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We now have 5 teams that can do either VGU/New Champ so.. many VGU!!!

Killaburn··31 votes·1,653 views

Just like the title we will now have 5 teams that can do either new champ/VGU. So by next year, we can assume that we can get many of those 2 but i have a petition, why not add another team to make it 6. would it be nice to sped up the processes. By that, we can assume it like this. Now that urgot is ready for live 6 months prior today is january (bec it will take up 6 months to create a VGU/new champ) so the next VGU/new champ is in January and the team is now up for a new development and by my petition we could get a schedule of this adding the 6th team.

Jan - VGU (team 1) Feb - VGU (team 2) Mar - New Champ (team 3) Apr - VGU (team 4) May - VGU (team 5) Jun - VGU (team 6) Jul - New Champ (team 1) Aug - VGU (team 2) Sep - VGU (team 3) Oct - VGU (team 4) Nov - New Champ (team 5) Dec - VGU (team 6)

By this way we could sped up the VGU's, make plenty of time not go to waste and make it more balance(by slowing the making of new champs to give way to VGU's and after the all VGU's are done we can have many more new champs in the future so a little sacrifice is much needed). And Iám aware that GU teams are diff from VGU/new champ teams and also i know eve is the next VGU.

PS: OMG!!! 9 VGU's!! so now we can see the VGU's of nunu,swain,morde,pant,akali,malp,fiddle,cho and kayle/morg in 1 year!!

23 Comments

Krabohod11 votes

I absolutely agree with you. Your scheme is looking great. Riot should def use it.

The thing is that we have too many tier-1 candidates. And there is something that needed to be done about that. And it's not even mentioning some Tier-2 candidates that look and sound like shit, that will not see any work with rate the same as now till 2020. With primary examples like Cait, Veigar, Blitz and etc.

And that makes me real sad.

Killaburn1 votes

thank you for understanding and i agree with your opinion.

Valor Bot8 votes

Think it'd be nice if they increased their VGU cadence in favor of getting all those Tier 1 champions out of the way. Their survey/data collection says the community's split on that matter though, with half preferring new champions and the other half preferring VGUs (aside from those who don't mind either way).

Monotachi2 votes

But they never actually release the data on those 'surveys'. We are simply trusting their word. Like with the Urgot release, a very polished VGU, I thought it was basically a new champion (most newer players don't even know who Urgot is tbh).

Like Xayah & Rakan, I don't see them much anymore.

Blakiepug2 votes

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But they never actually release the data on those 'surveys'. We are simply trusting their word. Like with the Urgot release, a very polished VGU, I thought it was basically a new champion (most newer players don't even know who Urgot tbh).

Like Xayah & Rakan, I don't see them much anymore.

Not every new champ will hook on to the same player base. And with Xayah and Rakan being this year's only new releases up until now with Kayn's release, you can't exactly say players don't like the new champs simply because you aren't seeing them in game. Because on the same scale, I could tell you that I don't see Galio and Yorick much anymore so players must not like VGUs.

I am one of those players who much prefers new champions to reworks. I like to see new faces and meet fantastic new characters like Tahm Kench, Taliyah, Aurelion Sol. The main issue I have with reworks is that, as you point out, the new Urgot might as well be a new champion (though I actually think the new Urgot does a good job of capturing a modernization of old Urgot). The difference is that a champion is being removed from the game for a rework, which I honestly didn't realize was happening until we saw how different the new Yorick looks and plays. When he was released, the old Yorick essentially ceased to exist. For me, it really hit home with the Galio update. Galio was the first champion I ever played in League and I enjoyed playing him from time to time as an AP burst mage. Not only did the VGU completely alter his personality and the cool gargoyle thematic he had going on, but he was pushed into being a tank instead of an AP caster.

You just have to remember, with reworks there is the risk of severely alienating players who play whichever champion is being changed. With new champions, they can only hook new players in and won't feel like a slap in the face to certain portions of the player base.

Monotachi2 votes

True. I guess the 50/50 split is the conservative approach to this to please everyone.

Killaburn2 votes

just like i said riot just needs to sacrifice 1-2 years so that they can accomplished not to do VGU's in the future and does 138 champ not enough for you? honestly, VGU looks like new champs tbh

Mogarl4 votes

In theory it would all be very nice and orderly, but not all VGU's take 6 months. some might take 5,7,8 or more.

Killaburn1 votes

ah ok noted :D

HalfTangible3 votes

If they COULD do this, I'd think they'd've done it already

Killaburn3 votes

but they just announce it already that 5 teams that can do either VGU/New Champ but i don't know if they started this already.

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

It takes time and quality to develop a team, and lots of coordination. You don't want a champion done poorly because an inexperienced team is trying to meet deadlines. 5 is fine. People just need to be patient.

Blakiepug3 votes

Only 3 new champions a year? No offense, but they should honestly balance out the quantity of VGUs to new champs. For one, there are players like myself who prefer to meet new characters and are sometimes let down by reworks. But then also, if Riot were to just rush out as many VGUs as they could, then they could very quickly lose their purpose for existing in the first place. What I mean by this is that VGUs are meant to bring old champions who are showing their age into the modern era. With that many VGUs a year though, it would very quickly get to the point where champions that are generally popular and accepted in their current form are getting reworked. At which point change is being done just for the sake of change.

SanKakU2 votes

I'm with you man. So many VGUs and GUs are coming out right now and I feel like they're getting rushed out and are poor quality and half of them are making me with I could get my IP refunded for these champs.

Killaburn2 votes

Please just a sacrifice, just like i said riot just needs to sacrifice 1-2 years so that they can accomplished not to do VGU's in the future and does 138 champ not enough for you? honestly, VGU looks like new champs tbh and after they finnish VGU's they can consentrate making new champs which is a win-win situation and 3/4 new champs in a year is not bad imo.

Blakiepug1 votes

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Please just a sacrifice, just like i said riot just needs to sacrifice 1-2 years so that they can accomplished not to do VGU's in the future and does 138 champ not enough for you? honestly, VGU looks like new champs tbh and after they finnish VGU's they can consentrate making new champs which is a win-win situation and 3/4 new champs in a year is not bad imo.

If a VGU looks like a new champ, then that is a major failing of the design team imo. This means that we are losing a member of the League roster in favor of something new. This is exactly what happened in Galio's case. If you just look at him visually, then you would think the old and new Galio completely different characters. This means those players who liked the old Galio, just had their favorite champion deleted from the game. This doesn't happen with new champion releases. No champions are sacrificed for another.

Garentheon2 votes

I love this guy

Killaburn1 votes

i love you too <3

AmetDeCrypt2 votes

rito question

is my main lulu somewhere on that list of VU/VGU?

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

Your concept shows a 75/25 split in favor of VGUs. As far as I know, that is not happening that soon.

It got mentioned that they will split new champions and VGUs evenly, then increasing the amount of VGUs slowly over time. Having a 3 times as many VGUs as new champions next year is not gonna happen.

And I am actually ok with that. While I have many champions I want to see reworked (like Dr. Mundo and Rammus), I enjoy new champions as well and I would like these 2 things to be balanced. And let's be real, no VGU coming in the future is ever gonna beat shotgunknees Urgot. :P

TwitchInMyPants1 votes

I think it takes longer than a month to finish one of these, it has to go through live balance and animation teams depending on how much is changed. Also from what I understand the new champion team is entirely seperate from VGUs, they want both to have active progress instead of shifting them around and it keeps everyone on the same page.

paisy1 votes

I like new champions but I do agree that we should have more VGUs for now

ScarletSurgeon1 votes

I think team 1/2 might take longer for the vgus. I'm not expecting the champ after eve before march, because there is preseason, Christmas and such in between.

However, I absolutely agree with you that the Champion Updates should have priority over New Champs as we are heading towards the 150 Champ mark soon. If Rito manages to produce 7 VGUs I will be pretty satisfied.

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