Void Culture

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Does it exist?

We don't know much about the Void beyond a small pool of explicit answers and a significant amount of speculation. Very few have explored the Void, and those that do are not open to discussing what they discovered or have no interest in conversation at all; Malzahar and Kassadin being the former while the Voidborn are the latter. What we do know about the Void as a location is that it induces madness in human minds exposed to it, darkness is prevalent and natural according to Vel'Koz, and that a number of varied, yet highly specialized, creatures inhabit it.

However, while information on the Void is limited, data on those that call it home is more readily available, and it is the commonalities between them I wish to bring up.

Most, perhaps with the exception of Rek'Sai, Voidborn are capable of speech. It can be argued that Cho'Gath, Vel'Koz, Kha'Zix, and Kog'Maw are not actually speaking, and that the voices we hear in-game are simply there to provide a more familiar experience than the incoherent sounds of a monster. In spite this possibility, I firmly believe that Voidborn are capable of real speech, and by extension, capable of forming complex thoughts.

It may not seem like much, that these horrible monsters can speak, but this potential for communication in foreign tongues suggests that perhaps there is another language Voidborn are capable of communicating in, one humans may not be fully capable of comprehending. Perhaps it is a sophisticated combination of sounds, pheromones, and bioelectric pulses (Vel'Koz and Rek'Sai are capable of producing naturally occurring electricity). Whatever the case may be, if a language exists, someone or something came to define it.

If everything I have outlined is true, and it may not, then the potential for Void culture and society exists, as anyone will tell you, the easiest means of facilitating some semblance of common ground is through language.

So I ask, does some form of Void culture exist? Do the Voidborn possess a society that is, while incredibly alien, nonetheless a structured existence? If so, what do you think it is like? Perhaps there is some strange type of hierarchy or even aristocracy where superior Voidborn are granted social privileges that may include eating their inferiors? Perhaps one Voidborn takes advantage of its malleable anatomy and treats its body as a living work of art. Maybe there are intricate hives in the Void with otherworldly architecture.

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Sharjo11 votes

I would assume that the Void's organisms exist in various sub-cultures determined by their individual species, with broods growing and developing independently. Some broods are specialized for a specific environment or specific activities while others are extremely broad in scope as to what they can do. If we look at two Voidborn; Rek'Sai and Kha'Zix, we see one is specialized for burrowing and digging, while one is capable of adapting to any potential environment.

I'd say that the Void is sort of a primordial soup of development and alien growth that exists in constant flux, with species growing dominant in one area and then being supplanted by another species that evolves a way to take them out. "Omnivorous" voidborn like Kha'Zix exist as the prevention to stagnation in the evolution; if one species gets too dominant the highly adaptive species grow to combat it and even out the playing field again, allowing for other species to emerge.

Then we have the Voidborn who are capable of speech, but intelligence isn't a binary measurement that only a being ability to speak determines. Kog'Maw of course is young so he could potentially grow smarter, but I feel like he won't, as his biology doesn't need him to be much smarter. Kha'Zix is similar; his thoughts are sharp, quick and to the point. Nothing inefficient, even in his mind. It's not what we'd say is "smart" but in reality Kha'Zix is highly intelligent in his own way. He doesn't actually need to be smarter, and being smarter actually defeats the point of his very existence.

On the other side though we have Cho'Gath and Vel'Koz who are probably the most intelligent of the five. Vel'Koz is intelligent, but he isn't that different to other voidborn like Kha;Zix and Kog'Maw; his smarts are simply to allow him to comprehend the nature of things he consumes. It is his purpose after all. Then we have Cho'Gath, who is clearly intelligent to the point of being malevolent and sinister, something we don't see in the others. Sure they all wanna ripe your face off in some manner but Cho'Gath isn't as simple as that.

He's careful and crafty, and I honestly think that's not in his species that's him growing outside of his means. He's not supposed to be like this by the nature of Voidborn; it's inefficient, unnecessary. But he has grown that way regardless. He has lived, survived and grown enough to evolve past other Voidborn and comprehend beyond simply knowing. He understands things. he knows about emotions in humans, about how creatures behave and he knows how to torment people simply with words.

On the other side we have Rek'Sai, a creature who doesn't speak and while she has some intelligence, being capable of eliciting enough joy to actually laugh about things, she is primitive. I feel as though this is her personal adaptation to Shurima, in that as the dominant predator of the region, intelligence isn't required. The Ascended are scattered, Shurima's armies have long fallen, there's no competition for her. It's her world. She developed in areas that would allow her to maintain her status as apex predator, and lost abilities that were meaningless to such a being, including the ability to speak in a language understandable to humans. This is inherited by her children, and will likely persist until something forces the Xer'Sai as a species to adapt once again, but they haven't had to do that in god knows how long.

Overall I'd say the Void is a place that doesn't so much have structure as it has an ecology that is smart enough to know what it's doing. The Voidbeasts that are the cream of the crop are supplanted by beings that grow specifically to counter them, while other species know to avoid such things. The entire Void exists in a state of organic change and species likely don't stay around in the same incarnation for very long. This changes when they come to Runeterra though, as the environments are more stagnant and development is slow. Some Voidborn are old and powerful, and as such are vastly different to the rest in terms of mentality and biology, but all in all I don't think there's a specific "culture" for the Void, merely an environment. A play ground for the development of monsters that can etch out a living within it.

Also as a final note, I personally think all the Voidborn names we have are Shuriman words. I personally doubt the Void has its own intelligible language. They may screech and bellow and can respond well to visual stimuli but it probably varies between species or something to that effect.

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

Just a small thing but I don't think Vel'Koz is that different from how Cho has gone beyond what is required of his species in that when he does his taunt, he creates a sort of monitor that displays symbols, this suggests that he has some kind of language or numerical system made by either him or some culture of the void or perhaps just his species. Kha too seems to have started to go off the rails a bit in that he's acquired an obsession with killing Rengar, something he doesn't need to do to evolve.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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Just a small thing but I don't think Vel'Koz is that different from how Cho has gone beyond what is required of his species in that when he does his taunt, he creates a sort of monitor that displays symbols

Nautilus flies with his joke and Ekko gets an smaller body... i dont know if those animations are "canon" outside of the game

A Superb Villain1 votes

But what if they are?

Chespin20131 votes

my god that was brilliantly written

RiotWhren6 votes

I can't promise anything concrete, but these questions and discussion is very awesome and I'm reading it and keeping tabs on it and taking notes. I hope we can do this part of the world justice for you guys.

Might I ask, when the Void comes to mind (....heh), what are some of the broad emotions or feelings you think you might feel?

EDIT: I've also been loving these other threads, too:

Theories on the Politics of the Void Void Lore Broken Down Understanding the Void

Alljoy4 votes

Lovecraftian seems to fit.

A Superb Villain4 votes

The problem I have with the Lovecraftian connection is that the Void does not appear incomprehensible enough to sufficiently meet the standards set forth by Lovecraft's literature.

Lovecraftian is often used to describe a setting wherein humanity has no value, being human means nothing. The world could vanish in an instant, and not only would mankind be helpless to stop it, but the entities involved with its destruction would not even notice.

When I think of something Lovecraftian, I think of this:http://25.media.tumblr.com/0118a0129ac430e1f1914ea9dbfd5479/tumblr_mvrny2MIbD1rni5lso1_500.gif

What we can perceive is so limited by out state of existence that what can be seen may only be the barest fraction of a monster's form, the dimensional equivalent of it dipping the tip of a metaphorical finger into our reality. It is something so alien, so otherworldly, that attempting comprehend the thing in its entirety would lead to madness or death, no exceptions. It cannot exist in our world, it should not exist in our universe, but somehow it defies all rational laws that we understand, which further implicates our understanding of the universe is flawed, and exists in spite of them.

Lovecraftian works make man small, inconsequential, and completely ineffectual. While the Void does make Runeterra feel small, it does not do so in the same way.

Champions from the Void are flesh and blood, they operate on a biological foundation that we can mostly understand. Most importantly, they can be overcome, and not just with armies, sophisticated magic, or advance technology, but on an individual basis.

Perhaps there is more to the Void than we are currently aware of that would fulfill the criteria of a Lovecraftian setting and the Voidborn are the rough equivalent of parasites or bacteria, a not too complex organism that happens to exist in the shadow of much more significant beings.

As it stand now, the Void merely has Lovecraftian vibes. It's a dark reality with scary monsters, but little more.

Mansana4 votes

I feel loneliness, corruption, decomposing... best example would be Dark Aether from Metroid Prime 2: Echoes.

Cuix5 votes

When I imagine the Void, I imagine a complexity far beyond anything that is being brought to Runeterra. The Void is not a single nation or city-state: it's a collective. A half-dozen different cultures, maybe more, all part of something greater. The only broad emotions that can fit are "other" and "watchful", as the various factions of the Void discuss and decide how they will approach Valoran. Some want to incorporate the cultures they find, and speak through prophets like Malzahar. Some are interested only in consuming resources, like Cho'Gath and Kog'Maw. Some wish to study and preserve, like Vel'Koz. There is, however, no singular "Void culture" that actually accounts for the whole Void in any meaningful way.

RiotWhren4 votes

Personally am intrigued with those words, 'other' and 'watchful'. It's a different feeling than the first-impression words that jump up at the mention of the Void -- kind of implies a less violent consciousness than just RAWR and TEETH and AM HUNGRY, yet one that is knowing as well. Very cool!

Captain Aishi1 votes

when I think Void I think Eldritch Abominations

Void denizens do things that are generally atrocious and painful to the non-void, and they do so in a manner and for a purpose that the non-void cannot even remotely comprehend (I get a bit of a Roadside Picnic feeling to the void 'monsters')

TerraRising2 votes

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Might I ask, when the Void comes to mind (....heh), what are some of the broad emotions or feelings you think you might feel?

First thing is "Champions inspired by other games." Specifically, Starcraft.

  • Cho'Gath is an Ultralisk
  • Kog'Maw is a Hydralisk
  • Kha'Zix is a (modified) Zergling
  • Rek'Sai is a Roach
  • Vel'Koz is a Brood Lord

Seriously, the feeling I get from the Void is "organized chaos."

What I mean is that, in the realm of the Void where anything and everything is possible, from a void puppy to a floating one-eyed anime monster, there is a sort of hierarchy that most of the inhabitants follow.

Captain Aishi2 votes

I really don't get these starcraft references, ChoGath is much more Violator from spawn, Khazix is a Xenomorph from the Alien franchise, Velkoz is a beholder (although Kogmaw does have a spore crawler in its jaw) and reksai is a reference to the best movie ever, Sand Sharks!

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

Fear. Instinct. Desire. Drive.

redniwediS1 votes

To me there's just a general feeling of uneasyness. The Void creatures that have shown themselves are fascinating in their design and purpose, however the Void itself is so much of an unknown. We don't even know if the Void is a place or a thing with it's own plans.

I guess it's similar to that feeling you get when alone in a dark house after watching something that scares you. You know you're safe, but you just can't shake that feeling.

SpecterVonBaren6 votes

Hunger. It's the one thing that every Void being has in common. Kog hungers for food because of his apparently insatiable stomach, Kha also hungers for food but he hungers for it to get stronger, Rek'Sai hungers for food for the same reason an animal does, for survival, Cho'Gath has a hunger for prey to increase his size but he also seems to relish tormenting others, and Vel hungers for knowledge. Even Malzahar tells us something about this hunger in that, either some being or perhaps a greater power behind the Void hungers for expansion into other worlds.

If there's anything that we can gleam about the void from the inhabitants we have, it's that it wants, and what it wants is everything.

Mast3rMahan1 votes

Terror/Fear, Hunger, Conflict, Hunger/Desire.

Helmight2 votes

To me, the Void CANNOT be knowable. It should remain forever enshrouded in darkness, with only the creatures it produces being our only visible representations of what it really is. Ideally, the Void isn't another world, but rather a thing - some kind of ancient, malevolent presence that is another dimension of reality entirely. The Voidborn are its chosen creations, and they lead the assaults that the Void makes on other planes of existence. Voidspawn and Voidlings are smaller entities that are at the beck and call of the Voidborn, and have no sentience. All Voidborn however - including Rek'Sai, because I refuse to believe that she is nothing more than a mindless beast - are immensely intelligent and wise beyond reckoning.

If you've been following MTG's story at all, think of the Eldrazi - beings beyond our comprehension and full of powers we don't understand, but still mortal in the conventional sense.

ZylotheWolfbane5 votes

So, the Void is easily my favorite place in the League universe, with Shadow Isles close behind.

The Void has a very clear over-arching sort of concept among its champions. Consuming. Whether it consumes flesh, or knowledge, it wants to eat, to devour, to take over, to obtain. However, what each creature wants, and why, is very different. Cho'Gath eats so that he can grow stronger. Kog'Maw eats to 'meet' and 'experience' the world around it. Kha'Zix eats to evolve, to improve itself. Vel'Koz 'eats' to obtain knowledge, to learn, to expand its knowledge. Rek'Sai is the only one not fully explained, mostly because anyone that tried to ask about it was promptly eaten.

However, the Void is clearly not a land of mindless destruction, it does not consume without reason, it does not destroy, or ravage without purpose. It is not a mindless place. Malzahar is perfect proof of this. The Void has touched him, granted him power, and essentially uses him as its servant in Valoran, and Malzahar himself offers the Touch of the Void to others, gaining a following, granting power. The Void has goals, it has plans, and it is not merely some stupid, mindless force. The Void watches Valoran, sends through creatures, tests the world, and, if Void Fizz is actually pseudo-cannon(As in it is a possible outcome for Fizz) it may want to take over, and control, or change the creatures of Valoran.

The thing that intrigues me most about the Void is thinking about its potential 'government' or 'society', is it ruled by an all-powerful Lord, or King that directs them? Are they commanded by a central hive mind? Do they have a council, or group? Are they an army of pure individuals working together merely because it furthers their own goals? Do they have a monarch? A Canceller? A President? Is there a Void Obama? Do they have homes, or belongings? Do they CARE about homes or belongings? Do they have any sense, or care for anything other than their particular 'Taste' for what they consume?

The Void is so intriguing, because there is so many possibilities, it's such an alien world, an alien society, a place that we cannot even think to understand, and I REALLY hope that stays there, I don't WANT to fully understand the Void's goals, desires, society, inner workings. If I understand it, that ruins it. It should be impossible to truly understand, otherwise what makes it any different from Zaun, or Demacia, or Bilgewater? It's just a different place with weird people then. Which would be incredibly disappointing.

Rebonack2 votes

What feelings does the Void invoke for me?

Other, alien, ineffable, insatiable, unstoppable.

From Koggy's lore we know that Void creatures don't simply enter Runeterra, they manifest, implying that whatever they were before is wholly incompatible with existence in Runeterra. I like to imagine that guiding intelligences behind the Voidborn are what you might call more real than real. When the Voidborn raze a world to its foundation for their own ineffable reasons it isn't out of malice, far from it. Those in charge simply don't care about all those lives being lost. Not because they're bigger and more powerful and more ancient (they are certainly all those things), but because from their perspective these little material folks aren't real. It would be like shedding a tear over the countless virtual lives lost after several games of Pandemic. In that vision, beings from the Void can only interact with Runeterra via avatars (the Voidborn) because they can't exist in a fantasy world any more than you or I can.

Which is, of course, why we interact with each other via Champions.

It makes a nice little bit of cognitive dissonance, don't you think? That we might have more in common with the eldritch abominations?

So the Voidborn are avatars. The Voidlings would be, what? Simple self-running scripts? Koggy's 'Daddy' would thus be whatever awful thing he's an extension of. A fractal fragment of a horror too vast for Runeterra to contain. As for their culture, who's to say? Are all the Voidborn avatars of the same being, but simply different aspects? Are they avatars of different creatures with different goals and purpose, but a common unifying desire? It's hard to say. And really, I don't think it should be said.

The writers get a lot of flack for making champions 'oooooooh mysterious!', but in the case of the Void I feel mysterious is exactly what they should be. We're dealing with things mortals ought not know, and as Kass can attest, knowledge comes at a price.

Tesla Effect1 votes

More like Darwinian culture, survival of the fittest.

Alljoy1 votes

Perhaps one Voidborn takes advantage of its malleable anatomy and treats its body as a living work of art. Maybe there are intricate hives in the Void with otherworldly architecture.

Or maybe said hives are voidborns themselves that exist in that realm.

GinoSoldier1 votes

Well, on another spectrum, i think the void is much more about primal feelings/instincts than actual intelligence for most, what they are, or become is a result of those bases. If i were to design a void champion i'd look at the seven sins and pick a theme. Cho'gath and Kog'maw? Gluttony. Rek'sai? Wrath/Pride. Vel'Koz? Greed. Kha'Zix? Lust/Greed. Feel free to mix some of those around as you will. Where Shadow Isles embodies life and death, Void is feral nature evolved.

We need Envy and Sloth based champions tho!

As far as Kassadin and Malzahar go, they're humans. How they're affected by the void would largely differ based on their personalities and exposure to the void itself.

My five cents on that.

cHAncEman12921 votes

I personally see Cho'Gath as a sort of "terraformer" . We get the since that the void wants to invade this world - perhaps they have a Mass Effect Reaper type place in the cosmos or maybe their just from a different dimension? I believe they're the sort of force that comes to "reset" the balance of power. All this prep and scout work I believe is to bring in creatures like Cho'Gath to reshape the land into something that the voidborn can use.

Also with the recent lore updates it starting to seem that the void is less of an alternate dimension than perhaps a realm beneath the Shuriman desert - as evidenced by Skarner's new lore (he guards a portal of some sort) and the fact that the names of the voidborn are Shuriman.

Lysdexic11 votes

To me, i think we only have a glimpse of one aspect of the void: the warriors. It is possible that even within the void, some of these creatures are not natural. If the voidborn creatures we know of are all created for a specific purpose, who is creating them? Already they are displaying signs of a hostile race ready to take over the area of another culture. They are studying us Velkoz Malzahar . They are sending in creatures who can adapt to our weaknesses and exploit themKhazix RekSai . They are destroying our supplies and whittling our forces Chogath KogMaw. I believe what we are seeing from the void right now is nothing more than a scouting party, reporting to a higher power within the void through their conduit Malzahar. Now, this says very little in the way of void culture but we do know this much: They are capable of complex, strategic thinking. They no doubt have their own versions of generals and people giving those generals the orders to invade. I cannot see these leaders as being elected because of birth, nor being elected officials. I believe the void has a ruler based purely on strength. What this also means is that the leader may change fairly regularly, unless the current leader has overwhelming power even within the void. It truly is a place based around survival of the fittest. The only way to secure your place in their world is to be stronger than everyone else around you. There are no court politics, and your allies only stay such until the mutual target is dead and eaten.

Lulwy1 votes

I think the biggest thing about the Void is that its outside our understanding. Not as something the people of Runeterra could learn, but something so drastically alien that any attempt to understand or learn about it would be wholly futile. As a whole, the Void and its creatures are rough yet- in some ways- organized, ex: the strong lead, and in theory that could be any creature of the Void, but its generally a pretty consistent leadership. I would imagine that in this leadership, there's what we would think of as greed or- presuming the creatures of the Void existed in ancient Shurima- a desire for vengeance. They want everything there is, everything there ever will be, and ultimately the greatest enemy of this structure is itself- for example while Rek'sai is a Voidborn like Vel'koz, Cho'gath, Kha'zix and Kog'maw, it's a clear stretch to call her their ally. I would imagine species like the Xer'sai are reasonably common, actually, and in a sense they are probably the most predictable force in Void culture precisely because you can trust them not to cooperate for some greater goal.

It would also be pretty reasonable to assume that, while we may consider Voidborn like Rek'sai or Kog'maw to be unintelligent, it's entirely possible that Rek'sai (and after some growing, Kog'maw) would be considered brilliant by Voidborn standards. While Vel'koz and Cho'gath surely show more intelligence in the sense that we would measure it, the Void probably has an entirely different standard defined partially or entirely by success or efficiency. In that regard the absolutely gargantuan Rek'sai and efficient Kog'maw could very well be considered geniuses in the sense that we would consider a painter or writer a genius despite their intelligence being of a drastically different form than, say, a physicist.

I think in order to define what Void culture_ is_, we would be better served by defining what it is not. At all but the highest levels, it probably isn't rigid, but the highest level of it has probably been rather well established and would consist of creatures like Rek'sai and possibly Cho'gath. It isn't something that would make sense to the people of Runeterra barring a few like Zilean, Kassadin and Malzahar- and the last is probably debatable given his insanity. We can also probably assume it isn't something that can be reasoned with as their goals are fundamentally opposed with Runeterran existence. It might be helpful to think of the greater creatures (Rek'sai the only one we're aware of at the moment) as something close to gods, the pinnacle of existence as far as the Void is concerned, with the rest being akin to believers in this case. Put simply: while Rek'sai is simply a larger, stronger Xer'sai, her strength puts her so far above her peers they might as well be ants in comparison. And likely, the Void is filled with countless more examples of this- there is almost certainly a larger, more powerful eyeball monster than Vel'koz, with the only possible exceptions being creatures like Kha'zix whose strength is adaptation and change likely actually being somewhat more vulnerable as they get older and inevitably more rigid in their development.

I certainly think there's more going on than just a bunch of mindless beasts who want to destroy everything for the evulz, but given what little we have to work with, it's impossible to say exactly what's up with the Void beyond it having some sort of organized hierarchy and wanting to- to the extent it concerns most people, anyway- raze Runeterra.

Axests1 votes

i thought majority of the void was made up of monsters that only live to eat and destroy

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