Leona has Banana Peel Armour!

Solideus··9 votes·6,016 views

Leona is a charming character and I enjoy her a lot on many aesthetic levels; this isn't even about "bad female character design" or anything; she's not at all sexualized, there's just some lady-fine-dress-elements that competes with her armoured-paladin-theme in the wrong way. Her armour is just.. a little bit silly.

If she got a model update, I think giving her a solid breastplate and less floaty-and-bendy armour-pieces would be ideal. Give her shoulder-pieces a more interesting shape. Give that butt-dress some design, replace some of that wine-coloured body-suit with armor-plate and get rid of those heels. Put some layers and overlap on the armour. Some gold areas that aren't stiff enough to be metal might be better of by introducing some other material, which might be good for the colour-scheme of the design either way.

On a personal note, I think it'd be interesting to explore a roman-armour-look for Leona, as well as trying some corinthian-esque patterns on parts of her armour, which is somewhat plain now. That'd be an interesting angle on the greco-roman influences Targon seem to be going for, as well as accentuating her "idolized paragon"-position with fancier armour.


What do you think, other design-preoccupied-forum-lurkers? What do you agree or disagree with, what do you think should happen to Leona's design, what don't you think should happen? Where would you put Leona in the VU priority-que, if at all, and with what scope?

18 Comments

RiotIronStylus18 votes

Perrrrrsssooonnnaallly if there's one thing I'm proud of in her design it's her "prom dress". In no way is it practical, however I can't think of too many character that have an element and strange as it. I honestly will take liberties when it comes to interesting visual landmarks and trump practicality when I think something interesting can be established.

That said if I remade her today I'd probably reexamine the boobplate and the high heels.

darkdill3 votes

Probably the boobplate would be an actual breastplate like what she's wearing in A New Dawn, right?

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Solideus2 votes

I think the prom dress is great too, it's one of her biggest reads! My comment on it only suggested putting some kind of design on it could be cool, but it really gives her a great, distinct silhouette either way!

Solideus3 votes

I just need to say, I really hope I didn't come off as putting Leona's design on blast; she's a great character. I was studying and musing about the details of her design because I like it and it's concept and I'm super interested in character design and such. I'm super excited to see what happens to Targon aesthetically. Some ideas of mine are just from personal taste, and for some things I'm just misunderstanding the details a bit.

I should have written a bit about what I like about the design too, because I do! I really dig your stuff and I'm super interested when I see how your and your peer's values for character design change over the years. Thanks for responding too!

Vistha Kai2 votes
2nd Fiddle2 votes

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That said if I remade her today I'd probably reexamine the boobplate and the high heels.

I feel a need to express a crazy opinion on Leona's boobplate. That is, that I think it works specifically on her.

Let me explain that more, form-fitting/revealing clothes are usually a good visual indicator for an expressive character (see Syndra, Jinx) while armor is typically used to indicate a more guarded, distant character(see Darius, Kayle). I guess what I'm trying to say is, I feel like Leona's boobplate fills the same function as Braum being shirtless. It lets you know that big shield isn't there to protect her.

Rune Ocarina1 votes

Please keep the boobplate :<

Orisi2 votes

I'm a bit torn by that last bit. I actually agree with you about the "prom dress" feel. The sort of extravagance that makes her feel less like a warrior and more like someone in service of the sun first and foremost. That being said, I think that while having the clearly defined boobplate is up for discussion, I'd say having such form-fitting armour goes hand-in-hand with that sort of extravangence, especially for someone whose almost a religious leader as the Light of Dawn.

NemeBro1 votes

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Perrrrrsssooonnnaallly if there's one thing I'm proud of in her design it's her "prom dress". In no way is it practical, however I can't think of too many character that have an element and strange as it. I honestly will take liberties when it comes to interesting visual landmarks and trump practicality when I think something interesting can be established.

That said if I remade her today I'd probably reexamine the boobplate and the high heels.

Oh thank God.

I think Leona has a great design overall despite how impractical her armour would realistically be (League's designs are not realistic, this guy Tryndamere runs around the frigid north baring his manly chest to the elements for no reason other than it looks cool), but I've always disliked the high heels. The boob plate is whatever to me, it's not particularly distracting, and given that her torso appears to not be as heavily armoured as the rest of her it being more form-fitting makes sense, but high heeled armour just bothers me.

Embertine1 votes

I think she should have the iron solari chest piece but in gold, and have actual armor on waist along with her gold skirt thingy. I think that would be enough without changing her too much.

Solideus1 votes

I really like the Iron Solari armour. I'd love it if that informed a future update for the base.

Dextix LT1 votes

I would disagree with this a bit. You see, the armor has to have those "Bendy - floaty" pieces, otherwise how will someone realistically move in it. You cant just encase her in armor. She is also, not really the knight/paladin we are used to. I would imagine her armor a bit like it is now, with some more accents maybe, but i personally wouldnt make it heavier.

Also about the fancy armor. From my understanding Targon people are not really that sofisticated. They are warlike people. And even though Leona is a paragon i wouldnt think they would make fancy armor for her, their main focus would be functionality, not beauty.

Solideus2 votes

The bendy bits are only a problem because they seem to be rendered as metal in the texture; if they were leather it'd be fine. The floaty pieces, the shoulder-pieces for example, would look better being visibly attached to something in some way. Rigid armour seems to solve mobility often by having pieces overlap, which Leona doesn't do a lot.

Your impression of Targon could be the way they'll end up, but I have the impression it's a bit up in the air how they'll be thematically presented until Riot gets to work aesthetically on that faction. Personally I think Leona being dressed in gold already indicates her armor is meant to be pretty fancy, though.

Dextix LT1 votes

Not really. Remember, the Rakkor people pass their weapons down by generations, and the armor leona is wearing is like a relic from the old days of Solari. It is a legendary item. IT is most likely from gold but it is also enchanted and probably has other metals in it.

And the bendy bits can be metal. Just look at our knights armour.

Solideus2 votes

I'm of the impression the details on the Solari are unestablished, and the Rakkor only being slightly more so. Something like a relic-armour is feasible for Leona as well, but the general aesthetics should still be closer to what Diana wears, in that case.

What kind of metal are you referring to that is that flexible? Look at the metal on Leona's stomach; would you be able to point to solid metalwork that could stretch like that? I'm not aware of european knights having stretchy armor available. Plate has slight give, but not enough to accommodate movement and twisting in that way.

Dextix LT1 votes

Well there were a few details about solari given and rakkor people, you can gather them and they are also included in Pantheons and Leonas lore.

I would dare to say that the different design between the armours of Diana and Leona are more reliant on cultural differences. As you know, Lunari were a different culture. So it is only fitting to think that the armor they have is different.

Now about the metal part. First of all, we need to remember that this is runeterra. Not earth, there are different things, and i would not be surprised if there are even different elements. We are talking about a world of magic.

And the erupean knights part. I might have made a mistake, what i meant is that leona can have a bending armor made fully from metal. I mentioned knights because later designes were consisting of hundreds of moving parts. Knights armour from our world, especially the advanced version did not limit the movement of the wearer a lot, they were made in such a way that the armor could be bent in certain places and give freedom of movement.

Also, again, this is the world of magic we are talking about. There can also be a theory that leonas armor as a relic is also enchanced. Or maybe its made from a substance like platinum which is incredibly strong yet light.

Rito Staff1 votes

It doesn't have to be realistic IMO, it's fantasy. She could be wearing a special wedding dress made from a special silk brought once by a bard-like creature from the furthests reaches of the universe.

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