Aatrox and Illaoi

TyroneWatermelon·Nov 14, 2015·25 votes·19,698 views

As we can see in the files and in the wiki,Illaoi has a special interaction with Aatrox; "We know your true name,we do not fear you" Any info Riot please?????

128 Comments

TurquoiseYoshiNov 15, 201537 votes

My favorites of them are her sexual advances on Braum.

"There are motions I would like to show you" "Finally, a man who won't break" "I know you are strong. I wonder if you have stamina" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

59CrowkenNov 15, 20153 votes

Lol, try painting that image in your head

TurquoiseYoshiNov 15, 20152 votes

Why bother when I can wait a few weeks for pics to start popping up?

DreamspitterNov 15, 20151 votes

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Why bother when I can wait a few weeks for pics to start popping up?

Pics of what?

VulcanIsHereNov 15, 20157 votes

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) you'll see, if you look ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

DreamspitterNov 15, 201519 votes

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Lol, try painting that image in your head

Someone will paint it in real life.

TyroneWatermelonNov 15, 20153 votes

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My favorites of them are her sexual advances on Braum.

"There are motions I would like to show you" "Finally, a man who won't break" "I know you are strong. I wonder if you have stamina" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

"You,I like"

philimixNov 16, 20151 votes

Well braum did rescue a girl in the mountains which is probabaly ashe and ashe and illao could be sisters dumb thought thou*[slayer-jinx-unamused]*

DreamspitterNov 16, 20151 votes

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Well braum did rescue a girl in the mountains which is probabaly ashe and ashe and illao could be sisters dumb thought thou*[slayer-jinx-unamused]*

Braum did rescue kid Trundle

philimixNov 16, 20151 votes

he did?

GreenLoreJul 7, 20161 votes

He rescued a troll child. It is unknown if that is trundle or not.

SharjoNov 14, 201515 votes

I'd imagine it's knowledge gleaned from either Nagakabouros, ancient history kept on Buhru, or teachings of Illaoi's religion. Either way it makes sense a God described as being in everything would know the true nature of the Darkin.

Makes me wonder what the "true name" part means. Perhaps like demons, the Darkin existed differently in the time prior to them interacting with humans.

RiotWAAARGHboboNov 15, 201512 votes

TyroneWatermelonNov 15, 20154 votes

Btw guys,Illaoi's quote for Rek'sai: "You ugly thing,only fools made you"(or something like that) is more suited towards Urgot

Hmmm I wonder what does Illaoi thinks of Shaco Vladimir skarber and such creatures

RiotWAAARGHboboNov 15, 201517 votes

Worth nothing. Rek'Sai was the first champ beat punchbeef and I worked on together.

SharjoNov 15, 20151 votes

So was Rek'Sai: Scourge of the Sands written by you WAAARGHbobo? Or at least primarily written by you? If so then you did a bang up job! If not then whoever did write it did a bang up job!

On another note I suppose the line about Rek'Sai being made is kind of an off handed remark towards Shurima for letting a creature like Rek'Sai continue to exist in the world; they perpetuated her design by allowing this infection to grow so to speak.

RiotWAAARGHboboNov 15, 20156 votes

Yep, it was. Thank you!

Yep. Well spotted. Many lines have a hidden meaning and a literal meaning.

I try to hide layers when I can

SharjoNov 15, 20151 votes

DAMMIT WAAARGHbobo now I'm stuck here wondering about hidden meanings. GAH.

On that note I'm wondering if the Aatrox line is more about Illaoi understanding Aatrox as a being and his motivations. "We know your true name" isn't so much Aatrox having a name he's not telling people (even though that might be a thing), but more of a "We know what you are and what you truly want" kinda deal. I understand you, thus I don't fear you is the vibe I'm getting.

RalanrNov 15, 20152 votes

Aatrox makes others give into bloodlust and feeds off of that (from what I can tell). Illaoi knows his power and knows not to give in.

MelledoneusNov 15, 20152 votes

By "true name" she actually means what his weaknesses are. A name is usually an indicator that you know something and can thus understand and defeat it. If a creature has no name, it becomes much scarier and seemingly unbeatable because you don't know about it.

Illaoi knowing Aatrox's "true name" means that she knows more about him, thus she knows how to combat and resist his power.

TyroneWatermelonNov 16, 20151 votes

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By "true name" she actually means what his weaknesses are. A name is usually an indicator that you know something and can thus understand and defeat it. If a creature has no name, it becomes much scarier and seemingly unbeatable because you don't know about it.

Illaoi knowing Aatrox's "true name" means that she knows more about him, thus she knows how to combat and resist his power.

I wonder if there will be a battle of Aatrox/Ascendant/Iceborn/Celestial/Tahm kench/Kindred/Anivia vs Illaoi and nagakabourus. Honestly I think all of them can beat Illaoi,but only Aatrox,Bard,Tahm kench and Kibdred can beat nagakabourus

DaedricTerror13Nov 24, 20152 votes

There is a quote in aatrox's ultimate (when you reverse it you hear the words)

And you can make him out saying "I will lead the freljord"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCaXnG7y368 00:38 it starts

TyroneWatermelonNov 24, 20151 votes

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There is a quote in aatrox's ultimate (when you reverse it you hear the words)

And you can make him out saying "I will lead the freljord"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCaXnG7y368 00:38 it starts

Seen this video and even started my own thread long time go. Cant hear "i will lead the freljord" but its the reverse of some of his quotes

LordGeovanniAug 19, 20161 votes

you cruriously left out targon unless you emant them as the celstain to which i think soraka

DaedricTerror13Nov 24, 20151 votes

Well in Latin Aatrox means "Cruel, Savage, Atrocity" which is why they named him such.

Hes viewed as like a divine and good creature by those he inspires but then when he leaves people realised the brutality they had commited.

She is saying that she doesn't fall for his facade and sees the dark creature he is.

Axis the DragonNov 15, 20158 votes

I think you meant "worth noting", not "worth nothing" =P

Ebonmaw DragonNov 14, 20152 votes

Im pretty sure that Aatrox is his true name... in other hand, that quote would more sense towards TahmKench

SharjoNov 14, 20151 votes

I actually tested it on the pbe myself as part of a two person team to figure out where all those lines went, and that line is indeed for Aatrox. Illaoi has no other taunts for him and Tahm has his own specific ones.

Makes me curious...

Ebonmaw DragonNov 14, 20152 votes

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I actually tested it on the pbe myself as part of a two person team to figure out where all those lines went, and that line is indeed for Aatrox. Illaoi has no other taunts for him and Tahm has his own specific ones.

Makes me curious...

Oh thanks for testing... by the way.... "Why would I need a spirit's help? I am guided by Nagakabouros." is a taunt for the yordles?

... because, i dont get it.

SharjoNov 14, 20153 votes

Apparently. That one weirded me out too. I'm tempted to go back and double check it because I had half a mind that one was for Udyr.

EDIT: Went and double checked and it checks out - a line for Yordles.

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

RalanrNov 14, 20152 votes

Aatrox could just be the name he goes by currently. It's possible that he's changed his name or finds no real reason to remember names. His remembered by his actions, which become shrouded in myth.

Actually this somewhat bothers me about Aatrox. Where does he go when there are no wars? His presence is shrouded in myth, which means that he's not someone you'll see often. But look at him, he sticks out like a sore thumb. Does he have an ability to change his appearance?

ShénzhìNov 14, 20152 votes

May be similar place from where Soraka and Bard come from.

TyroneWatermelonNov 15, 20151 votes

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Aatrox could just be the name he goes by currently. It's possible that he's changed his name or finds no real reason to remember names. His remembered by his actions, which become shrouded in myth.

Actually this somewhat bothers me about Aatrox. Where does he go when there are no wars? His presence is shrouded in myth, which means that he's not someone you'll see often. But look at him, he sticks out like a sore thumb. Does he have an ability to change his appearance?

Or location My most wanted theory is wtf is Jax and when Riot will finish rewriting his lore,as stated in the start of SEASON FICKING 4

RalanrNov 15, 20151 votes

Personally I really want to see Jax fight Aatrox. Jax is suppose to be this beyond legendary warrior (though he's also a nameless mercenary, which I also like) and Aatrox is someone who thrives with war, with fighting. He could see Jax as one of the ultimate challenges. Heck he should be itching to fight Jax.

One thing that I'd find interesting is if Jax was someone whose presence ended confrontation. Aatrox shows up to help the losing side, but he prolongs the conflict until it has run its course. Jax shows up and ends it.

I don't know. Really I'm just spitballing. Before the retcon I had a headcannon where Jax was an agent of the IoW (Maybe even the grand summoner) secretly working to keep things working. I had a story idea involving the void invading (which starts with Cho'gath deciding his bored with the league now and breaks out) which leads Jax and a bunch of other IoW champions tasked to not only stopping the void, but uniting every faction they can to fight them.

I'm rambling at this point. I do hope they make Jax an ancient warrior when they write the new lore. An immortal warrior that travels the world, remembered and forgotten over the course of a thousand years, and turning the tides of battles? Jax and Aatrox can fit this concept well.

MelledoneusNov 16, 20152 votes

Sorry to say it, but Jax was an "unremarkable soldier-for-hire" before joining the League. He wasn't special, and was only powerful because he was against champions like Annie and Blitzcrank who were very much plausible to beat. Aatrox, however, is essentially a god of war. He thrives on conflict, and his existence revolves around it. Jax would stand no chance.

RalanrNov 16, 20151 votes

Being an unremarkable warrior for hire doesn't he was bad at combat. He could have been bad at following orders (which given his ego is plausible). Plus Master Yi was a champion during that time as well.

New champions aren't automatically stronger than previous ones. Illaoi isn't lore wise stronger than Kindred.

Plus we're talking about a lore retcon. For all we know, The Darkin aren't a thing, Annie's parents are no longer from Noxus, TF never dated Eve, and Jax could be an immortal figure that really gets noticed every few centuries before disappearing again.

MelledoneusNov 16, 20151 votes

Jax doesn't show that kind of ancient wisdom or age through his speech, though. He's arrogant, rash, and overall a jerk (kind of). Figures like Aatrox, Anivia, Lissandra, Azir, Zilean, Nasus, and Maokai are all refined in their speech and choose their words carefully. If Jax was ancient, he would know better and wouldn't be all "come at me bro" in true Brolaf fashion.

Although, Renekton is an exception to that rule, but he's kind of insane, so there's that.

RalanrNov 16, 20151 votes

How old was Wukong before he might Master Yi? Plus if we look at the original Wukong (The Monkey king which our Wukong is based on) he was an ancient before he went on a quest to gain wisdom.

MelledoneusNov 16, 20151 votes

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How old was Wukong before he might Master Yi?

Well, let's see...

Kong was driven by an unquenchable desire for greatness. He sought out every beast and monster the Plague Jungles could offer, eager to find a worthy opponent, but none offered the challenge he craved. He asked the sage for advice, and learned about a legend of hairless monkeys to the north who, with wits and might, had bent the world to their will.

It doesn't seem like it took him long to exhaust the jungle of its wonders, so he simply left. Additionally, the sage was still alive (and old) from when Wukong was created, so it would seem that it wasn't long, seeing as how short monkeys live.

RalanrNov 16, 20151 votes

Doesn't account for the character in "A journey to the west"

MelledoneusNov 16, 20151 votes

You have to remember they base their champions loosely off real figures, not have their exact same story.

I mean, you don't see Vayne riding a batmobile.

RalanrNov 16, 20151 votes

That's not why I am referring to that story. I'm referring to it because being ancient doesn't exactly make you wise. Especially if all you've done in your long live is screw around.

MelledoneusNov 16, 20151 votes

I mean, Wukong isn't considered ancient by anyone. However, battle makes ancient figures wise and regretful. Kayle is wise, and while she shares Jax's arrogance she is self-conscious and guilty of her actions. Thus, she hides her face so that she feels a disconnection between herself and her opponent.

Jax just wears a mask because why the hell not.

RalanrNov 16, 20151 votes

Ok, when I say Wukong, I don't mean MonkeyKing . I mean Sun Goku from journey to the west.

MelledoneusNov 17, 20151 votes

Well, we're talking about Runeterra lore. Writers each have their own way of defining concepts, and Riot has shown that their "ancient" characters are either wiser than most, or just simply gone mad with power.

RalanrNov 17, 20151 votes

Doesn't mean they can't expand on the archetype.

DaedricTerror13Nov 24, 20151 votes

No Aatrox fits this lore, Jax is just a random.

kJsNov 15, 20153 votes

You're missing a big part of Aatrox. Aatrox doesn't just live in war, he creates them.

His lore clearly expresses that. He loves creating discord and conflict and fucking people's mind up to a point where they lust for violence and war.

Aatrox wanders around the world, probably flies around the world or has a secret Darkin homebase to go back to in the short intervals of conflicts that he's participating in or is creating.

DaedricTerror13Nov 24, 20151 votes

Maybe hes got a floating dark palace in the sky.