Baum and Ornn Lore Conflict?

Daisieheart·Aug 19, 2017·1 votes·1,766 views

Hello all, I have just read the short story "The Lost Tales of Ornn" and i am a bit confused, after reading the story i remembered something from Braum's story and decided to reread it . In Braum's story it says ''What he didn't know was that the vault was a trap. The Ice Witch had cursed it, and as the troll boy entered, the magical door clanged shut behind him! It locked him inside! Try as he might, he couldn't escape." however in Ornn's lore it says that he created the door after being tricked by a troll and it was meant to protect the troll's treasure. So i have a few questions about this, was this a different door that just so happened to be made with a rams head and impenetrable or did the Ice Witch curse it at a later date? Also how did the troll boy open the door if the ancient troll who original tricked Ornn was never able to open it? If anyone can give me some answers or speculation i would appreciate it, also i am not good with keeping up on discussions so if this has already been addressed i would appreciate a link to the addressed post please and thank you. Riot is pretty good with keeping their lore in tact IMO, but they have retconned some lore and i am wondering are they planning on retconning Braum's with the release of Orn's lore? I would hate to think they simple forgot Braum's story and now there is a conflict but perhaps they are planning a more in depth story to explain how it went from the origin of the door and to the point where Braum acquires it.

6 Comments

Whyte LyonAug 19, 20176 votes

It's very intentional don't worry. Just remember Ornn's story is actually mythology shared from word of mouth. So yes, his lore is very inconstant, confusing and more then likely fictional compared to the facts of other champion's lore.

DaisieheartAug 19, 20171 votes

oh i see, thank you for pointing this out to me as i hadn't considered that and simply took it all as fact but i should have realized it since the old woman in the story says it is a "forgotten" story at least 3 times haha.

ChompyWulfAug 19, 20172 votes

I was also going to point out that in Ornn's tales, one boy claims they can't be true and the storyteller didn't correct him.

Sensei OchibaAug 21, 20172 votes

Bare in mind, Braum's story was also just a folktale being told by a grandmother as a bedtime story, so it's hard to call his lore "fact" either

DaisieheartAug 22, 20171 votes

yeah i guess they both have to be taken with a grain of salt because they were both in legend story form

SolarisCorvusAug 21, 20171 votes

Also the story could be true. Because lissandras magic could have eroded the door enough to the point that it was possible to open. You can see on braums shield that his door is missing a horn. So it will eventually break down over time and has already begun to do so.