Jhin, the Virtuoso, Revealed!

Sharjo··26 votes·5,877 views
Champion Reveal: Jhin, the Virtuoso

He's here folks! Take a gander at his look and kit!

Some design elements I noticed; the cloak's ornate design definetly makes me think of Demacia, and it looks like not only his right arm but both of his legs are prosthetic.

101 Comments

Igotlazy33 votes

You know, for a Gun called Whisper, it makes quite a bit of noise.

A Superb Villain14 votes

The new Caitlyn skin looks neat. Legendary, right? New model, new particles, new VO.

It's not?

...

Sorry, I was expecting more "deranged killer" and less "refined sniper kit".

His design is alright, but it seems so minimalist; he's a masked man in a pancho with prosthetic limbs. He's a cybernetic The Man with No Name.

lolipopevelynn8 votes

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The new Caitlyn skin looks neat. Legendary, right? New model, new particles, new VO.

It's not?

...

Sorry, I was expecting more "deranged killer" and less "refined sniper kit".

His design is alright, but it seems so minimalist; he's a masked man in a pancho with prosthetic limbs. He's a cybernetic The Man with No Name.

he simply sees death and killing as a artform. blood is rose petles to him. a bit messed up in the head yes, but deranged is more Jinx Annie and Shaco territory.

i find his personality to be fine. i dont get why so many people were expecting a 2nd shaco...

A Superb Villain12 votes

But that is deranged.

Jinx, Annie(why is she grouped with them?), and Shaco are all aware of their brutality and its consequences. Jhin may not even recognize murder as death, which is a very obvious sign of madness.

Igotlazy5 votes

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he simply sees death and killing as a artform. blood is rose petles to him. a bit messed up in the head yes, but deranged is more Jinx Annie and Shaco territory.

i find his personality to be fine. i dont get why so many people were expecting a 2nd shaco...

Let's wait for his voice before making any judgements on his Sanity.

charcharmunro4 votes

I mean, from what we hear in the ult display bit, which I think is "Now, for your finale", he sounds like he'll be kinda Singed-like in his insanity, IE, almost unnaturally calm.

Narasimha3 votes

I wasn't expecting a second Shaco.

But neither was I expecting a second Caitlyn.

Malicious Metal4 votes

His legs seem to be prosthetic limbs as well.

heck, I think he used to be one of the Machine Herald's disciples.

333lom4 votes

Nah, his prosthetics look like they're worse quality than Viktor's. Don't be fooled by gold plating, that's just for aesthetics. And we all know Viktor is for function over form. I've noticed Jhin uses the gun with his left arm. Perhaps his right artificial one is simply not good enough (and its elbow bends both ways.. not good). That large shoulder-piece might conceal a crude contraption needed to operate the arm.

Igotlazy12 votes

Man that Passive is one of the weirdest things I've seen in a while. To sum it up...

-4 Chambered Gun, reloads like Graves after the 4 shots have been spent -Last shot does increased damage based on missing health -Crits don't do full damage -Attack Speed doesn't increase Attack Speed -Attack Speed and Crit goes into Increasing Attack Damage -Crits give him Movement Speed BASED on Attack Speed

My god.

SpecterVonBaren2 votes

Ya, its the most janky passive I've ever seen. God help the level 1-30 players that try him out on free rotation.

Penta Penguin1 votes

Kalista

SpecterVonBaren2 votes

Kalista's passive may have odd things about it but for the most part the weirdness is very easy to see, her auto's are weird and let her hop, and she can bind with someone to give her an ult and get some more damage. Jhin's passive is is a bunch of stat swaps on top of an unusual auto attack.

Penta Penguin3 votes

Is this the meme to defeat the "3-hit passive" meme?

Rozzeta2 votes

It's like Ashe, Graves, Yasuo and Hecarim had a strange hybrid baby.

Stars Shaper4 votes

Inb4 "Omg Jhin OP he has hexuple Passive Nerf!" Threads

iainB851 votes

I feel like Riot is failing to learn from their mistakes on two fronts with this passive:

  1. Passives that change how item scaling works. Case example: Yasuo. Crit items and masteries are having to be nerfed and designed carefully when they aren't OP on anyone else but him because of his double crit scaling. When a single passive on one champion out of a 100+ is dictating balance on one of the eight primary stats of the game, you've done screwed up.

  2. More is not always better. An elegant, fun to use, easy to understand ability is almost always better than an ability so forced you need a paragraph of descritpion just to try to understand what it does, and you still fail.

Overall I thought Riot was getting some fun new designs in their more recent champions, but this seems like a huge step backwards. I could be way off and he could be the poster child for balance and fun on release, but this is my initial impression.

Igotlazy3 votes

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I feel like Riot is failing to learn from their mistakes on two fronts with this passive:

  1. Passives that change how item scaling works. Case example: Yasuo. Crit items and masteries are having to be nerfed and designed carefully when they aren't OP on anyone else but him because of his double crit scaling. When a single passive on one champion out of a 100+ is dictating balance on one of the eight primary stats of the game, you've done screwed up.

  2. More is not always better. An elegant, fun to use, easy to understand ability is almost always better than an ability so forced you need a paragraph of descritpion just to try to understand what it does, and you still fail.

Overall I thought Riot was getting some fun new designs in their more recent champions, but this seems like a huge step backwards. Thumbs down from me, sorry.

Easy man, he isn't even out yet.

  1. Personally I think that if it keeps a theme and is ok balance wise, changing how Items and Resources work on a specific Champ is fine. Ashe and Graves are good examples of this. Yasuo and Mordekaiser are not. Jhin look to be fine. The guy is basically wielding a modified Rifle, I don't expect it to attack very fast.

  2. Key word is almost always. We'll see how his Kit works together and then we can judge.

MeesterMoo2 votes

They actually made a mistake and forgot to put in a part where on a killing blow, he spawns a flower that slows and reveals nearby enemies and then detonates. Not jk, go to newsoflegends and scroll to bottom to find the post of you don't believe me.

Mimy6 votes

What the heck... is that range on his W and R.....

riot why? This guy is gonna be CANCER on any aram..

Sharjo29 votes

Because he's slow as fuck that's why

Rozzeta3 votes

Might depend, He gains damage from AS, and most AS items have increased movespeed as stat.

I'm actually a little more concerned on the traps. They're invisible (like Teemo's shrooms...), so he might get quite a bit of map control now that Wards are an even more scarce resource than they were before. Of course, all depending on the CD of the skill, amount he can place, and duration of the trap.

GreenLore2 votes

I doubt he'll be able to make as many traps as he wants to. He's most likely going to be limited to 2 or 3 of them,either through cooldowns or through a limit.

NinjaFifer192 votes

They don't provide much in the way of vision, so they'd be best paired with a ward anyhow. That way you can see when the enemy is about to step on it, so you can snare them and punish them.

ShaftyMegee2 votes

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What the heck... is that range on his W and R.....

riot why? This guy is gonna be CANCER on any aram..

It's not like they balance the game for aram though

Your Next Kill6 votes

rito says he won't get a 3-hit passive gives him a 4-hit passive

Stars Shaper3 votes

Gypsydude joked about it when some1 got with "4-hit passive" after seeing the 4 portraits xD

OverpoweredSoap4 votes

His kit seems odd....

Like not what I expected (that's not a bad thing at all), I kind of expected a little more, his design seems eh besides his mask.

I did keep myself away from the leaked splash, so I may have set up my expectations a little too high, however.

Seems rather different, though I wish he was an ap mage gunslinger like a good amount of people thought, oh well.

I look forward to testing him on the PBE.

Penta Penguin4 votes

The only thing I'm disappointed about is that "Dancing Grenade" isn't really a grenade, it would be nice to have even a small explosion with the ramping damage per bounce

Ralanr4 votes

I'm honestly a little underwhelmed. Slightly disapointed that we were leaked his base skin, but that's just because I had imaged him with a hood.

The large block on his shoulder is probably where he carries his ammo. I'm going to have to reread his abilities all over because I couldn't make sense of them (having a cold and reading them a few minutes before class does that I guess). From what I do remember however, his passive is really confusing. I can't help feeling that Zephyr would have been a core item for him.

Disapointed in that this will probably be played in botlane as an ADC when I was hoping for a midlaner with a gun. I'm probably not going to play him much since he seems to dislike camera lock.

As for where he's from, I'm guessing Piltover. It most likely is the only place to gain prosthetics of complex design and his gun. He also doesn't have enough diesel/bio weapon in his design to warrant Zuan (Piltover is more clockwork tech which this guy is loaded with).

Maybe they'll replace "C" in Caitlyn's lore with him.

Igotlazy2 votes

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I'm honestly a little underwhelmed. Slightly disapointed that we were leaked his base skin, but that's just because I had imaged him with a hood.

The large block on his shoulder is probably where he carries his ammo. I'm going to have to reread his abilities all over because I couldn't make sense of them (having a cold and reading them a few minutes before class does that I guess). From what I do remember however, his passive is really confusing. I can't help feeling that Zephyr would have been a core item for him.

Disapointed in that this will probably be played in botlane as an ADC when I was hoping for a midlaner with a gun. I'm probably not going to play him much since he seems to dislike camera lock.

As for where he's from, I'm guessing Piltover. It most likely is the only place to gain prosthetics of complex design and his gun. He also doesn't have enough diesel/bio weapon in his design to warrant Zuan (Piltover is more clockwork tech which this guy is loaded with).

Maybe they'll replace "C" in Caitlyn's lore with him.

I see him as Demacian, though I would be satisfied with Piltover. Jeez though, now we would have 2 psychopaths to deal with.

Interix922 votes

{quoted}

I'm honestly a little underwhelmed. Slightly disapointed that we were leaked his base skin, but that's just because I had imaged him with a hood.

The large block on his shoulder is probably where he carries his ammo. I'm going to have to reread his abilities all over because I couldn't make sense of them (having a cold and reading them a few minutes before class does that I guess). From what I do remember however, his passive is really confusing. I can't help feeling that Zephyr would have been a core item for him.

Disapointed in that this will probably be played in botlane as an ADC when I was hoping for a midlaner with a gun. I'm probably not going to play him much since he seems to dislike camera lock.

As for where he's from, I'm guessing Piltover. It most likely is the only place to gain prosthetics of complex design and his gun. He also doesn't have enough diesel/bio weapon in his design to warrant Zuan (Piltover is more clockwork tech which this guy is loaded with).

Maybe they'll replace "C" in Caitlyn's lore with him.

The block is what powers his ult according to Gypsy. It combines with his gun to serve as a shoulder mounted cannon.

HellsTrueKing3 votes

I'm really torn on this champ so far...

So his passive is like the new Graves passive, which I like, but way more complicated with the other stuff added on. His Q is like Sivir's ricochet, the W is like Xerath's Q with some cc added in, and his E is like a combination of Caitlyn and Teemo's traps. Finally, his R is a combination of Irelia's, which I don't like, and Caitlyn's, which I do. Now there is another passive that was not added in but a rioter mentioned in the comments:

"The reveal is missing something that got locked in too late for localization. Beauty in Death - Killing blows spawn a blooming flower on the corpse that reveals and slows enemies nearby before detonating for damage." --gypsylord

While his kit doesn't seem original, the combination is interesting, and I love the art style. I can't wait to play him when he comes out.

P.S. : Sander Cohen is still far more interesting

ParaBellam2 votes

Out of all the roles he could be, he's an ADC

I get that it makes sense, but he could be a tank or jungler or mid that uses pistols. Could actually be cool.

Or, a support that heals by shooting allies.

His skills are wicked though.

cwleungaa1 votes

Attack Speed doesn't increase Attack Speed

then how to increase his attack speed?[zombie-brand-mindblown]

Sharjo16 votes

You don't; AS gains contribute to his AD. Seems he'll have a consistent attack speed for the entirety of the game that never changes.

Supreme Senpai696 votes

item 3110 item 3143

These are looking pretty good against him then

ZGM Dazzling7 votes

I wonder if his attack speed cannot be decreased either.

My Waifu Vanilla2 votes

Even if it can be decreased 15% off of a small number will be hardly noticeable probably.

SpecterVonBaren4 votes

On the contrary, it's the champions that have low base attackspeed that feel the hurt of attack speed slows the most. If a Malphite E's an ADC then it's a minor inconvenience, but if he uses it on Nautilus then you immediately notice because it takes 3 seconds for your auto to hit.

Boulderox1 votes

then his MS boost on crits are shit because they never can have more AS than base...

charcharmunro5 votes

I think the movement speed boost scales with how much bonus attack speed you have, but bonus attack speed doesn't actually contribute to... Attack speed.

MrBuffington1 votes

I kind of assume he'll still have AS/lvl

MrPista1 votes

Oh my god if he has it,he'll get like >5 dmg per level,will he beat Illaoi in base damage xD?

charcharmunro2 votes

I think only bonus attack speed converts to AD. He gets AS per level same as anybody.

Stars Shaper5 votes

AS = AD and Move Speed on crit + 4th attack always crits

Unless his AD rating on skills are abysmal he is going to deal a freaking lot of damage.

NinjaFifer192 votes

And Crit Chance gets converted to AD as well.

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

Hhm... Kinda disappointed really, his kit doesn't have anything that's particularly interesting. On the other hand, given his creator, I'm sure that he'll be very well balanced, functional, and fun for people. I'm just kinda let down he doesn't have any mechanic that's all that new.

Rozzeta4 votes

Well, they did say they wanted to make a more mechanically simple Champion than last few releases.

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