person in a robot's body is a far more interesting deal than a killer robot made to fulfill a dead girl's dreams. We don't even know Blitzcrank anymore, he's a Zaunite whose lore is going to change in the Zaun update. The old lore was very short, full of holes, and didn't give a shit about being a cohesive universe. The new lore binds the champions together.