The Piltovan gunsmith Theory.

Wrathof300··6 votes·613 views

As we recall from the Burning Tides event, Graves had lost his one of a kind shotgun. However, he shrugged it off mentioning that he knew a piltovan gunsmith. Recently we had some interesting development with the Urgot rework, SHOTGUN KNEES! "Urgot isn't a gunsmith you idiot, awful theory!" No, what's interesting about Urgot, is the description of those shotgun knees "Attacking in the direction of one of Urgot’s legs causes that leg to combust flames outward", this is how Riot described Urgot's shotgun, I'm going to go out of my way to assume that Graves' would be described to work in a similar fashion (obviously the source of combustion being the reaction of the gunpowder and not necessarily intending that Graves' gun is shooting out flames). There is one person from Piltover that we know of, that it would make sense if they specialized in such inventions/ creations... Ziggs. It would be a major leap, from what he currently is, but what he currently does, (imo) doesn't fit in with the new Piltover. The old lore didn't even really expand, on what he did as the Dean of demolition, so it is difficult to say, how cemented Ziggs' 'plot-hook' is. The last I recall, a rioter mentioned Hiemer has a workshop in Piltover, and it sort of one of those places, where no one knows who works there, but its always been there and just sort of blends in. I'm not sure whether or not they confirmed that Ziggs works with Heimer, but assuming he does, that sounds like the perfect place, to get a one of a kind, magical shotgun, to me. We could even go as far as to assume that Ziggs could have invented/ (introduced to Runeterra) ballistics on a whole with this theory, as we know yordles live for what would be centuries (based on Poppy's and Kled's lores). A master of ballistics and master gunsmith, no doubt a shot gun made by him would be anything less than legendary. Also, it would be a neat way to introduce Graves and TF to other characters, that you wouldn't expect them to run into (whereas, its a guarantee they'll bump into Vi and Caitlyn), then that begs the question, would Graves know Ziggs is a Yordle? It would be funny if TF saw through Ziggs' 'glamour' while Graves is unable too. TF: "Your gunsmith is a rat??" Graves: " He's a hairy old man, but calling him a rat is going too far bud... You're the only rat here." TF: !!

As of now, Piltover has very little need for weaponry such as bombs (should Noxus invade. In the future, this would change) so why his he in Piltover making bombs? I have no doubt that the lore team would be able to answer this question once they sit down to discuss Ziggs' new lore, however, I hope if any Rioter happens stumble on this post, they take it into consideration whenever Ziggs' lore will be discussed in the future. I don't even play Ziggs, but I think this would make for an interesting new lore, I'd like your feedback on this theory, whether or not you support it. ^_^

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Chembaron Yamada3 votes

One major theory is that yordle are actually major ideals of their region represented physically. Kled as the Noxus ideal of strength comes to mind. Poppy as the brave, but humble hero. Kennen as one of the members of the kinkou, who stand for balance (major theme of Ionia).

If that is true, I think Ziggs would fit representing Zaun and its mad scientists. Just like Heimerdinger is the responsible science of Piltover.

Wrathof3002 votes

I thought so as well. Ziggs is a scientist, willing to experiment even if there is a 99.99% chance its going to blow up in his, face. But (probably due, to Zaun, being portrayed as the 'evil/mad' science city in the old lore) Ziggs had been affiliated to Piltover and that hasn't changed after the retcon. Tbh, I doubt Zaun, would want Ziggs blowing stuff up and making the Zaun Grey, worse, lol, but like you pointed out, this would have been a nice way to tie him to Zaun, so there might be a chance he ends up there after his LU.

Krabohod2 votes

That's pretty cool theory. But: Graves' gun do not use gunpowder. And I think both TF and Graves won't see through glamour. Cause both of them doesn't see the world like Ziggs. And that's, it seems, the main factor to see through glamour

Wrathof3002 votes

I meant the gunpowder, in the bullet. I was betting (lol) on TF's innate magic, to allow him to see through Ziggs' guise.

Eternal7912 votes

I'm sure Piltover has mines. That said, I could see Ziggs helping out with that, using his explosives of course.

Wrathof3002 votes

Hmm, however, Piltover and Zaun, are technically one place now, and there have been mentions of Zaun mines, I skeptical as to whether they'd have 'Piltover mines' especially since more than likely the two mines would link up, so only one name would be needed for the mines.

Edit: unless the those are two different types of mines, then Piltover could have its own mine.

Eternal7911 votes

Considering Piltover and Zaun don't really like each other, I could see Piltover having their own mine. Plus the Dredge is closer to the bottom of Zaun, which seems to be pretty far from Piltover; leaving plenty of room for another mine.

Wrathof3002 votes

I agree, but the whole thing about Piltover, is that, its there because it makes its money through trade, and export of technology for import of other goods and materials, so they don't need their own mines per se.

An example would be the fact that hextech crystals are actually brakern crystals from Shurima, Piltover is a place comfortable getting their materials from abroad, otherwise the Crystal scar would have been included in the new lore.

Eternal7911 votes

True

FlameHalbrdOkido1 votes

"would Graves know Ziggs is a Yordle? It would be funny if TF saw through Ziggs' 'glamour' while Graves is unable too. TF: "Your gunsmith is a rat??" Graves: " He's a hairy old man, but calling him a rat is going too far bud... You're the only rat here." TF: !!"

hmmmmm. PERFECT. made me laugh. BTW anywhere where i can find more about this glamour thing?

anyways bombs are as Ziggs title implies useful for demolitions which is great for a city of progress like Piltover because I bet its not rare that old buildings are taken down to make room for new ones. Additionally Piltover is also a merchant city/society, they could possible sell the weapons they are not using to places that need them.

Wrathof3001 votes

Hmm, now I'm really interested in what Riot does with Ziggs' lore. As for the 'glamour' thing I can't really link you anything specific, as yordle lore on a whole has yet to be completely fleshed out. However you see it in effect in Poppy's short story as well as Tristana's short story.

Edit: Think of the glamour as a magic ability all yordles have. This ability allows them to 'disguise' themselves as humans, but they aren't actually transforming, its more of a magical barrier that prevents them from being seen as yordles, unless they wish to be seen, or unless the person they are interacting with can see through it. So in Tristanna's story you'll see them mistake her for an old woman, because they can't see through her 'glamour', in Poppy's story she is actually the hunter she was looking for, but she didn't realize, since they yordles don't know what their Glamours look like.

FlameHalbrdOkido1 votes

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Hmm, now I'm really interested in what Riot does with Ziggs' lore. As for the 'glamour' thing I can't really link you anything specific, as yordle lore on a whole has yet to be completely fleshed out. However you see it in effect in Poppy's short story as well as Tristana's short story.

Yeah I am 2 though I don't think they will put him in Zaun I'll check out their short stories, do u think glamou is a conscious thing or unconscious.

Wrathof3002 votes

I would assume its a conscious thing, since they should be able to take it off however the Trist and Poppy stories say otherwise (as if they didn't even know they had it) maybe because they are young, and themselves don't know how the power works. Yordle lore is really sketchy atm, that's why even Sharjo only told you the basics, because beyond that everything else is more or less speculation.

Though, something interesting I noticed recently, Amumu's lore has 3 different stories, 2 where he is a child emperor and one where he is a yordle, but based on what we know about 'glamour' Amumu was probably a yordle emperor with a 'glamour' that made people see him as a child, hence why there are 2 stories of him being a child, but only a handful of people would have seen through his 'glamour' hence there is only one yordle story.

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