Is there an ETA on Morgana's (Kayle's) story?

Derenik·May 20, 2016·10 votes·3,844 views

http://img13.deviantart.net/229f/i/2014/309/b/e/angel_sisters___kayle_x_morgana_by_monorirogue-d85cmo8.jpg

Would love to find out more about her! :D

8 Comments

DarkRitualMay 21, 20164 votes

Story, VU, and Voice rework on both would be fantastic. It's sad for one of my favorite champions Morgana to have one easily one of the worst Emote sets in the game.

KnightofMorriganMay 21, 20161 votes

Copy paste from another thread about what Morgana feels like to me, as I know Riot teams highly value understanding player's views of what is important to a character. Slightly edited for clarity. (In hopes of the reds coming!): "As a Morgana main, when i first read her pre-retcon lore, my reaction was "I'm using power feared by the rest of my society to show them the error of their ways. I will destroy this tyranny and evil hidden behind the guise of good intentions. They will see the error of their ways, the only question is whether they will have to die to do it."

But when i learned that was all no longer canon, the feeling was just "HAHAH YOU CAN'T DO SHIT BITCH! It's fun to have you die slowly and make you watch it, unable to do anything. You didn't expect it, and now you will never be able to expect anything again." Just Sadistic.

They're two very distinct and seperate feelings. The old Morgana felt very much like a darker, more gothic, more terrrifying version of what Illaoi does (sorta) only less focused on people having to change, and solely focused on cleaning out the corruption/making people embrace/confront their shadowselves. Not really like a magical angel batman, but you get what i mean. This no lore Morgana is just being sadistic because you wanna be. That's not a bad thing, it's just not what I felt the character was, and between the kit and the original lore, that first tone really stuck with me."

Edit: any cool ideas on where you want/think they will find a place for them in Runeterra? They've beeen trying to relocate all the champs into mainstream runeterra, but honestly I much prefer Morgana/Kayle as being from something beyond Runeterra. This way they're above and beyond all the bullshit (even the aspect and ascended demi gods politics), also cause as a tabletop player I love characters creating setting, and having those unique domains for themselves.

Random thought: since Morgana/Kayle are basically angels of absolution in one way or the other, Kayle is an angel of say Law, and the Morgana an Angel of Chaos? It's not a great idea, but it is a better starting place than say, Good and Evil. (I hate the premise that Morgana is evil, she has never been based on her original lore, she was simply turned into that after it was retconned and due to tropes. Fallen is just a label [and attempt at derision] of those who refuse to see things any differently than themselves! Fallen to Earth is better than being High and Mighty.)

Also perhaps Morgana/Kayle get turned into eternalish primordial style characters in the new lore? Say ones from Runeterra's beginning/creation. Forces perpetually meant to battle for all eternity or some shit. Similar to a Bard/Kindredish sorta peep.

Warlord DienekesMay 21, 20162 votes

Well hope they listen to you and you end up liking the route they'll take your favorite champion.

As to me, my guess for where they'll fit is they're the other 2 Darkin mentioned in Aatrox's lore. They have the same winged body structure and their designs look like they could easily be immortal beings that represent some aspect of life and manipulating men to act in certain ways.

KnightofMorriganMay 21, 20162 votes

See the weird thing about Aatrox currently (im not super into Aatrox, so there may be a caveat I'm not understanding), but i feel like his schtick (and the schtick of the Darkin Race) was just appropriated into the Lore for Targonia. If they do take it the Darkin route, they'll need to really hammer out the differences between Darkin and Aspects, and the dynamics /parallelism between the two. Maybe Aspects are actually fairly new. Sorta like, celestial aliens more akin to the Ascended, and the Darkin are in fact Ancient beings, maybe more chaotic like Proteans. Perhaps even Ancestors to the Aspects.

They'll need something that makes them stand out, instead of just being another pantheon of gods.

Warlord DienekesMay 21, 20161 votes

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See the weird thing about Aatrox currently (im not super into Aatrox, so there may be a caveat I'm not understanding), but i feel like his schtick (and the schtick of the Darkin Race) was just appropriated into the Lore for Targonia. If they do take it the Darkin route, they'll need to really hammer out the differences between Darkin and Aspects, and the dynamics /parallelism between the two. Maybe Aspects are actually fairly new. Sorta like, celestial aliens more akin to the Ascended, and the Darkin are in fact Ancient beings, maybe more chaotic like Proteans. Perhaps even Ancestors to the Aspects.

They'll need something that makes them stand out, instead of just being another pantheon of gods.

Oh yeah. I definitely think the Aspects and the Darkin are too similar I made a few joke posts about that myself.

A few corrections though the Ascended are tied to the Space Targonians which are not new space invaders. They are just things from Runeterra that spread out of the solar system before the current crop of things on Runeterra. If anything they're likely older than Darkin, I think. I don't know for sure.

Anyway, other than my problems with Targon as a whole. I hope whatever they do choose to do with Kayle and Morg suits you.

NeameanMay 22, 20161 votes

Yea I've always seen them as Order and Chaos, Where Kayle belief that order above all else have made her perceive as a tyrant by Morgana. As for Morgana her belief and wants for freedom is the embodiment of Chaos. To have freedom is to accept chaos. Now although she Morgana believe in freedom she was force into a corner by her kin and resorted to dark magic which change her.

In the beginning Morgana wanted freedom now only for her but her kin as well but every since she accepted the dark forces she has become more selfish and her primary objective is her own freedom. At least that how I see it or how I want her to be.

As for Kayle she could still have feeling for her sister and in one of their final confrontation Kayle gave Morgana an ultimatum. To return home or to be disown by her. This act show her compassion but it also would tell us that Kayle will always hold up to Order.

I would like them to be something like this where they are neither good or evil but flawed they are not perfect Morgana want for freedom but can be corrupt and Kayle belief in order push away her emotion.

KnightofMorriganMay 22, 20161 votes

Granted, if there was that sort of final confrontation, we'd have to be sure that there was a similar sort of thing on Morgana's side. A similarly appropriate extension for her character. Their world is in a civil war. Narratively the choice has to be made of HOW "human" they are. Do they experience all the same sort of emotions and flaws, similar to deities in, say, Greek mythology (the drama :p), or are they very inhuman. Cold, calculating, firm to their stances. That is to say they are manifestations of their ideals rather than simply having ideals.

Honestly, this sorta rings to me like any traditional US Civil war story (except take out the whole slavery and racism stuff that caused it), where you have brother against brother (or in this case sister against sister), and neither want to fight each other, but both know they have to. Except that analogy probably doesn't work because both sisters here truly want the other dead.

NeameanMay 23, 20161 votes

If there were to be something similar to Morg side I would say that she would have to compromise or chose to be selfish to reach her own freedom. She must abandon her want to free other to be able to free herself. This also explain her abilities in game where she lock people down with soul shackles and dark binding. This also show that the sister all the same because deep down it all about what they want as long as Morgana have freedom she don't care about what other want or need and as long as Kayle can maintain order she don't care what the people want or need.