Viktor's new lore...

Glory ln Death··31 votes·2,018 views

Isn't out yet.

Please stop freaking out and blowing everything from Jayce's lore out of proportion. Remember - this is Jayce's lore. About Jayce. It's written based on Jayce's perspective, and we don't get anything from Viktor's perspective except right at the very end (kind of). The purpose of his bio is to explain how Jayce became "Jayce, the Defender of Tomorrow", not Viktor's story.

Remember who Jayce is - a stuck-up, arrogant little genius prick who only really cares about himself and his own genius. Of course we're going to be missing a lot of information about Viktor - even though they were friends, do you really think Jayce is capable of a deep, meaningful friendship? I seriously doubt that Jayce paid real attention to Viktor as a person, rather than just an intelligent colleague.

He basically says it himself:

Viktor was the closest thing Jayce had ever really had to a friend

There's a few big topics that I'd like to address that are just blatantly wrong, as well:


  1. "Riot made Viktor hate free will" - False. Viktor was not opposed to free will:

Viktor’s design for the next version of the suit included a chemtech implant that would increase the wearer’s strength output by tenfold, while also preventing them from getting tired, panicking, or disobeying instructions from their superiors. While Viktor considered this feature a brilliant means of reducing the frequency of construction accidents, Jayce found its indifference toward free will immoral.

Viktor was not on some rampage to remove people's free will and enslave them as his own personal robot army - he simply was willing to infringe on it if it meant helping people in other ways (reducing injuries, deaths, and property damage from construction accidents). He was essentially following the motto "The ends justify the means".

  1. "Viktor starts out as a villain now" - False. First off, we don't even know the beginning of Viktor's story. We only know about him after Jayce meets him. I'm anticipating Viktor having a much deeper "Pre-Jayce" story than Jayce's "Pre-Viktor" story. And on top of that:

While Jayce sought to improve humanity via versatile technology, Viktor sought to solve problems inherent to humanity itself, such as physical decay or illogical prejudices. They constantly argued with one another, but their conflicts never got personal – though their methods were different, the two colleagues knew their ultimate goals were very much the same.

and

[Victor had] finally learned how to achieve his dream – how to eradicate disease, hunger, hatred. If Jayce joined him, the two would accomplish more than anyone from Piltover or Zaun could have dreamed of: they’d save humanity from itself.

Viktor certainly does not begin even Jayce's story as a villain. He is working towards the same goal as Jayce: helping humanity improve and advance. Again, he simply believes the ends justify the means more than Jayce does.

  1. "Viktor is a murdering psychopath" - We don't know that! There is no explanation of where the bodies in his lab came from, or what happened to the people - they could very well have been volunteers. Remember - Viktor has been working on this project for a long time - probably years. He has likely been working with the local Zaunites to advance his research - and since his work is intended to help people, he probably gets quite a few volunteers trying to find some way to improve their (honestly pretty awful) lives in the slums of Zaun.

Don't forget that the Glorious Evolved are willing to dismember themselves. I'm pretty sure there are people willing to transplant their brain into a robot.

  1. "Orianna one-ups Viktor and took his 'first fully-machinized-human' theme" - False. This one is from Orianna's lore, but it's pretty easy to disprove. There is very clearly a difference in timeline between the lores.

From Jayce's lore:

As Jayce studied in solitude, Clan Giopara’s explorers discovered a raw, blue crystal deep within the Shuriman desert.

A strange crystal from Shurima? That has a massive amount of power inside it? What could it be? Well, it's obviously a Hextech crystal, right? But why is that special, and why don't they call it that?

Because it's the first one. When Jayce and Viktor's story takes place, hextech hasn't yet been created.

Jayce and Viktor were only able to use the crystal as a power source - they hadn't yet started making the complex weapons and machines that are referred to in other stories. In fact, the Progress Day short story tells us:

A hextech crystal. The crystal is no bigger than her thumbnail, but it is the future. This is what could make the clans of Piltover rulers of the world if they so desired. Or, if not them, whoever can craft it more efficiently and without the years of work to produce a single item.

It apparently takes ridiculously long to actually make anything using hextech crystals, and they are clearly not a common item, even during the time of this story (Tamara has never seen a hextech crystal before - it's likely that the leading clans control most of the crystals). And yet, a tinkerer in Zaun with no close ties to the powerful clans is able to obtain one.

The fact that hextech crystals are even legally available to the general public tells us that this is years, probably decades, after Jayce and Viktor's story. Don't forget that Camille fell in love with a highly skilled artificer of hextech crystals when she was young-ish (probably late 20s to late 30s). She's now 80. That means hextech has been around for at least 40-odd years. Orianna is no one-up of Viktor.

Assuming Camille and Orianna even happen in the same time period, as well.


So, please. Calm down about Viktor and see what happens. We'll get his side of the story and find out what actually happened and who he actually is.

Honestly, this seems pretty in line with Viktor's "neither good nor bad", "gray area" theme all his fans want him to have. Working passionately towards a cause to help humanity, but doing so in a controversial way. "The ends justify the means" and all that.

But who knows. We'll find out soon enough. So wait and see.

22 Comments

Ebonmaw Dragon3 votes

I dont care about the Point of View of Jayce, the thing that annoys me more is the FACT that Viktor is now a Piltie that studied in Piltover instead of being born in Zaun... I Guess that no one else cares about that, but I DO.

HE IS NOT A REAL ZAUNITE ANYMORE

Glory ln Death3 votes

We don't actually know that.

My personal theory is that Viktor was born in Zaun, studied and did as much as he could in Zaun, but ultimately reached the point where he couldn't progress there, so he worked his way up to be able to get into the Piltover scientific community, despite being a Zaunite.

That would explain why one of Viktor's goals is to "solve... illogical prejudices" and "eradicate... hatred". Piltovans are obviously pretty prejudiced towards Zaun (all good Piltovans know not to go to Zaun if it can be helped, Piltovan clans aren't likely to take in a Zaunite apprenta, Piltover annihilated half of Zaun for profit, etc), and if Viktor grew up in Zaun he would have felt that keenly.

It would also add to why the other scientists disliked him so much - he had weird ideas and he was from Zaun.

SolarisCorvus3 votes

Vik is like what ekkos parents want him to become. Vik was probably a young genius from zaun who got recruited into one of the clans in piltover and of course viktor would take that chance to study amongst the best.

50000000000000001 votes

It's possible, but not hinted at. He's probably just born in Piltover now.

SolarisCorvus1 votes

Well i belive that he has to be from zaun. Cause only in zaun would vik see the imperfection in man, where you have more gangs fown there and mad inventors.

50000000000000001 votes

But Jayce also sees the imperfection in humanity. Which is how those two bonded in the first place.

6FlagsFunnelCake1 votes

He was probably just studying in Piltover, just as Ekko's parents wanted Ekko to do and as one of the characters in the. Also, since Viktor's lore is coming very soon, it's %100 percent going to release in the ZAUNITE event with the ZAUNITE Champions from ZAUN that are born in ZAUN...BORN IN ZAUN...

Ralanr2 votes

Wait, doesn't that make Jayce ridiculously old if that's the first hextech crystal?

Glory ln Death1 votes

Yep. But I think it's pretty cool that not everything important in the League Universe is going on right now. It would definitely be interesting for some of the legends to be... legends. Like, all they've got now is stories of their glory days. Maybe some of them even died a while back.

Insanity Song1 votes

Sorta like Braum and his lore being told as a childs bed time story

SolarisCorvus2 votes

Isnt it hinted that braum is simply a iceborn like lissandra who has just lived for a long time.

Insanity Song1 votes

Unless im blind i dont think so

SolarisCorvus1 votes

It depends if you yake taunts as canon.

50000000000000001 votes

Given that he can manipulate the true ice shard in the door, it's not impossible.

Ralanr2 votes

I'm not sure that's the case with Jayce and Viktor

Glory ln Death1 votes

Nah. Maybe we'll get a story at the end of the Zaun lore update with those two in rocking chairs at a retirement home reminiscing about the good old days during their rivalry before they resolved their differences and Viktor's human enhancement thing caught on.

Well, I guess Viktor wouldn't be old, though...

SolarisCorvus1 votes

But what i really want to know is how is skarner gonna get all his people's shards back if some are in plitover. I really hope he puts on some silly disguise to sneak in.

Mogarl1 votes

Perhaps when shattering the crystal the arcane energy released caused Jayce's aging process to slow greatly. Combine this with the energy that radiates from the Shuriman Shard, and Jayce could live much longer than the average person. He is also probably someone that would have looked really good well into his 60's too. So he's probably a smug asshole to all his colleagues that became old farts while he looks like he's in his early 30's.

(Captain America + Tony Stark) - any positive personality traits = Jayce

Glory ln Death1 votes

It's perfect! Not only are his colleagues incompetent when it comes to science, they can't even age right!

DragonShea1 votes

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Perhaps when shattering the crystal the arcane energy released caused Jayce's aging process to slow greatly. Combine this with the energy that radiates from the Shuriman Shard, and Jayce could live much longer than the average person. He is also probably someone that would have looked really good well into his 60's too. So he's probably a smug asshole to all his colleagues that became old farts while he looks like he's in his early 30's.

(Captain America + Tony Stark) - any positive personality traits = Jayce

true that. I don't really like Jayce because of his arrogance. he is not malicious or uncaring but god does he need someone to kick the shit out of him.

50000000000000001 votes

That's why Viktor has so many fans kappa

Mogarl1 votes

I think the time thing is a likely problem with the overall perception of the story. A few of my problems with the story could be resolved if it was 60 years ago. If Jayce's aging has slowed due to exposure to the crystal, then his short story would have taken place around the same time as the rest of the bio.

The thing that still bugs me is the obvious short-sights of giving supervisors complete control over people with 10x normal strength. For someone tht were to believe is so aware of prejudices and the like it seems odd to me that Viktor would ignore the inherent flaws of giving someone complete control over another.

Eventually you're going to get a supervisor that tells a bunch of workers with the suits to go rob a bank.

Of course there is the possibility that there was no short-sight, and that Viktor had plans to deal with possible abuse of the system. Temporarly alter a few Zaun dockworkers no big deal, say that the supervisors also need a treatment and suddenly you get kicked out of Piltover.

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