Dawnbringer Riven Feedback Thread

Tattersall··18 votes·5,123 views

I'm not here to bash the skin, but I do have some suggestions for it. The only reason I'm making this thread is because it's a skin that I'm actually interested in and I want it to be as great as it can be. From what I've seen, it's actually a really good skin. The passive-stacks being shown on the sword is a great touch, and the auto attacks are on point. All of the animations are smooth and flow well, which is hard to do on such a… I guess the word is spammy, champion. The particles are clean and the after-image effect is done well. The voice effect on her ult form fits perfectly. Oh, and I didn't even notice it at first, but I love the halo thing that appears around the sword's guard in her ult form. It's the little things that make or break a skin.

It's a good skin, and I can tell that a lot of work was put into it, but there are a few things that I think should be adjusted. For one (I can't be the only person who's bugged by this), her stance is… really wide. Really wide. I don't know if it's the skin or if Riven has always had that stance and the skin just draws attention to it somehow, but… it's weird.
Secondly, her third Q has her jumping too high (much too high). There's not really much more to say on that matter. Thirdly, her face in her ult form. I don't know, it just doesn't seem to fit. It looks too harsh, and her face seems too small when compared with her hair. I suggest having a helmet or mask cover her face in her ult form. I feel like that would do a good job of binding together the theme of "knight/warrior of order." Lastly (here's a short one), her laugh animation looks too much like a bad-guy laugh. Almost like a cackle.

And that's that. If you're reading this and have comments on the skin or on my thoughts, you know what to do. I kind of hope this gets enough traction to become "the" Dawnbringer Riven discussion thread. But who am I kidding, like that will ever happen.

23 Comments

Zypheit5 votes

I don't think she's supposed to be "good." I've been listening to her datamined voice lines and she's coming across as authoritarian to the point of condemning individualism. She's very similar thematically to Aetherwing Kayle if you look past the futuristic fantasy versus cosmic fantasy elements.

It's a pretty skin but the character falls fairly flat if you ask me. But then I've had that opinion of a lot of the skins and champions released lately.

aaronjohal2 votes

She also needs some new lines for when her and yasuo are on the same team. For example if yasuo gets first blood she says "Not bad demon" etc. This would make the skins even more hype especially after seeing the interactions between them on enemy teams

Arcus Diabolus1 votes

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She also needs some new lines for when her and yasuo are on the same team. For example if yasuo gets first blood she says "Not bad demon" etc. This would make the skins even more hype especially after seeing the interactions between them on enemy teams

Agreed. She also needs more special interaction lines in general, such as with the Vandal, Justicar, Archlight, Demacian and Noxian skins and champs, as well as a couple lines for Morgana and Kayle.

aaronjohal1 votes

I was disappointing to see how few allied interactions there were. And to b fair, i'm surprised she inst taunting morgana and probably the worst thing is she has nothing to say to her base skin like the majority of legendary skins do. The whole "Order and Chaos. Aligned?" line had me excited but 'twas a let down. The skin itself if amazing except for maybe that huge stance and that she doesn't have something covering her face during her ult.[zombie-nunu-tears]

Arcus Diabolus1 votes

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I was disappointing to see how few allied interactions there were. And to b fair, i'm surprised she inst taunting morgana and probably the worst thing is she has nothing to say to her base skin like the majority of legendary skins do. The whole "Order and Chaos. Aligned?" line had me excited but 'twas a let down. The skin itself if amazing except for maybe that huge stance and that she doesn't have something covering her face during her ult.[zombie-nunu-tears]

The wide combat stance makes a ton of sense, tho.

L0ve Is Blue5 votes

Am I the only one who loves how high she jumps on third Q? looks really cool and celestial like her skin overall.

Tattersall1 votes

I just feel like it goes too high. Like, in the skin spotlight they actually had to zoom out to show the entire thing.

Mira Arya Enthe5 votes

I upvoted because I agree that the face looks odd and this is a topical discussion. But I have to disagree on the other points, really wide stances are common in eastern fighting styles which Riven was influenced by both in lore and in design. Also the high leap is badass, maybe a hair too high but I like it.

Cecil Hoshino4 votes

I had the exact same thought as Zypheit, listening to the datamined voice lines. Never have I experienced so dramatic a personal turn on a skin; adoring Riven's character, while acknowledging the problems with her kit, I was super excited about this skin, because I didn't just find it pretty, I found it gorgeous. And then the ugly authoritarian voice over, and I completely turned on it, since, to me, that's the antithesis to Riven's character. And if you say that it's an alternate interpretation, an AU version telling a different story, well, then you're just telling another story where Light represents hardline, merciless order while Dark represents wild chaos and anarchy, and you're supposed to see shades of grey but I just want these overplayed, hackneyed cliches to shut up.

I felt bad about hijacking their comment to voice my complaint, especially since it quickly boiled over. I wanted to like this skin, I really, REALLY did. But this tired retread of Solari vs Lunari, Kayle vs Morgana, Soul Calibur vs Soul Edge, "Actually the good guy was the bad guy!" ...I am so, so tired.

Placentas2 votes

It kinda makes sense to me, kinda. The skin looks a lot like Aether Wing Kayle so I wouldn't be surprised if Aether Wing was an inspiration for the Riven skin. And knowing Kayle's story it doesn't surprise me too much that a "Aether Wing Riven" (ik its not the name) would be an authoritarian type of person.

Cecil Hoshino3 votes

Sure, sure, it makes sense, it matches with established motifs in Aether Wing Kayle and Leona (more accurately, The Solari).

I just don't like it. I hate that Riven, a character (who I admit I interpret in a particular way that might not match up with your interpretation, or maybe even Riot's in their grand vision) who is beaten and broken but still carries the small inner fire of an idealist, who values the pure ideal of "Honour the strong, not crush the weak," has an authoritarian "Submit or die" voice set shoved down her throat.

Placentas2 votes

No I agree with you about it not necessarily matching Riven. I would say your interpretation matches my own of Riven, but I also don't play Riven or anything. I actually love the skin aesthetically, haven't listened to the new voice over though so I don't have anything legit to say about it, but from what you said it doesn't seem to match Riven that much. Kinda like God Fist Lee is like a hyper savage mean boy when lee isn't really like that (just his mains xD).

But honestly, since you mentioned Leona, I would have loooved this skin for her!

Cecil Hoshino2 votes
Ahlas4 votes

Completely agree with everything you said.

I think that it would be much better if her face changed to something like Dark Star Orianna's face when she ults, instead of keeping her human face and a strange hair.

Fakinaway3 votes

The thing that annoys me about the skin is the hair. One of Riven's trait is white hair and they definitively should keep it in this skin too (its like giving yasuo an axe or turning renekton into an elephant). I hope at least they make a white and silver chroma.

In that leak it was called Angelblade and it was probably more fitting of her character than and angry-kayle-thingy-person, having feathers instead of those blue stripes that float (think of Justicar Syndra) and with a softer voice that echoes kinda like janna or sona.

The animations and sounds tho 10/10
Splash art better be nice too, dont fioraze her.

Hit me up Rito ill help you

GreenLore1 votes

But Riven has already 2 skins,where she doesn't have white hair(championship and arcade and you could even count the championship skins as 2 seperate ones)...

What defines Riven far more is her giant broken sword,not her hair color.

bravestbrave2 votes

I agree*[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]*

Znoxyboy2 votes

The one thing i find to be a flaw in this skin would be her second cast of her ult, as it could be kinda difficult to decipher the width of it in the heat of the moment, otherwise great job on this one Riot

Shirvallah2 votes

Agreed, especially with the third Q being too high of a leap. Reminds me of those bugs where people just fly up for a few seconds.

Arcus Diabolus4 votes

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Agreed, especially with the third Q being too high of a leap. Reminds me of those bugs where people just fly up for a few seconds.

I really like how high she leaps, tbh. It looks really nice imo.

aaronjohal1 votes

I wonder if Riot is even going to look at this thread hahahha Riven

ViperFangs1 votes

guys when u move side ways with riven her cape/wings kinda is in parallel dimension

Crache1 votes

when this skin is activated does she always fly

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