The Ruined King

Lord Milutin·Sep 29, 2014·5 votes·2,539 views

Hello fellow summoners. Today, I want to start a discussion on the famous Ruined King of the Shadow Isles. Yes, there have been some threads about his potential identity, but here I want us to present different theories that are plausible. Also, could we finally get a Shadow Isles marksman? Only that spot needs to be filled, since all of the other roles are pretty much filled. And if so, could he be a marksman, probably wielding both a sword and a ranged weapon (working similarly like Jinx's Q). Let the discussion begin! :)

25 Comments

WeeniePIaysSep 30, 20142 votes

Pretty sure the Ruined King is Draven-

Oh, wait. No. He's just the regular King Draven

ObiXLSSep 30, 20142 votes

Hail to the king, ~~baby.~~ Draaaaaven.

GenoXxSep 30, 20142 votes

The Ruined King,...I still wonder if he turned into an undead or a ghost. THe spirits on the altar(the west altar) Gives it out that he is undead and is active. Boy all this for Sion's Rework, how about you guys start with the story telling like u said a month ago..... The Ruined King made a critical choice without thinking about what would happen.. He must be that king from Dark Souls Now

InvalidGuestSep 30, 20142 votes

Well whoever he is he's dead since the new Sion says "This is not the first dead king's weapon I've taken" when he buys a BotRK

Celio Hogane HDSep 30, 20143 votes

He was talking about Jarvan I.

Sneak DogSep 30, 20142 votes

Inhabitants of the shadow isles have some issue staying dead though.

GenoXxSep 30, 20141 votes

Well this says it, The king if there, Sion havin ties to the Isles anyway

The Red WardenSep 30, 20142 votes

Ranged and melee is already filled by the likes of Gangplank and Jayce, so how about a different niche

m1raclesSep 30, 20142 votes

~~Kassadin's daughter~~ I mean Evelynn's father!

Celio Hogane HDSep 30, 20141 votes

Evelynn's mirror sould clone.

The Ruined KingSep 30, 20142 votes

Behold my son, there's a way to save you all, don't you be scared don't be petrified...

DotintheparadoxSep 29, 20141 votes

I think that BORK was originally meant to be a reference to a DOTA character, Wraith King, or Skeleton King as called by older fans.

Although yes, it would be nice to see a legitimate Shadow Isles marksman, instead of just building AD Thresh.

Lord MilutinSep 29, 20141 votes

Yeah, I've heard about that reference too. But we already know that there is a kingly figure in the Shadow Isles, from some AMAs and someone's lore I think. :) I agree, building AD Thresh is fun sometimes, but it is far too unreliable.

DotintheparadoxSep 29, 20142 votes

Well, with the event that tried to happen with Thresh's launch, but sputtered out, I don't think it'll be touched upon soon. However, the king of the Shadow Isles is probably some kind of plague-ridden monstrosity, as evident by his apparently making Mordekaiser.

As for a marksman for the Isles, they'd need to be careful, Riot has at tried pretty hard to make sure they don't have any cut-paste copies of other MOBAs, and DOTA already has an actual skeleton archer in it. I can also imagine anything SI related as being "Broken" on release, just due to the track record of other champs... excluding Mordekaiser Huehuehuehue

DreamspitterSep 30, 20143 votes

Well, with the event that tried to happen with Thresh's launch, but sputtered out, I don't think it'll be touched upon soon. However, the king of the Shadow Isles is probably some kind of plague-ridden monstrosity, as evident by his apparently making Mordekaiser.

As for a marksman for the Isles, they'd need to be careful, Riot has at tried pretty hard to make sure they don't have any cut-paste copies of other MOBAs, and DOTA already has an actual skeleton archer in it. I can also imagine anything SI related as being "Broken" on release, just due to the track record of other champs... excluding Huehuehuehue

Skeleton Archers have existed LOOOONG before Clinkz.

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut-dem Chinese dont like human skeletons which is why Karthus was changed.

So um.....we wont get any Skeletal humans, but NON HUMANS like Jurassic Kogmaw are ok.

DotintheparadoxSep 30, 20142 votes

SKELETON CENTAUR ARCHER TIME!!!!! MAKE MORE HECARIM RITO!

SecretLoreSep 30, 20141 votes

About the marksman: I doubt riot creates champs with a certain role in mind just to give a faction a certain role.

I mean what kind of champ would the marksman be?Just a dude with a ranged and a melee weapon won't make him unique,I mean we have already jayce doing that.

Celio Hogane HDSep 30, 20142 votes

It can be a dude using a sword with range atacks (Magic sword yai)

SecretLoreSep 30, 20141 votes

thing is,that undead dude with magic sword doesn't sound so special. I mean technically you could already say that riven has a magical sword. It may not shoot laser,but it is still filled with magic.

When doing a champ you need to make him/her unique. That means give him a unique personality,a unique playstyle and a unique core concept. Magic sword guy would be the core concept,but not unique,as Riven has this too.

There are still some basic types of undeads that are not really represented here(like a skeletal beast,a real vampire,a ghost or banshee,a death knight,etc.,but those all sound like the stuff for tanks,bruisers or magical champs)

Celio Hogane HDSep 30, 20141 votes

Banshee? Are you talking about senma? kehehehe.

Btw i love banshees.

Valaran NaraSep 30, 20141 votes

thing is,that undead dude with magic sword doesn't sound so special. I mean technically you could already say that riven has a magical sword. It may not shoot laser,but it is still filled with magic.

When doing a champ you need to make him/her unique. That means give him a unique personality,a unique playstyle and a unique core concept. Magic sword guy would be the core concept,but not unique,as Riven has this too.

There are still some basic types of undeads that are not really represented here(like a skeletal beast,a real vampire,a ghost or banshee,a death knight,etc.,but those all sound like the stuff for tanks,bruisers or magical champs)

You know, the only thing keeping me from saying "ranged sword fighter" is Kayle because she has her ability to let her attack at range, BUT!!!

If he naturally attacks at range using his sword would be awesome. And, I don't know any marksman who, say, has their own built in lifesteal.

Which means, he can sustain himself in lane without actually buying the Vampiric Scepter or cutlass. That, would be pretty cool (Though that Bork would make it cray-cray)

Be interesting though because if not done right, he'll appear more like a mage than a marksman, but meh. I'm not a core designer. But, hey. It makes enough sense, right? IT'd explain why Bork is a sought after pick for some marksmen.

DotintheparadoxSep 30, 20141 votes

I'm sorry, that is reserved for Unfortunate Helmet Bro, for when he never becomes a champion.

GenoXxSep 30, 20141 votes

Every time he is given life again, a new champion slaughters him

Valaran NaraOct 3, 20141 votes

But, lore wise, I would like to think that after everything went wrong and the Shadow Isles became the way it is...that The Ruined King didn't come first, but Mordekaiser .

I'll quote his current lore.

"Mordekaiser is a being of pure, living agony on a mysterious dread quest. It is said that he was the first of the undead, existing before the Shadow Isles were a whispered threat. His true name and past lost to history, "

What if Mordekaiser resurrected the Ruined King? Could it not be possible since Mordo's R lets him control the souls of others? What if Mordo brought back the ruined king to control all of the Shadow Isles, and RK happens to be very displeased and wishes to consume the land in darkness. If that's the case, then despite their friendship, it would explain why Hecarim Hecarim gets the message from the West Alter saying, "Be careful Hecarim. Mordekaiser is not to be trusted." Maybe because Heca works for the Ruined King who is actually being controlled and manipulated by the Master of Metal himself? Huh? Huh?