Ok...Just how old is Poppy?

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Poppy

Poppy’s mind was overwhelmed with questions. Where was Orlon going? Where did he come from? How did he assemble this meticulous band of travelers, and was there a place for a yordle in it? At that moment, she made the most important decision in her life: For the first time ever, she would reveal herself to a human, as this was the first time she’d ever felt a connection with one.

The introduction was a jarring one, with Orlon having just as many questions for Poppy as she had for him, but the two soon became inseparable. He became a mentor to her, and she a devotee to his cause. In the training grounds, Poppy was an invaluable sparring partner–the only member of Orlon’s battalion who was unafraid to strike him. She was never obsequious, questioning his decisions with an almost childlike innocence, as though she didn’t know she was supposed to meekly follow orders.** She accompanied him to the site of the new settlement–an ambitious new nation called Demacia,** where all were welcome, regardless of station or background, so long as they contributed to the good of the whole.

If Poppy was around when Demacia was new..does that make her a few hundred years old? Or am I reading this wrong?

31 Comments

Sharjo3 votes

She's likely a few centuries old yes. She's older than Demacia itself! If I were to guess I'd say she's around...400-ish years old? Something like that.

Ralanr5 votes

Easily 500. We don't know if Jarvan 1 was Orlon's son or great grandchild.

Sharjo4 votes

And then we don't know how long it was before Jarvan II took up the throne, all we know is it wasn't an immediate transition, or else Sion wouldn't have been so easily forgotten.

Ralanr4 votes

So she might be 600 to over 1000 years old.

Sharjo6 votes

Bloody hell the timeline is complicated now. GAH. So many events and no PROPER DATES BAJKHVBDGASB CHJSA

Ralanr5 votes

It was complicated with Boram's extended lifetime damn it! It's a pain to write around!

Sharjo4 votes

There's an era where demons and darkin existed in a different form, the founding of Demacia, the reign of Mordekaiser, the arrival of the Watchers and rise of their empire, the war then against them by the Iceborn, their reign and then the War of the Three Sisters, the Ruination, the Shuriman empire's history with its void invasions and Brackern stuff, ndcabcyhUSAHCJS

We need a damn timeline Riot! Some kind of date for ANYTHING here! It's a jigsaw with such convoluted pieces!

Tesla Effect3 votes

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There's an era where demons and darkin existed in a different form, the founding of Demacia, the reign of Mordekaiser, the arrival of the Watchers and rise of their empire, the war then against them by the Iceborn, their reign and then the War of the Three Sisters, the Ruination, the Shuriman empire's history with its void invasions and Brackern stuff, ndcabcyhUSAHCJS

We need a damn timeline Riot! Some kind of date for ANYTHING here! It's a jigsaw with such convoluted pieces!

Like with the map, they are working on it. Probably wont release anything concrete until they update all of the champions lores that make no sense in the new world.

Sharjo2 votes

Yeah I know, just showing my frustrations. If anything the releasing of info about these historical events is good news for the timeline; there IS one, as opposed to before where we had the non-descript Rune Wars and that was about it for Runeterran history. The world's coming in to shape, and I like it!

Ralanr4 votes

So far what I'm liking is that it doesn't seem like everything is connected. It feels more real to me thinking that the blessed islands are probably unrelated to Demacia and Noxus is unrelated to the Frozen watchers.

But yes, we need a timeline. OR A MAP!

Sharjo7 votes

Ezreal "Who needs a ma-"

gets punched in to orbit

SHUT IT EZREAL. SHUT IT.

GreenLore2 votes

You know what just occured to me: If yordles can live for centuries....then what does that mean about Gnar?I mean he is basically a cave-yordle and if they have such huge lifespans,then that means he must be million of years old(though that isn't that surprising if you think about human evolution).

lightdragoon882 votes

Well he was frozen for all those millions of years.

Sharjo2 votes

Nah he's basically still a young yordle from an age of more primitive yordles. Potentially his rage gene is triggered because of yordle's natural magic, which would've likely been in its developmental stages at the time, (not all yordles had magic in their veins when Gnar was born). He's still from a human time period as far as we know; the time when the Frozen Watcher's held domain over Valoran and had an ice age brewing.

Likelihood is he's somewhere in the thousands of years old. In yordle years that'd probably be REALLY getting on in years, but we have no reference to go on right now so that's speculation on my part.

GreenLore1 votes

Well it is also possible that the watchers are merely older than humanity itself,so I wouldn't say that Gnar lived during the time where the freljord ruled over valoran,he might be even older than that.

Also considering that poppy seemingly is already several hundreds of years,if not a thousand years already old,I'd say that gnar being thousands of years old would seperate him just a few generations from the other yordles,which seems unlikely.

Centuros3 votes

And on top of that, she ran around trying to pawn off the hammer for that ENTIRE TIME?

In other news, eyewitness reports still suck. I guess nobody wanted to admit to being saved by something that barely came up to their knees (or... however tall Yordles are supposed to be. I don't think we have an actual height guideline, and her new splash has too much perspective going on).

lightdragoon883 votes

Spending 400 or so years pawning that hammer...wow.

Dreamspitter3 votes

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Spending 400 or so years pawning that hammer...wow.

Imagine: Elvish Pawn Stars.

Tesla Effect2 votes

Its probably cause of their innate magic which also enables them to achieve extraordinary things for someone of their stature.

Ralanr2 votes

There's still so much unanswered things about magic in Runeterra!

Sharjo2 votes

I stick reckon Bard holds many of the answers there. He interacts with the god damn magical friction! Friction!

Ralanr3 votes

Magic has friction?!

Sharjo4 votes

Apparently! And it has to do with dimensions and magical journeys!

turkeyBACON2 votes

Its also possible that Poppy is long been dead... we're only hearing of her story as part of the history of Demacia and Runeterra.

Bârd2 votes

The creature we know as Poppy is in fact a being from the void, who enters new nations as they are formed, and takes up a place of importance within them. When the nation becomes too powerful, Poppy will transform into Lollipoppy, destroyer of worlds, and consume every inhabitant while they still live, prolonging its life off of their pain and fear. The update we are now seeing is the cycle beginning anew, after Poppy secretly destroyed Kalamanda, pinning the blame on Noxus.

To answer your question, Poppy is as old as fear itself.

Lost R2 votes

This is something I pointed out when Kindred was announced. Riot seems to be adding more Legends into the League. Characters that have legendary status, be it current events or mere folklore. Braum's story, for example, is told by an old lady who heard the stories when she was her granddaughter's age. Twitch's story is told in Zaun sanitary and waste disposal reports. Tahm Kench tells his story from the perspective of the man he now possesses. Bard's story is told around a campfire, and his most recent "interaction" with Runeterra was during the chaos of the Noxian occupiation of Ionia.

Among the various champions, there is a divide between Heroes and Legends. The Heroes are current event characters like Garen, Jarvan, Katarina, Gangplank, Miss Fortune, etc. Characters that are all but 100% confirmed to exist in present day Runeterra. Then there are characters whose presence and interactions are told after the fact or in folklore, characters like Bard, Tahm Kench, Ahri, Aatrox, anyone from the Shadow Isles, and yes, including Poppy. These characters, their presence in the world, is ambiguous at best. They are seen in mere glimpses and their stories are told second hand and beyond; unlike other characters (including Tahm Kench who tells his own story), Poppy ends up bearing witness to the Legend that she created over time. How old she is is not entirely relevant, as the Poppy we play in game is likely just an illusion of the real Poppy.

I see League's new lore a little bit like Smite's, except not really. Whereas Smite's roster is entirely based on gods from real life mythology, League's Legend half of the roster draws from the series own fictional pantheon as it's slowly fleshed out.

lightdragoon881 votes

Mmmm..this is interesting. Thanks for this insight.

Rustling Bush1 votes

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This is something I pointed out when Kindred was announced. Riot seems to be adding more Legends into the League. Characters that have legendary status, be it current events or mere folklore. Braum's story, for example, is told by an old lady who heard the stories when she was her granddaughter's age. Twitch's story is told in Zaun sanitary and waste disposal reports. Tahm Kench tells his story from the perspective of the man he now possesses. Bard's story is told around a campfire, and his most recent "interaction" with Runeterra was during the chaos of the Noxian occupiation of Ionia.

Among the various champions, there is a divide between Heroes and Legends. The Heroes are current event characters like Garen, Jarvan, Katarina, Gangplank, Miss Fortune, etc. Characters that are all but 100% confirmed to exist in present day Runeterra. Then there are characters whose presence and interactions are told after the fact or in folklore, characters like Bard, Tahm Kench, Ahri, Aatrox, anyone from the Shadow Isles, and yes, including Poppy. These characters, their presence in the world, is ambiguous at best. They are seen in mere glimpses and their stories are told second hand and beyond; unlike other characters (including Tahm Kench who tells his own story), Poppy ends up bearing witness to the Legend that she created over time. How old she is is not entirely relevant, as the Poppy we play in game is likely just an illusion of the real Poppy.

I see League's new lore a little bit like Smite's, except not really. Whereas Smite's roster is entirely based on gods from real life mythology, League's Legend half of the roster draws from the series own fictional pantheon as it's slowly fleshed out.

but what about Poppy greeting jarvan and garen with admiration, pondering if they are the wielders, if garen and jarvan are set in the present, wouldn't that mean poppy is to.

Lost R1 votes

No, it wouldn't. They have champion interactions to give them personality and not feel like the champions are completely dissociated with who they're fighting with and against. Smite has a similar thing going on with champion interactions, but obviously Ra and Thor are in different pantheons and have never interacted with each other in their respective mythologies.

If it makes you feel any better, imagine this like Fate/Stay Night. Heroes of legend are resurrected in the modern era to do battle.

Tesla Effect1 votes

Riot is constantly hinting at something with champion lores and quotes about this race....there is more than meets the eye with these yordles.

lightdragoon883 votes

Oh..my...god....They are Transformers!!!!

That explains how they were able to make Mecha Aatrox and Mecha Malphite.

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