Veigar VU?

Grouchy Poro··6 votes·9,398 views

I know there's others out there needing a VU but in all honesty if you ask me Veigars model is about on par with Poppy's. He's clunky, and has very poor proportions, plus is very unyordle-like aside from his size. The only part of him you can see is his head which is a black orb that was used to simplify the model since he hides his face under a hat. Plus have you seen his legs?

Aside from the model his spell effects could use help too. Q is just a bigger auto attack which may work early but not so much late game when it chunks health like a cleaver. W is nice but could use some work. E should be more imposing and have a better effect than 'magic pillars appear' in my opinion. And finally R should be brought on par with the standard Final Boss Veigar set. I mean, default R is just a larger, kinda flashy auto attack with a few ring particles which isn't very imposing even if it 100-0% anyone with ap. The ultimate should give the feel of ripping apart reality to annihilate your target, kinda like Final Boss does.

I'm not trying to complain, I just recently picked up Veigar and love his character a lot. I think he deserves some better treatment even if his gameplay isn't broken (like Poppy).

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RiotIronStylus9 votes

I would agree his overall visual quality isn't up to par. Currently he's sitting in the upper-ish tier of "high-value targets", which is the category below our 2015 fantasy slotting. So, while he might be picked up, he's a row below our 2015 candidates.

A Superb Villain3 votes

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Tell me more. I do not care what you say, so long as it involves Veigar and how splendidly evil he is. I have waited so long for a Rioter to post anything about the Tiny Master of Evil.

To what extent do you suspect he will be updated?

Does "below our 2015 fantasy slotting" strongly indicate we might not see true evil until 2016?

Will the potential update include a new voice actor?

Have you embraced the darkness in your soul?

WILL HE GET FUZZY EARS POKING OUT OF HIS HAT?!

RiotIronStylus6 votes
  • Not sure to what extent. That depends on how animation and VFX feels. We can always make a new model, but character art doesn't really dictate scope. We have bandwidth there.

  • My hunch is that we probably won't see him this year, but nothing is out of the question.

  • No idea, but if we did I'm sure we'd keep him just as whacky or just try to get the original actor and increase his lines.

  • No, I'm all about the sun. Unless I'm all about the moon. Depends on the day.

  • I'm pro-ears. Not sure on team consensus though.

A Superb Villain1 votes

Thank you, IronStylus.

=' )

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

So is there a list of champions that are being updated this year? Who are they?

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Grouchy Poro2 votes

They already kinda listed them. Poppy I know is one but I forget the others. You'd need to find the dev blog that announced Maokai's VU.

GreenLore1 votes

The thing is that the devblog doesn't tell us the plans for the whole year. The devblog originally listed Poppy (who seems to be still quite far away),Tristana (whose update might come soon,considering that she has already new icons on the pbe) and Maokai (who got his new update already)

However Alistar replaced maokai basically just a few a day or so before his update went to the pbe,which means that these 3 champs are by no means their only projects

Gutrot111 votes

Poppy yea really far away!

GreenLore1 votes

Uhm have you looked at the date of my post? I wrote this over 2 years ago,somewhere between november 2014 and febuary 2015.

And Poppys VGU was released during december 2015,which was at least 11 months after I wrote this,so yes at that time it really was far away.

Tesla Effect1 votes

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  • Not sure to what extent. That depends on how animation and VFX feels. We can always make a new model, but character art doesn't really dictate scope. We have bandwidth there.

  • My hunch is that we probably won't see him this year, but nothing is out of the question.

  • No idea, but if we did I'm sure we'd keep him just as whacky or just try to get the original actor and increase his lines.

  • No, I'm all about the sun. Unless I'm all about the moon. Depends on the day.

  • I'm pro-ears. Not sure on team consensus though.

I liked the Final Boss VA.

Tesla Effect1 votes

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I liked the Final Boss VA.

Oh look someone downvotes all my comments, may are they pathetic.

Grouchy Poro1 votes

Thx for popping by :). Glad to know there's at least plans to make plans for him ;)

Asul3 votes

Yeah definitely! Riot you really need to show some of his yordle features..... don't cover everything up with black and blue. Maybe you should show his yordle ears, for that, it will be easier for us to identify his race.

Grouchy Poro2 votes

If you've seen some of the fan art out there some of them do this and I love how it looks personally. He's depicted as a yordle with black fur a cat like eyes, with his ears pushed down by his hat and his other facial features obscured by the hat's shadow. I like it better than the ball of shadow he has for a head right now.

Cerbearus2 votes

Final Boss basically is his VU lol

GreenLore1 votes

I think veigar could need a bigger update in general.

His character isn't exactly clear,sometimes it sounds like he is just a powerful wannabe,you know the kind of evil guy who thinks it is evil when he does a doorbell prank,but his VO sounds sometimes like he would really torture you and your loved ones to death.

And I think his skill set could need a bit work. 2 of his skills are point-and-click orbs that fly to the enemy and damage them(sure one of them is immensly more powerful since it is his ult,but the problem still stands) His cage is on the one hand a unique ability in that you have to try to hit the enemy with its borders,but that kinda allows a good veigar to stun his opponents without any counterplay and takes away from the coolness of the skill,as it is not a skill where you think "muhahah,you are trapped now,you'll be stunned if you try to escape" and instead think "I hit you with a wall now you are stunned"

Grouchy Poro1 votes

True, two of his abilities are point and click but they work effectively. His q is like a modified auto attack and behaves in the same way (a targeted projectile). As for the stun wall, yes it would be kinda cool theme wise if you had to catch enemies inside the cage in order to stun them but power would need to be put into the cage to make it inescapable using simple blinks. A lot of the counterplay veigar has on assassins is predicting the blink, otherwise they blink through the stun wall.

As for his character I like where it is and it fits with his gameplay. Ya, nobody takes him seriously right up until he blasts your carry into oblivion and drops a mass of dark matter on your skull.

GreenLore1 votes

yeah thats the difficult thing about his cage,it is simply such a useful ability,but its usefulness kinda ruins the actual idea behind it(trapping your enemies and not putting a wall under their butt)

Overall I'd say his gameplay isn't that bad,it could merely need some adjustments

Garentheon1 votes

He definitely needs a VU. I would love to see him "Yordle-fied"

A Superb Villain1 votes

Did somebody say Veigar VU?!

aaronconlin1 votes

It would be cool if he got a more Yordle-esque model, I'd even like there to be a skin without his face being covered.

pizzadôg1 votes

I'M STILL WAITING item 3070

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