Can We Have More MALE 'Magic-Born' Champions?

6FlagsFunnelCake··66 votes·4,281 views

So you're probably reading the title thinking "The hell is a MAGIC-BORN?" It's essentially a term I'm using for people who are BORN with magical abilities in Runeterra. So on that note, I've actually been noticing a strange pattern, almost all 'Magic-born' are Female and can't control the extent of their powers. For instance: All the Females with this type of trait in their lore are

Lux Taliyah Syndra and now Annie

Strangely enough, our only REAL Male Champion that was just 'born with magic' is actually Yorick. Strangely enough, Yorick is actually noted to have the ability to talk to spirits since he was a little boy, and a Rioter answered somebody on the boards questioning the origins of his powers and essentially gave the answer "Some people are just born with magic" (Magic likes to cling to physical matter in order to stay in the physical world, and that can sometimes apply to people). Some other possible 'Magic-born' are people like Ryze and Vladimir, but even THEY had to learn a bit before getting their powers.

The new Annie lore is absolutely stunning, and I loved Lux and Taliyah's lores as well, but don't you think it's getting slightly repetitive with the same pattern of "I was born with Powers, I can't control them, I faced consequences for it"?

EDIT: So I see some people are sort of misinterpreating what I first said, so let me explain: I'm asking for specifically more HUMAN males that are born with magic. BORN with magic. Sure Yordles, Vastaya and even Voidlings are magical, but they're ALL magical, it's in their nature to be magical! The only humans that this semi-applies to are the Ionians, yes some are sort-of born with magic, but it's mostly an Ionian thing since magic is just so prevalent in their society And lastly, theres a difference between GETTING magical properties and being BORN with it. For one, most Champions have some other feature to them that gave them their powers: Xerath had to learn his magic over time and get ascended Ryze is unclear on whether or not he was born with his abilities, but a big schtick of his is that he had a master who taught him how to use the same magic Malzahar may have had prophetic vision powers as a boy, but that's unclear for his current lore and, as far as we know, he's all void-corrupted

181 Comments

Reiizm56 votes

I've wanted a young male mage since forever

NineTailedMystic1 votes

[deleted]

ShaolinToilet15 votes

Then don't search for it?

YuGiHo1 votes

me too, i think the closest we have is ez or rakkan?

50000000000000003 votes

I guess, since all Vastaya are born with magic. That would mean Rengar and Wukong are also born with magic, but that doesn't really fit the archetype OP is looking for.

KoKoboto5 votes

Used to be Ezreal but they retconned that :T

JarodDempsey4 votes

im glad they did because ezreals magic is really boring. q: shoot magic at enemy, w: shoot magic at enemy, e:blink hmm k not bad...shoot magic at enemy, r: shoot lots of magic at enemy. yawn.

KoKoboto2 votes

That's your headcannon tho.

GreenLore42 votes

Technically it is possible that Garen was actually born with magic abilities. I mean his ult is a giant sword of light that comes down on his enemies and Swain comments on how he carries magic into battle without realizing it.

CleverCactus5 votes

Is that possibly a reference to Lux's lore? Garen doesn't know that Lux has magic abilities.

GreenLore14 votes

But Garen doesn't carry Lux into battle....

Though some people have suggested that Swain might be talking about the petricide armor&sword.

HonestJohnTheCon1 votes

I don't think Swain was being literal. Although the petricite may also be what he was talking about, because I don't think Garen has magical abilities.

GreenLore10 votes

Well how would you interpret the quote anyway else? Besides it is possible that magic affinity is to some extend genetic(Annies mother was a witch and Annie herself was born with magic because of that),so if Lux has magical abilities,then maybe Garen has them as well.

Also how else would you make sense of Garens ultimate?

Vistha D Reptile1 votes

It most likely doesn't mean shit now, but when Rito was asked all those years whenever Syndra's parents were magic users or not the answer is they're not, so maybe it depends.

GreenLore7 votes

That can simply mean that while magical talent can be passed down,it can also happen at random.

So the chance of being born with natural magical talents is higher if your parents had magical abilities as well,but it is not required to have magical parents.

50000000000000001 votes

It could also refer to Galio.

GreenLore5 votes

If that was the case,then why would he direct that quote only at Garen? Garen has most likely never seen Galio activate and its not like Garen personally uses Galio.

Boulderox6 votes

{quoted}

Technically it is possible that Garen was actually born with magic abilities. I mean his ult is a giant sword of light that comes down on his enemies and Swain comments on how he carries magic into battle without realizing it.

isn't there a swain line with garen that talks about this? https://youtu.be/IaGaqTW6QPQ?t=129

GreenLore4 votes

Thats what I meant when I said that "Swain comments on how he carries magic into battle without realizing it"

TehNACHO17 votes

Let's not forget DFGaren and all its former glory.

redniwediS12 votes

Runeterra is an odd place, and it seems like a lot more people are born with innate magic than realize it. Swain has an interesting quote about Garen being ignorant of the magic he carries into battle, and while that could be explained away by Garen's equipment his ability to summon a giant sword made of light to smite his foes with seems a little odd for a champion who is so adamantly against magic.

I think the main thing here is some magic born champions are naturally more powerful than others, and only a few have powers that manifest themselves in a way that forces their user to learn them.

HonestJohnTheCon6 votes

I don't think too many people have magic. Riot described the odds as "one-in-a-million". Hyperbole? Maybe. But it's still pretty unlikely.

Then again, champions are the most powerful people from each area, generally speaking. It wouldn't surprise me.

Chromatic Eagle12 votes

Twisted Fate was born with his magic. Jhin uses some, but idk if he was born with it. LeeSin maybe?

HonestJohnTheCon7 votes

Jhin was born with it. He first used knives for his 'art'. His gun is hextech, and probably the most powerful hextech weapon currently, because it A) uses Ionia's vast reserve of natural magic and B) is fueled by Jhin. He crafts each bullet separately with his magic, causing the special effects to occur when a victim dies.

Jobriq6 votes

{quoted}

Jhin was born with it. He first used knives for his 'art'. His gun is hextech, and probably the most powerful hextech weapon currently, because it A) uses Ionia's vast reserve of natural magic and B) is fueled by Jhin. He crafts each bullet separately with his magic, causing the special effects to occur when a victim dies.

His gun is shit cuz it can't increase it's attack speed (/s)

HonestJohnTheCon8 votes

Who needs attack speed when you have perfection?

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

Four bullets are more than enough for anything that moves.

Dragon Master2 votes

{quoted}

Four bullets are more than enough for anything that moves.

6 bullets actually. Don't insult the greatest handgun ever made.

6FlagsFunnelCake11 votes

I think that it's more natural for Ionians in general. I wouldn't say that Jhin was exactly born with magical capabilities, but it's just that magic is just so much more common for just about anyone in Ionia. Plus, I thought it was mentioned that it's more the Gun and/or Bullets that are magical in nature, probably because of him (or more specifically, because of Ionia).

Also, completely forgot Twisted Fate. I think he counts, but it's also mentioned that he was 'taught' the magic by the nomadic river people.

Lady Faceless4 votes

It is still his own magic, his gun and the bullet just his way to use it. Even if Ionia has a lot of magic, the most human won't be able to use it anyway. There are ways to make it useful for human, but this bring a different kind of problem - Vastayan need these natural magic.

The thing with Lux, Annie and Taliyah is that their magic already took a specific form. They already have a strong connection to their own innative magic, but also they are probably unable to learn other types of magic. Twisted Fate probably could choose in which direction he would go.

Also, Malzahar had his vision before his contact with the Void, so he probably has some innative magic as well.

Skins Project1 votes

Lee Sin was a very talented mage in OG lore, Basicly tried 2 do magic beyond his ability & burned a village & killed tons, repented & went blind w/e

Jobriq6 votes

[{quoted}](name=Skins Project,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Ix5B32j9,comment-id=000400010001,timestamp=2018-02-02T01:48:39.769+0000)

Lee Sin was a very talented mage in OG lore, Basicly tried 2 do magic beyond his ability & burned a village & killed tons, repented & went blind w/e

iirc he was a Summoner (remember those guys?) for the League.

Skins Project2 votes

Summoner to be due to his skill, they were willing to take him even after his slaughter, but he choose to try to redeem himself by lighting himself on fire in protest ._.

Jobriq2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chromatic Eagle,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Ix5B32j9,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-02-01T21:51:32.872+0000)

Twisted Fate was born with his magic. Jhin uses some, but idk if he was born with it. LeeSin maybe?

Didn't TF get his powers through some magical experiment shit or was that his old lore?

RisenFromTheAsh3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Chromatic Eagle,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Ix5B32j9,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-02-01T21:51:32.872+0000)

Twisted Fate was born with his magic. Jhin uses some, but idk if he was born with it. LeeSin maybe?

Maybe it's Maybelline

Nagoh Shan11 votes

Zilean as an Ithacan mage, likely magical from birth

Malzahar Claims to have had clairvoyant abilities pre-corruption which is what led him to Ithaca

Garen According to hints from the new swain VO

Swain Himself may in fact qualify depending on how this new lore shakes out.

Ryze Probably qualifies. Most stories with magical learning require the individuals have some level of innate magical aptitude

soopcan7 votes

You're telling me Malzahar went to New York?

HalfTangible5 votes

Judging from his VO Swain gets his powers from a demonic raven.

Garen's "magic" seems to be his armor and weaponry.

Ryze seems to be the studying sort of mage; in dnd terms he's a wizard where we're looking for sorcerers.

Though, Xerath and Nasus both qualify. People tend to forget this since we only see their current forms, but both were powerful mages/scholars even before they ascended.

Placentas5 votes

Pretty sure it's Icathia Not Ithaca.

Ithaca is a small college hippie town in upstate NY LOL

Nagoh Shan3 votes

Eye halve a spelling chequer It came with my pea sea It plainly marques four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.

Eye strike a quay and type a word And weight four it two say Weather eye am wrong oar write It shows me strait a weigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee fore two long And eye can put the error rite It's rare lea ever wrong.

Eye have run this poem threw it I am shore your pleased two no It's letter perfect awl the weigh My chequer tolled me sew.

Placentas2 votes

Lol, delightful.

Blaiz Fenix3 votes

Rakan Malzahar Udyr Ornn TahmKench Maokai Veigar

Ebonmaw Dragon5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Blaiz Fenix,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Ix5B32j9,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-02-01T23:08:46.593+0000)

Rakan Malzahar Udyr Ornn TahmKench Maokai Veigar

I think that the op is talking about humans, only 2 of them are and most of the magic of Malzahar comes from the Void and the magic of Udyr comes from the spirits if i remember correcly.

Camille Ferrøs1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Blaiz Fenix,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Ix5B32j9,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-02-01T23:08:46.593+0000)

Rakan Malzahar Udyr Ornn TahmKench Maokai Veigar

Malz was corrupted mid life not born with magic.Veigar is a yordle a magic made creature,Tahm is a demon also walking magic , mao and ornn and rakan too

Lady Faceless2 votes

Malzahar still had visions before he had any contact with the Void. His bio even says so. "Malzahar was born a seer, blessed with the gift of prophecy." Prophecy also sounds pretty magical to me.

W Flynn3 votes

Swain TwistedFate Yasuo Zilean

GreenLore7 votes

Swain got his magic powers through a pact with a demon and it was never said that Yasuo actually uses magic,it seems to be more like a technique.

And I'm pretty sure that we don't know how Zilean got his magic powers,he might have been born with them,but he might have gotten them in some other way.

EDIT:Actually I just reread TFs lore and it only mentions how he was "taught" his magic,so he doesn't seem to be some special prodigy.

Violet Fields2 votes

No one ever mentions Kennen like what the hell?

Edit: Wait, did they change his lore? This is stupid. They basically Galioed him, and made the lore worse by making it as basic as it can be.

Edit Again: Nevermind, it's in the Biography.

6FlagsFunnelCake2 votes

Yordles are all naturally magical and adept in the spirit realm. Kennen especially.

Violet Fields2 votes

{quoted}

Yordles are all naturally magical and adept in the spirit realm. Kennen especially.

So Ziggs is considered magical because he engineers exploding bombs that he throws at people.

More from Story, Art, & Sound

More by 6FlagsFunnelCake