Flat Characters & Storytelling

Dreamspitter··3 votes·1,426 views

Flat characters aren't bad. They're just...are what they are. They don't change over the course of a story. How would you like to see characters change over time in league of legends -as opposed to remaining static?

This could give a further justification beyond what Riot Jeredan said for short introductory bios in client, and full stories out of client. Full stories could be kept out of client, and keep being added to so you know what is currently going on with a character. While in client, describing a character in a brief format would introduce who a character is purely conceptually.

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Solideus2 votes

Among other things I would like to see Varus' journey down his dark path of vengeance. At his lowest moment something would change; new insight into his condition, desperation and a revelation that affects his purpose; rekindling of his humanity and the search of a way to reclaim his body while still struggling with himself and his loss.

LordHippoman2 votes

I think some characters are fine static. Draven DrMundo Ziggs , etc., all kind of have their things, and they do those things, and it works.

Some characters, though, are really set up for bigger plot arcs where they accomplish some greater goal, like Riven Swain Ashe Diana , and if they never bother accomplishing that, it just looks odd. It's weird to see Riven running around muttering about redeeming herself while doing absolutely nothing redeeming whatsoever, unless her greatest crime was her inablity to find a dumb bunny suit.

Dreamspitter2 votes

I think some characters are fine static. Draven DrMundo Ziggs , etc., all kind of have their things, and they do those things, and it works.

Some characters, though, are really set up for bigger plot arcs where they accomplish some greater goal, like Riven Swain Ashe Diana , and if they never bother accomplishing that, it just looks odd. It's weird to see Riven running around muttering about redeeming herself while doing absolutely nothing redeeming whatsoever, unless her greatest crime was her inablity to find a dumb bunny suit.

How often have we seen a character accomplish anything?

LordHippoman1 votes

Happened once or twice in the JoJ with Irelia and Karma freeing the Southern Isles, Swain becoming Grand General, but the new lore direction is supposedly going to focus more on that. Hopefully something comes of that.

WestTiger2 votes

Swain is pretty much the 'hero of another story' at this point. Over the last 3 IRL years, following from his League Judgement where we get a brief look at how his leg was broken when he was young, then we time-skip to when he's a commander, then he gets demoted due to politics, then gets re-instated due to the League (which doesn't exist anymore I guess with no Institute of War) and because Demacia was putting in more pressure. And this is just from his League Judgement!

Then we get more of his story through LeBlanc's League Judgement, which reveals his past association with her, the Black Rose, bit of his ulterior motives, that he was meeting Katarina's dad etc.

And then in Cass' League Judgement, we kinda see a bit of their dad trying to either meet or flee the Black Rose (THAT story needs resolving).

But in the Journal of Justice, they kept a pretty good update on the politics that Swain was up to with LeBlanc. Like during the Ionia vs Noxus grudge match, they even put in an anecdote of why Swain wasn't up for champ select back then, and it turns out he was at a ball celebrating his appointment to High Command to replace Katarina and Cass' dad (so this should be chronologically set not long after Cass' judgement). LeBlanc was with him; even though she was up for champ select but lol illusions.

And it kept building up over time. Kalamanda aka the introduction of Dominion, showed them setting up the conflict between Noxus and Demacia to further Swain's political favor back in Noxus - he was the only active general fighting on an actual battlefield. It made him look good, Darkwill looked like a pussy, so Darkwill had to leave Noxus for the first time in a long time, and he got intercepted and 'died' handily. Swain looks like a badass, the Grand General's gone, and he basically consolidates a shit ton of power.

Which then leads up to the final JoJ, showing how he becomes Grand General, and everything resolves for him.

Basically out of many champions, Swain arguably has been the only one with a pretty full story-arc to this point. Heck, he got an in-lore position upgrade, which is a hell of a lot more than a lot of champs can say (Tyrant Swain should now technically be his default skin given his rank). And the side effect is that LeBlanc's story also got more developed through her association with him.

Looking at all the little bits of lore and story that's built up around him, there was obviously a writer who was very dedicated to writing for Swain and maybe LeBlanc and Noxus in particular. So now Riot has to use him as a story pivot most of the time simply because he's the only one with an established story to begin with.

Durmeth the Vile1 votes

I am not a fan of flat characters. If you're going to tell a story, having a character with a one note personality doesn't add anything. You certainly can't base any really interesting events or plots around a character who only does one thing. I'd say Riot should learn how to write some fiction but then again, they seem to not have alot of interest in it. They seem to want more generic fantasy types, and frankly that's boring.

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