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Question on swains arm?

TheWalkingKFC··14 votes·13,446 views

Is it part of a demon? Was it grown using demon blood? How does this give swain a demons power? Are demons usually powerful? Just gener knowledge on swains demon arm and the demon it came from as well as just general information on demons.

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RiotInterlocutioner35 votes

Swain's writer here. The arm itself is made of pure demonic magic, the same thing he shoots with his Q. It's held together by Swain's force of will and concentration. If you look closely, you'll see there's some opacity to it; it's not solid or grown.

The demonic magic, as a whole, holds Swain together, and helps him overcome the grievous wounds he suffered in Ionia. He has a leg brace and still carries a cane (i.e., has one on hand, just in case), because even a bad ass like Swain knows he can't concentrate 100% of the time. He is the type of man to prepare for contingencies.

The demon is a demon of secrets. It's why Swain hears whispers when he collects souls, and why he's haunted by visions of a dark future. Saying anything more is kind of against demon of secrets policy. [slayer-jinx-wink]

(Sleight edit for clarity above.)

Spideraxe2 votes

What would happen if Swain tried to arm wrestle Darius with the demon hand

General Matty3 votes

He would crush his puny hand as he devours his soul

Spideraxe5 votes

What if he picked his nose

RiotInterlocutioner6 votes

Lol.

nosafterburn1 votes

puts a new spin on "nose goblins".

The Iceborn2 votes

{quoted}

Swain's writer here. The arm itself is made of pure demonic magic, the same thing he shoots with his Q. It's held together by Swain's force of will and concentration. If you look closely, you'll see there's some opacity to it; it's not solid or grown.

The demonic magic, as a whole, holds Swain together, and helps him overcome the grievous wounds he suffered in Ionia. He has a leg brace and still carries a cane (i.e., has one on hand, just in case), because even a bad ass like Swain knows he can't concentrate 100% of the time. He is the type of man to prepare for contingencies.

The demon is a demon of secrets. It's why Swain hears whispers when he collects souls, and why he's haunted by visions of a dark future. Saying anything more is kind of against demon of secrets policy. [slayer-jinx-wink]

(Sleight edit for clarity above.)

Haunted by visions of a dark future? That dark future wouldnt be an ice age now would it? Or fear of a bigger mastermind than him ruling? :)

RiotInterlocutioner7 votes

Dark enough to scare a guy who was inside the Immortal Bastion, eye-to-eyes with a demon.

Raid Boss Morde1 votes

Hmmm maybe something that used to be in the Immortal Bastion? Someone that actually built it? Someone who is stronger and looking to take it back? ;)

mrmeddyman5 votes

Speaking of the Immortal Bastion, any chance new Morde will have some choice words for our birdboy Swain about totally swooping down on his temporarily vacant digs?

LunSeiSleidee1 votes

Are you also the guy responsible of turning Swain from a unique, creative design who turns into a demonbird to a generic anime final boss full of overused tropes?

Your Demon2 votes

{quoted}

Swain's writer here. The arm itself is made of pure demonic magic, the same thing he shoots with his Q. It's held together by Swain's force of will and concentration. If you look closely, you'll see there's some opacity to it; it's not solid or grown.

The demonic magic, as a whole, holds Swain together, and helps him overcome the grievous wounds he suffered in Ionia. He has a leg brace and still carries a cane (i.e., has one on hand, just in case), because even a bad ass like Swain knows he can't concentrate 100% of the time. He is the type of man to prepare for contingencies.

The demon is a demon of secrets. It's why Swain hears whispers when he collects souls, and why he's haunted by visions of a dark future. Saying anything more is kind of against demon of secrets policy. [slayer-jinx-wink]

(Sleight edit for clarity above.)

they should have added this into gameplay , as in when swain is low on health he takes out his cane and starts using it to walk because he cant concentrate because of being injured (low health) tbh would have been a nice addition

Dirgen1 votes

Beautifully written and conceived Interlocutioner nice look at Swain from someone who best knows him ( I am sure if we read his Bio we would all know this too)

DCYOUNG8881 votes

I know I am late in joining this discussion but did Swain decide to nickname the demon of secrets "Beatrice?" I know he has a joke when he feeds his ravens/familiars, "Which one of you is Beatrice again?" I also saw on the wiki that the demon of secrets is named "Beatrice" but I don't see any mention of the name in his lore so far (besides the power of the demon)? What other functions does the demon perform for Swain besides restoring his body and finding secrets and visions from others? Are those ravens we saw in the cinematic actually parts of the demon of secrets?

Also now that Swain is in a hostile relationship with LeBlanc, how did Sion get revived?

LordRedStone Nr12 votes

I would not say the arm gave him demon powers, but it's the other way around: He got demon powers and the demon conveniently replaced bis arm. This demon works with information. We don't know much more about it.

Whyte Lyon1 votes

We dont know a lot, outside of what is already obvious about the functionality of Swain's demon. We'll reveal more all in good time ;-) was pretty much the writing team's attitude towards the topic of Swain's demon.

Maybe we'll learn more about it with Mordekaiser's lore, but there's no guarantee it will be much if at all.

Kazekiba1 votes

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We dont know a lot, outside of what is already obvious about the functionality of Swain's demon. We'll reveal more all in good time ;-) was pretty much the writing team's attitude towards the topic of Swain's demon.

Maybe we'll learn more about it with Mordekaiser's lore, but there's no guarantee it will be much if at all.

One thing's for sure; Cassiopeia and Vladimir won't be acknowledged in any way even if Swain is :)

Whyte Lyon1 votes

Why on earth would Cassio and/or Vlad be relevant to Swain's demon?

Kazekiba1 votes

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Why on earth would Cassio and/or Vlad be relevant to Swain's demon?

I was referring to when Mordekaiser's VGU drops. Cassiopeia Vladimir tend to get neglected whenever Noxus gets new or more lore, so I was making a (light hearted, honest.) joke that Swain, Darius, Le Blanc et all would get expansions on their lore with Morde's update... but not Vlad or Cass.

Whyte Lyon1 votes

Personally, I doubt any Noxian champ will see more lore with Morde's own. Although LeBlanc, Vlad, Veigar and Swain's demon were all around when he was still occupying Valoran. So if any other champ was, it would be no surprise if one of them had a mention or something. Yet I doubt even then, those champs will probably get VO references instead of further lore.

UomoAfide2 votes

Meanwhile our boy Talon has been left ignored by all the big updates on Noxus. Wonder if Riot has any special plans for him. At least Cassio got a brief mention about her return to Noxus after the "Shuriman affair" and Vlad has received a story update that puts him in a very specifical spot.

LunSeiSleidee1 votes

Don't think too much about it. It's there only to look cool.

DrippyBrownHole1 votes

The arm is actually Bad Dragon accessory that is nailed to a stub where his arm used to be. Apparently that was retconned according to @Interlocutioner.

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