Skip to content

To everyone who hates Aatrox's new voice, I have a request

calibergunsaint··51 votes·14,602 views

As the title says, I'm going to ask you something: Picture that you have a brand new OC. This OC is an Immortal alien war god who carries a living Greatsword with ease, and whose sole purpose in life is to fight, kill, take over and destroy things. This OC was also trapped inside his weapon ages ago, when him and his entire race were defeated after rebeling those who wanted to control them. His race is also like him, powerful, ancient and proud. Now picture him loose from his prison, ready to unleash havoc and mayhem where ever he goes, ready to get revenge for his brothers and sisters and letting the world know that he has returned to destroy them for what they did to him. Now you need to put on this OC the Vibes of the voicelines of old Aatrox and new Aatrox. Wouldn't you agree that giving this OC a "narcissistic, meglomaniac, proud, bloodthirsty , rageful, Megatron like" voice is a better choice then giving him a "Behind the scene, puppetmaster in the shadows, schemeing mastermind" kind of voice? Think about that.

66 Comments

Malicious Metal51 votes

Nobody argues that it does not fit the backstory, it's just not the Aatrox some people were attached to.

Plus that ALIEN WARGOD OF DESTRUCTION AND RAGE is something EVERY 12 year old comes up with, it takes some more effort making a nuanced character.

Hupsis1 votes

Well there has to be at least one of those characters as well... demonic war mongering brute who has no remorse.

Perfect character to entice a new audience (of 12-year-olds) with.

Jet Sett11 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=FPkdqvJW,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-13T09:22:25.651+0000)

Nobody argues that it does not fit the backstory, it's just not the Aatrox some people were attached to.

Plus that ALIEN WARGOD OF DESTRUCTION AND RAGE is something EVERY 12 year old comes up with, it takes some more effort making a nuanced character.

When you put it like that, what did you ever see in Mordekaiser?

Velzard of Koz10 votes

He writes a thread about it like every week. Go into his post history.

SociopathFriend2 votes

What he means I think is that it's quite common for people to see far more into a champion than the lore/voice lines/gameplay initially give out. Give it a few years and you might find players in a similar state of mind for the new Aatrox.

I used to have a similar zeal for Malzahar despite him also not being overly complex as a character.

CapnMorganFr3man5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=FPkdqvJW,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-13T09:22:25.651+0000)

Plus that ALIEN WARGOD OF DESTRUCTION AND RAGE is something EVERY 12 year old comes up with, it takes some more effort making a nuanced character.

Implying edgy, whispery, brooding battle demon with a God complex isn't every other preteens wet dream. For further archetype reference see Sasuke kun, Shadow the Hedgehog, and Seto Kaiba.

Cosnirak1 votes

Old Aatrox isn't brooding, doesn't have a God complex, and isn't even edgy.

CapnMorganFr3man2 votes

{quoted}

Old Aatrox isn't brooding, doesn't have a God complex, and isn't even edgy.

"Violence is elegance" "Peace is the greatest lie of all" "Sow the seeds of strife" "Teach them to fear us" Hmmmm

Cosnirak1 votes

If that's your bar for those descriptions... eh just no, that's not a reasonable bar, not even close. None of that even remotely touches on brooding or God complex. You seem like the kind of person who calls anything remotely dark or viscous 'edgy' which is ironically edgy to do.

Felvyne5 votes

Almost any concept can be done by a 12 year kid. What an adult can reach when creating a character is its deep. Angry Aatrox is just the tip of the iceberg.

TheDevice2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=FPkdqvJW,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-13T09:22:25.651+0000)

Nobody argues that it does not fit the backstory, it's just not the Aatrox some people were attached to.

Plus that ALIEN WARGOD OF DESTRUCTION AND RAGE is something EVERY 12 year old comes up with, it takes some more effort making a nuanced character.

And what was the previous lore that made him so original then? What was so mature about it? Let's hear it.

ProtestantCaesar25 votes

The problem is that the Aatrox you described isn't the Aatrox we knew.

In the old story, Aatrox was never imprisoned.

In the old story, Aatrox didn't want to destroy the world. He just loved fighting.

Now he's different. That's why people don't like it. He was cool before, and now he's different. People want the cool things they like to stay the same.

TonyTonyMordecai9 votes

That and the fighting was usually to bolster the spirits of the losing side of a war, which that original story and gameplay fantasy would've worked so awesomely if they worked it into some sort of juggernaut support concept: a long duration fighter that gives some sort of buffs or shares heals to keep his allies going. Might be me, but wouldn't it have been cooler to see something like that?

Toru Itai2 votes

Pre-Rework Sion ##NeverForget

TonyTonyMordecai3 votes

I remember that old ult, cool concept, I hope they bring it back in some form

ModAcademy Kayn3 votes

juggernaut support concept

People complaining about Riot changing too much, but people also wanting Riot to change him into something completely different to what he currently is at the same time.

???

LordScorpio16 votes

AurelionSol Nautilus Renekton Xerath Kayn Right, fools we would be for thinking such a thing, obviously a character with his story couldn't have a different voice over.

"Now picture him loose from his prison, ready to unleash havoc and mayhem where ever he goes, ready to get revenge for his brothers and sisters and letting the world know that he has returned to destroy them for what they did to him." Like his jokes? as you replied to numerous people before me:"Oh I'm sorry, appearntly making jokes is forbidden on entities. Didn't get the memo.", but do they fit the character you potrayed? I don't think so., that's cause he has a personality and as such it is full of facets. So yeah, I thought about it and it could have been different.

calibergunsaint2 votes

Well the jokes don't fit the archtype, but as you said, a charcter can't have only one face, it should have many, the jokes are the side of Aatrox that wants amusemnet.

LordScorpio5 votes

{quoted}

Well the jokes don't fit the archtype, but as you said, a charcter can't have only one face, it should have many, the jokes are the side of Aatrox that wants amusemnet.

I totally agree with you, I'm in for the jokes, I even like the new lines even though some of them are... weirdly over prolonged. Many of them tbh. What I wanted, as a main Aatrox since his debut, was a voice over similar to the former one. We all know the VO of the current Aatrox isn't that good, it's the same thing over and over, losers worms winners kudos, we know it but his voice was the charming part, I love Aatrox voice. From what we have seen, the new Aatrox sounds more like a 10 years old Russian minecraft player, and I'm not satisfied with that. Overall, the new rework isn't something I dig but I can see why a lot of players like it.

Whiteeye Avelyn1 votes

Its almost like its a video game to be played and enjoyed and not a screenplay made by collage students.

Yets42403 votes

"collage students," huh? Man, that typo is telling.

Ifneth1 votes

{quoted}

AurelionSol Nautilus Renekton Xerath Kayn Right, fools we would be for thinking such a thing, obviously a character with his story couldn't have a different voice over.

"Now picture him loose from his prison, ready to unleash havoc and mayhem where ever he goes, ready to get revenge for his brothers and sisters and letting the world know that he has returned to destroy them for what they did to him." Like his jokes? as you replied to numerous people before me:"Oh I'm sorry, appearntly making jokes is forbidden on entities. Didn't get the memo.", but do they fit the character you potrayed? I don't think so., that's cause he has a personality and as such it is full of facets. So yeah, I thought about it and it could have been different.

Wait. What? Aurelion Sol is always cracking jokes, especially in his special interactions. Nautilus doesn’t have much voiceover, but his joke breaks reality in addition to his character. Renekton and Xerath are serious, but Kayn is the personification of edge while Rhaast makes snarky comments.

The only character who’s serious all the time is Vayne.

LordScorpio1 votes

{quoted}

Wait. What? Aurelion Sol is always cracking jokes, especially in his special interactions. Nautilus doesn’t have much voiceover, but his joke breaks reality in addition to his character. Renekton and Xerath are serious, but Kayn is the personification of edge while Rhaast makes snarky comments.

The only character who’s serious all the time is Vayne.

You didn't understand my message but you agreed with me, that's neat. I was trying to prove a point, how a character with a story similar or relatable to Aatrox could be different.

Fasmodey15 votes

"Narcissistic, meglomaniac, proud, bloodthirsty , rageful, Megatron like" entity wouldn't try to be funny, make stupid jokes and sarcasms.

If he was more serious but also the features above, I could handle it.

But he is now a total joke, a walking meme. Almost Kled like. They are both murderers but you can't take them serious.

Sad part is, you try to find one serious, not tended to be funny interaction, only to you think you find the one but in the end there is another forced fun.

Look at the Taric quote. "Not today obviously."

Beyond trash.

calibergunsaint8 votes

Oh I'm sorry, appearntly making jokes is forbidden on entities. Didn't get the memo.

Fasmodey13 votes

Not this much.

We are playing a god of war architype, not a fucking clown.

calibergunsaint4 votes

Again, Is self amusment and joking forbidden on a charcter who has some serious power? Do you want him mad and grumpy all the time? Cause guess what, that is what old Aatrox was, and that's why he got new voicelines.

Fasmodey4 votes

He could be like Renekton? They share a similar destiny. Why couldn't he be scarier like him and less joke?

Do you want him mad and grumpy all the time?

He is still mad. Kled level mad. Joking like an idiot, someone you can't take serious.

Leetri2 votes

Renekton still jokes. He's an ancient champion though so his voice lines are highly outdated, most new champions have more quotes for auto attacking than Renekton has in total.

IainG101 votes

Renekton wasn't alone; he had Xerath torturing him for company. Aatrox was completely alone (as far as I know).

Sona Ping3 votes

{quoted}

Again, Is self amusment and joking forbidden on a charcter who has some serious power? Do you want him mad and grumpy all the time? Cause guess what, that is what old Aatrox was, and that's why he got new voicelines.

That's not why he got new voicelines, it wasn't because that idea is inherently terrible and this is evidence of that. It's because he got reworked and he's an old champion and old champions only had a few dozen voice lines.

Also, "mad and grumpy all the time" says more about your ideas about the character than the character himself.

wolvius1 votes

{quoted}

Oh I'm sorry, appearntly making jokes is forbidden on entities. Didn't get the memo.

Neither did Varus.

calibergunsaint2 votes

Finally, someone said it. Was waiting the entire time for someone to say it

rtbf22561824111 votes

When the hell was Aatrox ever a puppetmaster? He fought his own battles and inspired men to reveal the horrors within themselves until the atrocities they commited with said power corrupted them to the core.

That kind of power is terrifying.

"I know what lurks within the hearts of men."

I don't doubt he'd be angry but do you really think a being as presumably wise and old as Aatrox wouldn't be able to act out his will without screaming and making fun of everything like an asshole? Not to mention he sounds like a Disney-fied Dracula that takes everything like a joke.

To me, Megatron has always been a little bitch in the Transformers saga as he loses all the damn time.

I Love Thresh7 votes

I expected to hear more sadism and less lame jokes. Most importantly I did not expect one of the few calm and stoic "evil" characters we have in League to be robbed from us like that.

Mohavon5 votes

Look. You can argue from the angle that this fits his re-invented lore. But this version of him is definitely less subtle and less intriguing, ESPECIALLY to people like me who have been loyal to him from the beginning. Former mains are very upset for good reason.

#NotmyAatrox

Robertsmash5 votes

Wouldn't you agree that giving this OC a "narcissistic, meglomaniac, proud, bloodthirsty , rageful, Megatron like" voice is a better choice then giving him a "Behind the scene, puppetmaster in the shadows, schemeing mastermind" kind of voice?

Well I've thought about it like you said, and no. Mainly because your final question is somewhat disingenuous. A voice alone can't be "puppetmaster in the shadows" or "scheming mastermind". On the contrary, Aatrox in the old lore was a major actor on the front lines, visibly driving conflict. His tone was contemplative and had a cold confidence, but he was undeniably a well-known symbol of slaughter. I don't see any of the puppetmaster in the shadows thing, and I certainly don't hear it in the old VO. And an aloof, contemplative, confident tone can work on new Aatrox's story, and should have been made to, if preserving the essence of the original is in any way a priority in these reworks.

remakoro4 votes

{quoted}

As the title says, I'm going to ask you something: Picture that you have a brand new OC. This OC is an Immortal alien war god who carries a living Greatsword with ease, and whose sole purpose in life is to fight, kill, take over and destroy things. This OC was also trapped inside his weapon ages ago, when him and his entire race were defeated after rebeling those who wanted to control them. His race is also like him, powerful, ancient and proud. Now picture him loose from his prison, ready to unleash havoc and mayhem where ever he goes, ready to get revenge for his brothers and sisters and letting the world know that he has returned to destroy them for what they did to him. Now you need to put on this OC the Vibes of the voicelines of old Aatrox and new Aatrox. Wouldn't you agree that giving this OC a "narcissistic, meglomaniac, proud, bloodthirsty , rageful, Megatron like" voice is a better choice then giving him a "Behind the scene, puppetmaster in the shadows, schemeing mastermind" kind of voice? Think about that.

Imagine you have OC you know and love and then someone changes canon cuz... I dont know... The fuck was actual reason? Im pretty sure none even exist. And now you have something completely alien to what you had before.

Leetri3 votes

I don't get why people think he's all jokes when literally the only thing we have is his special interactions, something that tends to be jokey even for otherwise super serious characters like Swain. We haven't heard even half of his voice lines, waaaaaaay too early to make any judgement about how "serious" he is.

JCPANDIT3 votes

Having Aatrox maintain his calm and stoic personality - only to become enraged in his lines to hated foes (Panth, Zoe, etc.) - would have been a really nice contrast.

And the issue is, the oppprtunity was there. Not all of his lines had to be said as angry shouty man, but that’s the direction that the voice actor and voice director chose. I think that was their biggest mistake with the voice. In fact, I think some of his lines would have sounded much better if they were spoken more calmly; giving them a more sinister feel.

I don’t agree with people thinking he’s now a flat, one-dimensional character. I think Aatrox is more nuanced than people are giving him credit for. He expresses a whole range of emotions, which I think is awesome. I just think it would’ve been better if these emotions were contrasted with a calmer default.

Even the special interactions aren’t a bad thing. I can see why he makes jokes; he’s amusing himself. I just think the angry delivery towards almost everyone is out-of-place. His lines to Akali and Anivia, for example, could be less shouty and more sinister.

TLDR; the voice acting has taken away from people realising his potential. He should sound more sinister than angry in most of his interactions.

calibergunsaint2 votes

I agree for the most part, he's mainly amusing himself, he's angry and mad, but still kind of melancholic and sad at the same time, not sure what his purpose is or who to trust, since everyone he knew betreyed him. yet I still belive that him being angry all the time is a bit better then sinster, I mean he's a warrior taken out of the fight for years, he's gotta be pissed.

JCPANDIT1 votes

{quoted}

yet I still belive that him being angry all the time is a bit better then sinster, I mean he's a warrior taken out of the fight for years, he's gotta be pissed.

Yeah, I wouldn’t want him always sinister, and neither would I want him to be sinister most of the time. I completely understand why he’s pissed at the world. I just think there were some missed opportunities in of his interactions - where sinister may have sounded more fitting than angry.

IainG101 votes

Having just listened to his full VO, there are many non-angry lines.

JCPANDIT1 votes

{quoted}

Having just listened to his full VO, there are many non-angry lines.

There sure are! :)

Doctor Dyment3 votes

I find it honestly strange that there seem to be so many Aatrox players who were totally invested in his character and backstory before the update. Like, where was everyone before this?

calibergunsaint1 votes

I know, right? If he was really was this deep, complex mastermind behind some of the most horrific battles humanity has ever seen, where were the posts about it? Honestly, it's like they just don't like the rework itself and want to salvage something from old Aatrox, and then they remember "oh shit he actually has a really big and good lore and voice" and decided in the sub-reddit of the mains to unite and get the old voice back.

Rouwhorst1 votes

Why would you post about those things, there is little to complain or discuss on those subjects. We can enjoy them silently and alone. On top of that, one rarely sees posts about any voice lines and lore is comparably scarce unless it is less than a month old.

Wild Geese3 votes

I love the new voice and it's pretty much the best part of this pretty medicore rework...

He has way more personality, he sounds better, his motivations actually make sense! And what's wrong with playing as the bad guy??..

I guess people don't like change.

TheFancySkeleton2 votes

You know, with that story background, I only imagined one thing.

"FINALLY, SOMEONE LET ME OUT OF MY CAGE! NOW, TIME FOR ME IS DIFFERENT 'CAUSE I'M COUNTING NO AGE!"

More from Story, Art, & Sound

More by calibergunsaint