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That wasn't purple smoke

The Stripy Bag··39 votes·15,741 views

This is after I heard a theory from someone and realized it's probably most likely true. So in the Awakened video we see Jhin's traps going off and the mercenaries caught in them explode into purple and blue smoke. The thing is his traps aren't magical like that since we know that when they go off instead what happens is a lot of shrapnel is launched. We also know that Jhin is batshit insane and sees his killing as art like in his teaser and if you look closely at the start the dead people in the seats have Jhin's burning flower coming out of them. So considering all these facts it's most likely not purple and blue smoke we see but rather viscera and blood spraying around the place from Camille's/True point of view plus those mercenaries exploded into the same smoke when Jhin shot them.[sg-ahri-1]

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4 Step Cadence34 votes

Painting the theater would be easier if blood came in more colors.

Latarnia4020 votes

You watched Necrit's video, didn't you?[sg-ahri-2]

The Stripy Bag14 votes

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You watched Necrit's video, didn't you?[sg-ahri-2]

Yeah I did. But seriously though what the f@#$ Ionia?! Jhin goes to jail after murder like 20 people horribly and of his own free will but Yasuo is labelled for death for something he didn't even do?!

kile1473 votes

Maybe it has to do with the war?

"We would normally lock you up, but we don't have the manpower to add to the prisons while also fighting the Noxians."

The Stripy Bag1 votes

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Maybe it has to do with the war?

"We would normally lock you up, but we don't have the manpower to add to the prisons while also fighting the Noxians."

No he got locked up a few years before it.

kile1475 votes

Yasuo? I thought the whole point of his story was that he went out to fight the Noxians instead of protecting the Elder, then got blamed when the Elder was killed.

Tarquin962 votes

Wasnt jhin released from prison to do assassinations?

agac42341 votes

its becuase yasuo "killed" his master.

GelsominoKiller3 votes

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Yeah I did. But seriously though what the f@#$ Ionia?! Jhin goes to jail after murder like 20 people horribly and of his own free will but Yasuo is labelled for death for something he didn't even do?!

Ionia is quite big, and, apparently, extremely dishomogeneous.

They probably don't have a coherent, or even a written law code widely accepted.

More likely cults, traditions, dojos, cabals, various organizations, philosophies, tribes, local leaders and elders... They hold a big influence and can do whatever they please as long as there is agreement between the parts.

Yasuo was member of some samurai/warrior code/organization, and when he was suspected of murder, said order decided to demand his head.

In Jhin's case, he was "arrested" by Kusho, a notorious pacifist, philosopher, and leader of a widely respected ninja order. And it is stated explicitly in lore if I recall correctly that it was his firm decision to deliberately use all his influence in order to spare Jhin, in open conflict with Zed, and in less adamant disagreement with his own son Shen.

Yraco1 votes

labelled for death for something he didn't even do?!

Just remember that often the people reading/watching a story know things the characters don't, we know Yasuo is innocent but all the evidence did point towards him.

The Stripy Bag1 votes

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Just remember that often the people reading/watching a story know things the characters don't, we know Yasuo is innocent but all the evidence did point towards him.

I know it's cause it was done by a wind technique but they also ignored the big ass piece of shrapnel in his neck from Riven's sword. I mean the coroner literally asked his masters if they should bring this up when they found it but they said no.

The Trent7 votes

I'm pretty sure Jhin likes to make killing beautiful by adding things like colorful smoke. He sees killing as a thing that can be beautiful, that doesn't mean that there aren't deaths that are ugly to him. Otherwise, I'm sure he'd be more of a go to war and murder everyone type, not a perfectly planned kill assassin type. Also, a lot of weapons and traps from zaun/ piltover are fueled by magical hextech crystals. That was shown in the scene where Camille breaks in (this was my favorite scene in the entire cinimatic, it was so cool), those weapons were obviously hextech fueled. I wouldn't doubt that when these crystals explode they create smoke like most things do.

Painting is a form of art, but some painters hate certain painting styles. I know a few artists that think that abstract isn't a real form of painting. Same thing probably applies to Jhin. He wants death to be perfect and honestly I think he accomplished that because the scene looked beautiful to me and most viewers. He wants his work to be seen by everyone (literal quote from him), so if his work was just a bunch of blood flying everywhere that obviously wouldn't be much of a show. He's insane but I'm pretty sure he doesn't have scizophrenia.

4 Step Cadence7 votes

None of what Jhin makes is real. Its just what he sees. This is why he's the only one that appreciates it, because he's the only one that can see it for what it truly is. While everyone else sees a room sprayed with blood, Jhin sees a field of golden flowers, ect.

Also, I don't think Jhin's traps are Hextech. Pretty sure the only Hextech he has is the thing on his shoulder, because he finds Hextech to be a crude imitation of magic.

The Trent5 votes

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None of what Jhin makes is real. Its just what he sees. This is why he's the only one that appreciates it, because he's the only one that can see it for what it truly is. While everyone else sees a room sprayed with blood, Jhin sees a field of golden flowers, ect.

Also, I don't think Jhin's traps are Hextech. Pretty sure the only Hextech he has is the thing on his shoulder, because he finds Hextech to be a crude imitation of magic.

I mean it's a possibility, but are there literal quotes for these delusions? Obviously there are quotes for him finding beauty in death, but I feel like if he saw things others didn't, there would be more evidence by now. Personally, I find an assassin that sets up traps that explode in colorful smoke in a perfectly planned way to be more thematically attractive than someone who is just scizophrenic. Jhin has been confirmed to use magic in his gun/ bullets. Magic pulsates from the gun's core and he infuses magic into every bullet. These are literal facts you could look up in his lore. He also uses the sort of spirit connected magic with his fists. He used to kill people with blades, but then he would use "chi" to make it beautiful.

This is 80% fact and then he includes 20% theory at the bottom but you should look at this for a better understanding: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/EskMrPX2-a-look-at-how-jhins-gun-whisper-might-work-and-how-he-creates-his-art

Also you should look at this convo:

"It's a nice thread, but sadly, I'm fairly certain it doesn't apply. Jhin seeing flowers/trees/beautiful art is only something he sees. It's his delusion of sorts. Everyone else still sees the horribly mangled bodies."

"A rioter, during his Q and A confirmed that the bullets transform the victims flesh. It is not delusion at all."

Here's the Q&A: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/zZEsex0P-jhins-color-text-qa-thread

I couldn't find the exact comment because all the links were broken but this was the question asked: "So Jhin's bullets literally shape his victims' flesh into artwork of his choosing, the trees and such?"

This was the rioters response: "yep. Or turn the parts of flesh to gold, or make it move, and other things. It is macabre.."

So I think I just debunked the delusion theory, yay me.

Lewanor1 votes

I'm pretty sure WaaarghBOBO once said(I hope i'm not crediting the wrong Rioter) it is disgusting, disturbing and maddening but really beautiful in some way at the same time.

He is truly avant-garde.

Camille Ferrøs6 votes

When the trap on the chandelier went off there was nothing there and yet there was purple smoke.

4 Step Cadence3 votes

I don't think there was a trap up there. I think Jhin just imagined there was for "dramatic effect", because honestly, how the fuck would he get a trap up there?

Camille Ferrøs4 votes

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I don't think there was a trap up there. I think Jhin just imagined there was for "dramatic effect", because honestly, how the fuck would he get a trap up there?

There was one. In the second shot of that scene you can see a purple glow.

4 Step Cadence2 votes

How in the fuck...?

Camille Ferrøs4 votes

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How in the fuck...?

Looks pretty not imagined if you ask me.

4 Step Cadence4 votes

But, like, how did he even get it up there?

So the explosion is real, but he's still imagining how it "looks". Its just that instead of body parts and blood becoming purple smoke, its glass and metal.

Camille Ferrøs4 votes

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But, like, how did he even get it up there?

So the explosion is real, but he's still imagining how it "looks". Its just that instead of body parts and blood becoming purple smoke, its glass and metal.

If we are going with the traps are just blenders theory then the chandelier wouldn't explode like that. Nor get triggered at all.

GenoXx5 votes

Jhin's gun actually transforms people's flesh. So no surprised if he blew those guys into purple smoke. It's been stated that time and time again. The traps he had and the smoke there was actually there....not just in his imagination.

GreenLore1 votes

Or it could be both? The traps transform the victims into purple smoke,but the process is actually far more brutal than what we were shown.

GenoXx1 votes

Brutality is his specialty. Of course it's part of the whole process, i can't imagine what kind of pain the victims feel. But from what was shown in that cinematic, I'm sure we weren't just looking at his view point. Even the whole scene with camille walking in felt realtime.

The Stripy Bag3 votes

Oh god just think back on it now or rewatch with that in mind.

Camille Ferrøs3 votes

Yeah but when they were going off the sharp thingies would go everywhere not just on the person that stepped on it. And since Camille was near them especially the one triggered the trap and she came out alive...

The Stripy Bag4 votes

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Yeah but when they were going off the sharp thingies would go everywhere not just on the person that stepped on it. And since Camille was near them especially the one triggered the trap and she came out alive...

But remember they have a 4 second delay and they only really go off towards the end when Camille is coming down on Jhin. The only mercenaries that exploded before that were the ones Jhin shot.

Camille Ferrøs5 votes

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But remember they have a 4 second delay and they only really go off towards the end when Camille is coming down on Jhin. The only mercenaries that exploded before that were the ones Jhin shot.

Is there a delay in the lore ¿

The Stripy Bag4 votes

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Is there a delay in the lore ¿

I'm fairly certain there is since he also uses them to measure distance from his targets and if they went off right away I don't Camille would have made it out of the blast zone if they didn't have one. Plus we see those guys step into a traps and they don't go off like a land mine it instead starts to charge up after latching on.

Camille Ferrøs3 votes

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I'm fairly certain there is since he also uses them to measure distance from his targets and if they went off right away I don't Camille would have made it out of the blast zone if they didn't have one. Plus we see those guys step into a traps and they don't go off like a land mine it instead starts to charge up after latching on.

But even if they had one why would she run toward more traps that were just triggered ¿ When she noticed that there were traps her people that were far away from her just stepped on it. So when she ran toward Jhin she had to pass by the traps that were about to go on in the same second.

The Stripy Bag4 votes

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But even if they had one why would she run toward more traps that were just triggered ¿ When she noticed that there were traps her people that were far away from her just stepped on it. So when she ran toward Jhin she had to pass by the traps that were about to go on in the same second.

Did you just ask why Camille took the shortest most sure fire route to get within melee range of Jhin? Also maybe because would you rather try to find a longer route that could have more traps on it while also getting shot at by a ranged opponent or risk the detention time being delayed enough for you to grapple hook onto the ceiling and get a leap onto your opponent? Plus if her troops already sent off those traps, which she most likely doesn't know how they work exactly, it means she has a cleared pathway to the stage since they already set them off. Sort of like when minions set off a trap in lane are you gonna walk around the minions?

Camille Ferrøs3 votes

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Did you just ask why Camille took the shortest most sure fire route to get within melee range of Jhin? Also maybe because would you rather try to find a longer route that could have more traps on it while also getting shot at by a ranged opponent or risk the detention time being delayed enough for you to grapple hook onto the ceiling and get a leap onto your opponent? Plus if her troops already sent off those traps, which she most likely doesn't know how they work exactly, it means she has a cleared pathway to the stage since they already set them off. Sort of like when minions set off a trap in lane are you gonna walk around the minions?

Just as she is running past the explosions traps going on and shooting big sharp mental petals and she somehow is untouched ¿

The Stripy Bag4 votes

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Just as she is running past the explosions traps going on and shooting big sharp mental petals and she somehow is untouched ¿

They weren't going off though they were charging up before going off since they have that delay.

Camille Ferrøs3 votes

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They weren't going off though they were charging up before going off since they have that delay.

As she started running and by the time she was next to them the delay ended.. Since ~~purple and blue ~~ blood explosions

4 Step Cadence4 votes

Yeah...? They didn't go off immediately when the men stepped on them. They clamped down on their feet and rooted them in place with magic before exploding, which I imagine would take about 4 seconds, give or take.

I explained it in my story like this;

The captain of the team broke the door open and the team stormed into the theater, the piano melody Jhin played seeming to choreograph their steps. As they moved through the rows, checking for hostages, the traps sensed their life energy and came to life, now armed. It was then that one of the Wardens stepped on a trap. It snapped shut on his foot, its serrated blades cutting into his leg, sending magic surging up the veins of it and turning it gold, rooting him in place. The more he struggled, the deeper the blades cut, and the more magic they released into his bloodstream.

Though again, this isn't canon, but that's just how I imagine the traps work in lore.

Flashes1 votes

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Yeah but when they were going off the sharp thingies would go everywhere not just on the person that stepped on it. And since Camille was near them especially the one triggered the trap and she came out alive...

Camille is made of metal at this point. Plus she has adaptive defenses.

Camille Ferrøs1 votes

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Camille is made of metal at this point. Plus she has adaptive defenses.

But did we see that in the video that we are refering to ¿

Flashes1 votes

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But did we see that in the video that we are refering to ¿

Yes. If you look at her eye colors, she's addressing the threat by changing them from orange to blue.

Camille Ferrøs1 votes

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Yes. If you look at her eye colors, she's addressing the threat by changing them from orange to blue.

We didn't see a giant shield activate that would block the petals if there were some.

Boiled Triangles3 votes

Actually, it was purple haze.

ModCaptainMårvelous2 votes

An interesting theory (Possibly fact?) about Jhin is that his gun is from Ionia. Now, you may be wondering "hold on, but Ionia isn't exactly a technologically advanced place". Which is true. So we have to consider one of two things:

A.) Ionia got their hands on tech/Jhin grabbed some in Zaun/Piltover B.) His gun is magical.

Now, if you recall from the cinematic, Jhin wasn't exactly firing "bullets" per say but rather magically charged rounds. Another interesting thing is if you look at the gun itself, it's made of some sort of "white stone" material....similar to Lucian's guns. Now, it'd be a stretch, but what if Jhin's bullets are actually just magical energy? What if the items and creations he makes aren't so much traps but rather arcane lures that lock people into place?

Of course the obvious flaw is that he reloads. To which I say it's either him "reloading" not with bullets but with energy or possibly releasing the gun's energy and letting it refuel the "magic" stores.

No matter how you slice it, Jhin's weaponry borders on the magical and I'd love to see more information on how Whisper works.

Eternal Torment2 votes

Actually the gun and the bullets aren't really magical. The material used to built the gun, which does come from Ionia, contains certain magical properties, but in no controllable sense. It's like the fact that Ice is cold and it gives off a cold aura which you can't control.

Jhin basically uses the magical property to imbed his bullets with the immediate outlet of magic before he fires, hence giving the feel that he is using magic in his weaponry.

I swear, this madman keeps on surprising me with how genius he is.

ModCaptainMårvelous1 votes

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Actually the gun and the bullets aren't really magical. The material used to built the gun, which does come from Ionia, contains certain magical properties, but in no controllable sense. It's like the fact that Ice is cold and it gives off a cold aura which you can't control.

Jhin basically uses the magical property to imbed his bullets with the immediate outlet of magic before he fires, hence giving the feel that he is using magic in his weaponry.

I swear, this madman keeps on surprising me with how genius he is.

Damn that's sick.

GudLunchHavFries1 votes

I saw purple smoke and clicked thinking this was some elaborate Jojo reference (Fugo's stand in Jojo part 5 is called Purple Smoke in the anime)

but you still make a great point.

General Esdeath 1 votes

At least credit Necrit come on man :(

Cubical1 votes

If you remember his teaser video his kills have multiple different effects, and its impossible to incorporate so many different features in to a 4 ability kit. Its very possible that the traps to release that smoke like that for this instance.

GreenLore1 votes

While that is true, it has also been confirmed that the killings in the teaser were from Jhins perspective and that he saw them differently than what they truly were.

However you are also correct in that Jhin can add a bunch of magical effects to his gadgets,so either interpretation could be right.

Vlada Cut1 votes

Agree. Necrit did make a fair point there.

Stars Shaper1 votes

Jhin: "This would be easier if blood came in more colours..."

I guess he found a compromise.

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