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Gangplank Disable Clarification

Manwalrus··2 votes·1,279 views

I've heard alot about how GP was disabled due to a bug and I can't seem to find out why people think this. It's been clearly stated by the Rioters and the lore and the client itself that he was disabled because he is dead, not because of a bug. I'm aware of the Draven bug but this isn't really gamebreaking or bad enough to warrant a disable. Also he was disabled as soon as act 3 came out. For any of you not keeping up and want to read it here's the link: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/site/bilgewater/#story-3

SPOILER ALERT

If you want a summary because you don't feel like reading it, here's what happens. After being captured by Gangplank, Graves and Twisted fate are to be made examples of and after realizing that Graves messed up they join together again but the cannon they're tied to gets pushed into the sea and they both end up in the water and escape, It's then revealed that MF blew up Gangplank's ship for revenge and that Gangplank is presumed dead though she does say that they need to bring back his corpse hinting that he probably survived. Besides his ship is gone, they'd have to disable him because he can't ult anymore. That's about as close to a gameplay reason there is.

The other reason is that this is the bilgewater lore event, not some random patch where nothing is happening (every other patch) the lore is actually getting serious and involved with the game. For those of you that don't read the lore, each player is a summoner and they summon champions to fight for them over various disputes, however the champions have lives outside of the league of legends and they're all alive (well except GP presumably) and if one of them were to die they could not be summoned anymore and since Gangplank is dead/missing, he cannot be summoned thus cannot be played in the game (also why the GP announcer is gone).

Want more evidence? Let's look at some Red posts: There have been MANY Riot posts on this and all of them say GP is disabled due to the lore event and not a bug! They even made him a memorial at Riot HQ and all of them say the same general thing, GP wasn't disabled due to a bug it was because MF blew him up. This one from Meddler in particular summarized everything:

GP's not disabled because of a bug, he's disabled because Miss Fortune blew him and his ship up.

We've disabled champions plenty of times in the past for bugs and I'm sure, alas, will have to do so again in the future. If we're disabling due to bugs, we'll let you know.

What time in the past has Riot disabled a champion due to a bug and said it wasn't a bug? Never. Why would Riot go through so much trouble and write a crap ton of lore to hide a bug? They wouldn't and I bet you wouldn't either. Take off your tin foil hats, there's no conspiracy here.

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ba7dKiyvKn3 votes

ITS SO DUMB THEY DID THIS

lore sucks in this game and they actually disable a hero over thel ore fuck thati this is isdfo stupid im so mad I'm just going to feed in my games.Ekko

Manwalrus2 votes

Rumble and Viktor being disabled for a whole patch while they were on the free champion rotation didn't cause nearly this much of a stir. It's not dumb, the old lore was bad and they're (finally) fixing it and making new lore and the game (should) revolve around the lore because it gives a reason for the game other than random people fighting over random things in a random place for some reason. We're finally getting the new lore Riot has promised for so long and there's community backlash. I just don't get it.

Valaran Nara2 votes

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Rumble and Viktor being disabled for a whole patch while they were on the free champion rotation didn't cause nearly this much of a stir. It's not dumb, the old lore was bad and they're (finally) fixing it and making new lore and the game (should) revolve around the lore because it gives a reason for the game other than random people fighting over random things in a random place for some reason. We're finally getting the new lore Riot has promised for so long and there's community backlash. I just don't get it.

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DrMarshSwamp2 votes

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Rumble and Viktor being disabled for a whole patch while they were on the free champion rotation didn't cause nearly this much of a stir.

Thats because they were legitimately bugged and weren't taken out of the game for near a week for no reason other than Riot deciding to do a neat little tie-in that should have lasted only a day, maybe two at most.

Gangplank's rework has been out for about a week (maybe longer) and he has been disabled for nearly as long, with any word whatsoeever from Riot being jokes about how he is dead rather than actual answers as to when he'll be back.

Manwalrus1 votes

Well since most of the community believes they were legitimately bugged then why is it an issue? Secondly the lore and the game are connected not seperate so it's not really a tie-in and it'll last until GP is found (it's been hinted he'll live). It's unfortunate GP died after his rework. Riot doesn't know when he'll be back because they don't know whether or not he's alive but he's presumed dead and can't be summoned. Also Rumble and Viktor were disabled for so long they were added into the free champ rotation the week after. Not to mention when Zed and Riven were disabled the community rejoiced. And Riot isn't making jokes, Gangplank is presumed dead so he can't be in the game while he's dead.

Valaran Nara2 votes

I only have one question...

"What's a summoner?"

Manwalrus1 votes

Hopefully we'll find out soon.

Narasimha1 votes

The main issue is that if it really is just for Lore, then it is an absolute HORRIBLE idea by Riot. GP's rework JUST came out. They had an event which involved him pretty heavily. People were lining up to play him. And then they disable him for 4 days, because of lore? That's just plain retarded. All the positive vibes the got from the event turned sour by the third day. One day is fine. Two is pushing it. But three or more is absolutely unacceptable. Hell, he's been disabled almost as long as his rework has been out. If it's a genuine bug or problem, that's fine. Just tell us. But because they keep insisting that its because of lore, it's making the whole thing worse. Even a child would know better.

Manwalrus1 votes

This whole event is a lore event meaning it centers on what happens in the LORE. That's not retarded that's Riot making immersive lore and good lore. Gangplank is unfortunately dead/missing so Riot and the players have to deal with the fact that he can't be summoned, not to mention you can still play 125 other champions. The thing is it's not a bug and they're not doing this to cover up a bug if you read my post you'd see the meddler quote saying "if it was a bug we'd tell you" There's absolutely no reason for them to cover it up if it was a bug they'd say so. Even a child would know that.

Narasimha2 votes

And heres the chief thing. Lore should be immersive. It should NOT be disruptive. More people than not don't care about the lore. They just want to play Gangplank. Keeping him disabled for what is now the fifth day is a straight up insult to them. It's basically saying that they don't care about what we want. They will run things their way no matter what. They are practically stating "Hey, it's cool that you're a GP main, but we don't want you to play him for a few days. Want to play ranked? Too bad. Want to enjoy that skin you just got? Sucks to be you. Want to play one of the main character of the event, IN the event? Hahaha, that's a good one."

The thing is it's not a bug and they're not doing this to cover up a bug if you read my post you'd see the meddler quote saying "if it was a bug we'd tell you" There's absolutely no reason for them to cover it up if it was a bug they'd say so. Even a child would know that.

I'll take a guess, you believe everything the government and news tells you too, don't you? There is a PERFECT reason for them to cover up a bug. Because they don't want to look like they're changing their stance. At this point, it would make them look wishy-washy. It's more than likely that they planned to have him out for one, maybe two days. But five? You don't keep a champion out of play for that long unless something is wrong. So either 1) There is a problem and they're refusing to admit it or 2) They genuinely are keeping him out of play because of lore, which is much much worse.

Manwalrus1 votes

It's not an insult. GP died in the lore and is thus dead in the game too. There aren't too many GP mains out there and I'd hope that some of them played other champions. This is sort of a silent majority vs vocal minority sort of thing. Your guess would be wrong I do NOT believe everything on the news or what the government says, I'm not sure why they'd go through that much trouble to cover up a bug. The reason I believe Riot was because in the case of every other disable worthy bug ever Riot told us that they were disabled due to a bug, they don't have a track record of deception (like the news and govt.) thus I'm more inclined to believe them though I acknowledge that Riot isn't a perfect company but they're not nearly as corrupt as the community makes them out to be. 1. What reason do they have not to admit it 2. Why is that worse? Games are nothing without a backstory, really.

Narasimha1 votes

It's not an insult. GP died in the lore and is thus dead in the game too.

You.. do know the lore and game have been disconnected for a while now, right? Which kind of makes it worse, come to think of it.

There aren't too many GP mains out there and I'd hope that some of them played other champions.

See, this is where you're missing the point. Some people like playing certain champions. Some people like playing them a LOT. For example, I play Pantheon whenever I get the chance. I'd consider him my main. It isn't the same playing someone else, no matter how good a champion it is. I'd be fine if it was a bug. But if they kicked him out because he died in the lore? I'd be pissed beyond belief. That's not only costing me my interest, but hurting my ranked gameplay as well. THAT is unacceptable. If you want to signify he's dead, then keep him out of his game mode. Don't hurt everyone else as well.

I'm not sure why they'd go through that much trouble to cover up a bug.

Like I said, because admitting they have bugs or other problems now would show them as being weak. It would mean they would actually have been lying to us. Wouldn't you keep up the deception if you were in their place?

The reason I believe Riot was because in the case of every other disable worthy bug ever Riot told us that they were disabled due to a bug, they don't have a track record of deception (like the news and govt.) thus I'm more inclined to believe them though I acknowledge that Riot isn't a perfect company but they're not nearly as corrupt as the community makes them out to be. 1. What reason do they have not to admit it

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they're corrupt. This isn't some huge scheme out to get us or ruin our lives. Honestly? This is Riot making a mistake and refusing to admit it. And THAT, they have a lengthy rap sheet of.

  1. Why is that worse? Games are nothing without a backstory, really.

I fully agree. But games work WITH the lore. The lore should never outright hurt the gameplay. The game should always come first. I've never played WoW, but I imagine an event that did something like "A plague swept through the land. Everyone's mounts are now dead and gone forever." would be pretty interesting lore wise, but would be shit for gameplay.

Manwalrus1 votes

If this event has proved anything it's that they're connected again. The point is sort of that you get pissed because the champion you're trying to play is unavailable, if that weren't frustrating then I don't know what would be. What would Riot care about being "weak" they never have before, and bugs aren't shameful or anything to hide (IMO that's the PBE players' fault not Riot's) and having bugs isn't a sign of weakness. Then comes the subjective part really, is keeping a champion out of the game because they're dead/missing a mistake or not? There's not really a right answer to that. I see what you mean on the next point but once again it's subjective as to whether or not they went TOO far though I don't agree with the quote because Riot made it kind of obvious that GP survived, it just isn't confirmed yet also the epilogue has just been released adding some more interesting discussion to the whole event. I wouldn't say having 125 champions instead of 126 is really shit for gameplay either, it's just one champion for half a patch, he'll probably be back next patch (I'm sure he ate oranges and was k). The bottom line is Riot had no reason to hide a bug, they've never had a reason to do that in the past and I doubt they'll do it in the future.]

EDIT: SOOOO, this is awkward, turns out that the epilogue proves GP is alive but lost a limb and he'll be re-enabled before the event ends on the tenth and you can get a free skin if you already own him and play a match-made game with him before the end of the event: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/special-event/gangplank-returns-and-event-end-draws-near

Tesla Effect1 votes

Yeah, I would have believe it if I havent experienced the game breaking bug with his ulti upgrades myself. Its messed up, one that many people would have complained and raged even more than the Fiora shit storm if they didnt disabled him until they fixed the bug.

In a world like Runeterra, people dont just die. There are many ways for them to return from death or survive.

Manwalrus1 votes

We're unaware as to whether or not he lived just yet. I'm not sure that bug was diable worthy.

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