What about Rek'Sai is female?

Kojiro Sasaki·Dec 2, 2014·3 votes·11,982 views

Disclaimer: The tone of this thread is questioning, Not angry. I really like the concept of the new champion, and will likely be picking them up very shortly after release.

All we have to go on is Riot saying its female. That's all well and good, and its THEIR champion, they made it, so fine, its female.

Still, what exactly is so female about it? Deep grunts, No talking to distinguish male from female, big bulky features, Primary focus on being an overpowering brute. None of this really screams "female" to me. So, I'm going to have to just call it an "it".

See, with Kog'Maw, we've got some to go on with the voice, and even then people debate whether ol' Koggle is male or female. Cho'Gath could also go both ways, but from some of the skins, and from a good bit of the quotes of HIM ACTUALLY TALKING its made fairly clear he's male. Kha'Zix is another case of this, though possibly more decidedly male. Void creatures seem to pretty much be "It" type characters, with Riot themselves really never even clarifying if Kog'maw is male or female, because they like people thinking about it.

So, I must pose the question. Who's decision was it that this character is DECIDEDLY female, and not an "it"? All previous void creatures have been left for us to figure out (or not figure out) and now you've made the most vague one of them all, and have decided to just come out and tell us its female? Why? Why can't it just be an "it"? Maybe we'll get some skins only a female monster can pull off out of it?

97 Comments

Meat SoldierDec 2, 20145 votes

So because she doesnt have pillowy supple breasts and is voice not acted by ahri shes not female?? Fucking A+. Rek'Sai is not a "they" or an "it". A gender identity has already been established and you do not have the right to disregard her pronouns because she is not outwardly feminine enough for you. Rek'Sai is female because she is female and thats all the reason you need. Dont take this is me disliking champions or even people that do not have set gender pronouns, or a gender identity. This is not that. This is me telling you you are in fact wrong for implying that Rek is not female because her "grunts" are too masculine for you. What makes a female anaconda a female? What makes a female kimodo dragon a female? What makes a female fucking bull shark a female. The fact that it is female. Thats it. All those animals are killers. They dont have time to be "feminine" for you to decide whether or not they deserve their gender. Neither does Rek'Sai. For the record; Cho'gath, Kha'zix, Kog'Maw and Vel'koz all have male pronouns in their lore and ability descriptions. Theyre all canonically male. Dont disrespect the void burrower yo.

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20142 votes

You do realize that all of those animals still have actual defining gender traits and to anyone who knows anything about the animal its super simple and fast to figure out, right?....

Right?

This is less about that they have "deep grunts" as you put it, and more about that its the only defining trait we have to go on. As I said, there's no defining male or female traits. My question is why they decided it was female? It could have gone either way. I'm curious about the prospect of skins.

Meat SoldierDec 2, 20142 votes

Fuck me youre persistent!!! Have you ever seen more than one of Kha'Zix? What are the defining gender traits on the specific species of Voidborn the he is? How do we know that his deep grunts and body structure are not typically female of his race? I will tell you how we know. I'm about to drop the fucking bomb here. Ready? IM PRESSING R!! ------R------- BECAUSE RIOT TOLD US HE'S A BOY. SO OBVIOUSLY, THE CHARACTERISTICS HE POSSESSES ARE MALE FOR HIS KIND. SO OBVIOUSLY THE CHARACTERISTICS AND QUALITIES REK'SAI HAS ARE INHERENTLY FEMALE FOR WHATEVER SHE IS. What part of everything Ive said arent you getting????

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20142 votes

Right, so by riots standards the big bulky nature and deep voices of the male void champions are defining of male void creatures.

So what defines our female void creature? Deep voice...and bulky features. Oh, and with no actual quotes to go on to help us either.

Good job!

Meat SoldierDec 2, 20142 votes

Again: You are applying HUMAN FEMALE GENDER STANDARDS to a beast that is neither HUMAN nor from THIS PLANET. Take me for example. I'm short, I'm small, I'm particularly weak physically and I cant feed myself unless there is another outside source present. SO I GUESS IM A BOY THEN. Oh, you cant apply angler fish gender standards to me because im a human being remember!?

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20141 votes

Yeah, but this is all from things we already know about anglerfish.

We also know plenty about Male void creatures so far, we have 4 previous male void creatures to go on. There's plenty of data.

This one does nothing new, and is essentially the same as any of the males. Is it her ability to burrow? Does her ability to dig deep and spit acid get all the male void creatures hot and bothered?

Meat SoldierDec 2, 20142 votes

Youre still arguing about this and at this point youre digging yourself into a pit which will eventually lead to you figuring out I'm right and i'm ok about that.

We dont know shit about void creatures because the only thing that is consistent about all of them is as follows: They r purple

Additionally, we dont even know enough about the void to know if the void champions are all one species or not. With the information we have at the moment, we have no way of listing any void born gender standards so we must go off what riot tells us.

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20141 votes

Youre still arguing about this and at this point youre digging yourself into a pit which will eventually lead to you figuring out I'm right and i'm ok about that.

We dont know shit about void creatures because the only thing that is consistent about all of them is as follows: They r purple

Additionally, we dont even know enough about the void to know if the void champions are all one species or not. With the information we have at the moment, we have no way of listing any void born gender standards so we must go off what riot tells us.

Kog'Maw isn't purple. More of an offshade brown pink. We also know plenty about the males, as you know, we have 4 of them now.

Actually, know what I find funny? The previous 4 void creatures are male, and can talk. In fact, 2 of them are fairly intelligent, one of them being basically a scientist!

Meanwhile, we finally get a female void creature. She can't talk, and instead grunts and seems real dumb. Is this the difference between male and female void creatures? Maybe females are overly territorial and aggressive, while not being as willing to learn things like speech? I could see it.

Edit: Also, who gives a shit who's right? This is interesting stuff. Isn't that the point of discussion? To pick each-others brains? Why does someone need to be right? Fine, you win, you're right. You're way smarter than me. Sure showed me!

redniwediSDec 2, 20142 votes

I would like to make one correction here. Rek'Sai cannot speak using a recognizable dialect. She may be able to communicate with other Void beings.

Meat SoldierDec 2, 20142 votes

Correct. In my reply i said "So your issue is now that Rek isnt intelligent?" when in fact we dont know. Those grunts may very well be valid communication for someone else. She could be a grammatical genius.

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20141 votes

Correct. In my reply i said "So your issue is now that Rek isnt intelligent?" when in fact we dont know. Those grunts may very well be valid communication for someone else. She could be a grammatical genius.

Good, but where does that help us define male from female? From what we've seen she does literally nothing that seperates her from the other void creatures. She's bulkier than over half of them, so You'd figure maybe female void creatures are bigger? But then there's Cho'Gath.

Of course, if anyone actually read the lore there's another easy way to disprove what I'm saying, but nobody has brought it up yet. I'm getting bored so I'll bring it up myself. Yes, in a crazy twist I'm going to fight against my own point!

The pre-coma part of a void creatures name, Cho, Kha, Vel, Are their actual name, the second part, Gath, Zix, Koz, are their "tribes" which for void creatures that evolve rapidly could also essentially be "species" Essentially Rek'Sai is different than the other void creatures because she's a "Sai" not a "Gath, Zix, Koz, or Maw". Therefore we know nothing of the male or females of her species.

Meat SoldierDec 2, 20142 votes

We cant define male from female because first of all: We have only seen one of each of the voidborn. Riot has not provided us with anything else than what we have. I just said that. Pay attention. We dont know if the voidborn are all one species or not. Pay. Attention. ** Of course, if anyone actually read the lore there's another easy way to disprove what I'm saying, but nobody has brought it up yet. I'm getting bored so I'll bring it up myself. Yes, in a crazy twist I'm going to fight against my own point!**

Thats unnecessary because: Ive disproved your point like 6 times now you just havent the huevos to admit it. Also, everybody read the fuckin lore, dingus. ** The pre-com*ma part of a void creatures name, Cho, Kha, Vel, Are their actual name, the second part, Gath, Zix, Koz, are their "tribes" which for void creatures that evolve rapidly could also essentially be "species" Essentially Rek'Sai is different than the other void creatures because she's a "Sai" not a "Gath, Zix, Koz, or Maw". Therefore we know nothing of the male or females of her species.**

I told you that you were going to wind up just back talking yourself into saying what ive already told you. __So basically what youre saying is, that the only thing we can trust in is what riot explicitly gives us? Which is what i said. They gave us her pronouns. Shes a girl. Thats it. Point blank. Full stop. Argument done. Ur wrong.

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20141 votes

Good, but where does that help us define male from female? From what we've seen she does literally nothing that seperates her from the other void creatures. She's bulkier than over half of them, so You'd figure maybe female void creatures are bigger? But then there's Cho'Gath.

We cant define male from female because first of all: We have only seen one of each of the voidborn. Riot has not provided us with anything else than what we have. I just said that. Pay attention. We dont know if the voidborn are all one species or not. Pay. Attention. ** Of course, if anyone actually read the lore there's another easy way to disprove what I'm saying, but nobody has brought it up yet. I'm getting bored so I'll bring it up myself. Yes, in a crazy twist I'm going to fight against my own point!**

Thats unnecessary because: Ive disproved your point like 6 times now you just havent the huevos to admit it. Also, everybody read the fuckin lore, dingus. ** The pre-com*ma part of a void creatures name, Cho, Kha, Vel, Are their actual name, the second part, Gath, Zix, Koz, are their "tribes" which for void creatures that evolve rapidly could also essentially be "species" Essentially Rek'Sai is different than the other void creatures because she's a "Sai" not a "Gath, Zix, Koz, or Maw". Therefore we know nothing of the male or females of her species.**

I told you that you were going to wind up just back talking yourself into saying what ive already told you. __So basically what youre saying is, that the only thing we can trust in is what riot explicitly gives us? Which is what i said. They gave us her pronouns. Shes a girl. Thats it. Point blank. Full stop. Argument done. Ur wrong.

Yes, I just said that myself. It was an interesting discussion though, and a great insight into the community as a whole. This experiment was a smashing success, thanks for all the fun. You really stuck it to me, you did. I hope you had an enjoyable time as well. but now what of the skins?

Meat SoldierDec 2, 20142 votes

Yo i swear to god the moment somebody on the internet gets proven wrong its always "This was a social experiment". Experiments have a set standard of operation and a control. They have a beginning and an end. There are a set set of questions/instances. People involved in experiments are always notified about it. You dont have any of those things you just got proven wrong and thats the end of it. There was no experiment. You suck and youre wrong jesus christ you dweeb.

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20141 votes

Yo i swear to god the moment somebody on the internet gets proven wrong its always "This was a social experiment". Experiments have a set standard of operation and a control. They have a beginning and an end. There are a set set of questions/instances. People involved in experiments are always notified about it. You dont have any of those things you just got proven wrong and thats the end of it. There was no experiment. You suck and youre wrong jesus christ you dweeb.

If you were notified that this was an experiment, then the outcome would have been different, thats how it works smartass. Also, the end of the experiment is now. the thread is over. Keep going if you want, but nobody cares anymore. Nothing was proven. I wasn't proven wrong, nobody was proven right or wrong. The discussion when nowhere. YOU have decided that the answer you liked the most won, as humans will often do. I'm out of here.

You're not too bright are you? Bump it more why don't you. You'll show me.

redniwediSDec 2, 20142 votes

No one who runs an experiment insults their unwilling test subjects after the experiment is over.
We will never hear of this "experiment" again. You're a terrible liar.

Sightless66Dec 3, 20141 votes

If you were notified that this was an experiment, then the outcome would have been different, thats how it works smartass.

That's why people pull "it's an experiment" out when they have egg on their face. We can't technically prove you are lying, so you feel less bad about everyone ripping on what you're talking about. "I was really manipulating all of you and I've proven that the community is terrible and I'm not really espousing these unpopular views". Even if you're not lying, you're using the exact same argument and the exact same language in the exact same way as a liar.

As for the skins, a Rioter did ask for ideas and proposals in the Q&A thread. There was something about a Pool Party skin where she'd have goggles and a floaty or something. So far, I don't think gender has played into any of them.

BoulderoxDec 2, 20141 votes

yet are you latched onto a female and then become a wart to it in order to fertilize the female? i don't think so

SharjoDec 2, 20145 votes

Why can't it be an it? Because the prior Voidborn have a specificed sex. Thus Voidborn are either male or female, with options such as hemaphrodite or no-sex being exceptionally rare or impossible. Why does Rek-Sai have to have traits that make it female in appearance? Who says Voidborn have to have sexual dimorphism? If you look at a bear, a dog, a fish, a crocodile, what about those creatures tells you they're specifically female? Jack diddly squat because they have little difference in appearance between sexes.

Essentially Rek'Sai being an it is counter to the standard with Voidborn; the other Voidborn are identified as having an individual sex. Rek'Sai not having it would be weird.

Also you're wrong about Kog'Maw. His ENTIRE LORE addresses him as male.

Also look at Anivia. Only her voice tells us she's female, if you looked at her otherwise you'd have no indication. The only way you'd know for Rek'Sai is looking at her abilities and seeing she's reffered to as "Queen" in them, an inherently female pronoun.

tl;dr Rek'Sai's a she. Voidborn aren't its. Rek'Sai being a she is a good thing.

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20143 votes

A few seconds in and already femnazi's who haven't even read the initial post properly are attacking me. So then, genius, What is so "female" about this creature? We have nothing to go on, other than Riot telling us its female.

In fact, lets get philosophical up in here. What defines anything as female? The ability to birth offspring? A vagoo?

Meat SoldierDec 2, 20144 votes

Whats female about this creature? You just said it. The fact that Riot told us she's female. Honestly Rek'Sai is not even human and youre applying human gender standards to her, which is for lack of a better word stupid as fuck. And I'm not a feminist but im glad you equate feminism to nazism. Heil Rek'Sai. Edit: Your question is not philosophical in nature. Your lack of ability to type vagina when asking a "philosophical question" bothers me. What defines an animal as female and what defines a human being as female are two vastly different conversations as animals lack rationality. Please clarify exactly what you're talking about so i can tell you.

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20144 votes

Whats female about this creature? You just said it. The fact that Riot told us she's female. Honestly Rek'Sai is not even human and youre applying human gender standards to her, which is for lack of a better word stupid as fuck. And I'm not a feminist but im glad you equate feminism to nazism. Heil Rek'Sai.

Exactly. So if we can't apply human gender standards to her, then we can't perceive her as female. Therefore, from our mindset, she's an "it".

XulsigaeDec 2, 20146 votes

Isn't that rather a limited mindset? What traits define someone as female? Curves? Voice? The ability to reproduce? What traits define someone as a monster? Looks? Voice? She's a female monster, not a monstrous female.

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20142 votes

Generally speaking, it'd be the ability to reproduce in a specific way, Primarily "the one who makes the unfertilized eggs". So is she a broodmother? Are there scary ass little Rek'Sai? Is this Tremors all over agaIn?

OrbvDec 2, 20145 votes

That's highly incorrect even on a genetic standpoint. There are many animals and insects on our planet, real life, where the male can either produce eggs or carry the fetus through pregnancy. Yet in both cases they are called the male of the species because of color and size comparisons. Reproduction is 1 facet of many to base gender off of.

Meat SoldierDec 2, 20141 votes

Exactly. So if we can't apply human gender standards to her, then we can't perceive her as female. Therefore, from our mindset, she's an "it".

So since youre working with situational fallacies I'll humor you. We cant apply human gender standards to a thing that is not human. Ill tell you what Rek'Sai is tho. Voidborn. So we can apply Voidbord gender standards to her. Riot says Rek'Sai is female. So obviously, by the standards of the void, Rek'Sai is a girl. She's a walkin, gruntin, portal thinkin girl. Your big issue is the fact that Rek'Sai does not have a feminine VO, that she does heavy damage and that her character model doesnt have double D's.

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20141 votes

Exactly. So if we can't apply human gender standards to her, then we can't perceive her as female. Therefore, from our mindset, she's an "it".

So since youre working with situational fallacies I'll humor you. We cant apply human gender standards to a thing that is not human. Ill tell you what Rek'Sai is tho. Voidborn. So we can apply Voidbord gender standards to her. Riot says Rek'Sai is female. So obviously, by the standards of the void, Rek'Sai is a girl. She's a walkin, gruntin, portal thinkin girl. Your big issue is the fact that Rek'Sai does not have a feminine VO, that she does heavy damage and that her character model doesnt have double D's.

Thats a sick fallacy, since One of the people at Riot decided its female, then they must obviously have the 100% knowledge on this fake thing, and know exactly what makes a void creature female. Meanwhile what separates her from the male void creatures? Go on, tell me. Whats different? Is it that she digs real good gurl?

Meat SoldierDec 2, 20142 votes

Youre assuming that the person/people who wrote the introduction to Rek'Sai do not have the authority to make the things they put in it canon. Let me tell you, they do. And yes the people who created and designed this character from scratch know 100% everything about her. It's pretty much a given that even the janitor at Riot knows more about the Void then we do.

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20141 votes

So what you're saying is we aren't allowed to use our brains, and its the way it is because we were told so, deal with it?

Alright, you've certainly added an amazing key point to the discussion. You can leave, now.

redniwediSDec 2, 20141 votes

Kojiro, you're really not adding anything here. Many people have pointed out the flaw in the point of view you insist on repeating, yet you're ignoring them all. If anyone can leave now it is you.

Void creatures do not use a human standard for their design, and so human traits cannot be applied to them in anything but an arbitrary manner.

Yordles, while not human, do use a human standard and so human traits like gender can apply in a regularly identifiable way.

Do you see the difference?

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20141 votes

Kojiro, you're really not adding anything here. Many people have pointed out the flaw in the point of view you insist on repeating, yet you're ignoring them all. If anyone can leave now it is you.

Void creatures do not use a human standard for their design, and so human traits cannot be applied to them in anything but an arbitrary manner.

Yordles, while not human, do use a human standard and so human traits like gender can apply in a regularly identifiable way.

Do you see the difference?

Ah but see, you assume these people pointing out this supposed flaw are correct over me, when it is really they who have jumped on a bandwagon and are being narrow minded. Stifling discussion is no way to improve our race, silly.

redniwediSDec 2, 20142 votes

I would be inclined to believe you if your posts stuck to arguing points instead of making the inevitable slide toward belittling others. I've seen this far too often and so I have to side with them.

You've made your points, and the overwhelming reply has been that you cannot apply human traits to a Void creature. Your move would be to show us why you actually can.

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20141 votes

I would be inclined to believe you if your posts stuck to arguing points instead of making the inevitable slide toward belittling others. I've seen this far too often and so I have to side with them.

You've made your points, and the overwhelming reply has been that you cannot apply human traits to a Void creature. Your move would be to show us why you actually can.

Where have I said that I believed you could in the first place? People strawman'd the shit out of me, and then you joined the bandwagon. Fallacies up the wazoo in here! What do you really expect from the league community, though?

redniwediSDec 2, 20142 votes

You plainly applied human traits when you attached genders to the voices of the other Void creatures. No one convinced you to say it, it's in your original post.

Your posts since have been trying to convince us that you're way of thinking on this matter is right, however you have failed to actually show us the flaws of our own thinking. You just keep restating your point of view as if it is fact.

If you're going to group everyone who does not agree with you and not look at the particulars of each person's ideas why are you even replying here?

Sightless66Dec 2, 201411 votes

When it is said that you are applying human gender standards, what is meant is that you are applying gender traits that only work on humans. In humans, males have deeper voices, are more bulky and are more likely to be perceived as brutes. That's a human thing. It doesn't apply to sexual dimorphism across animal kingdoms. In many animal species, females are larger, stronger, and more violent. I see no reason to assume that wouldn't apply here. Given that we have no male examples to compare her to, it's pretty pointless to make assumptions about how dimorphism works in this species.

Even if I'm assuming that I have to label something as a male or female based on traits (and outside of medical matters, I really don't), she isn't an it to us just because she doesn't have human female gender traits. We don't know what the gender traits of this species are, and given that she doesn't look mammalian, I'm not going to assume that she fits a mammalian sexual dimorphic pattern. That's not a standard I'm going to apply to a violent voidborn monster.

We've been told it's a she. We have no real evidence to the contrary. It's a she. End of story.

blindes317May 9, 20162 votes

Can you become my lawyer

XulsigaeDec 2, 20142 votes

Why does she need to have traits to define her as female beyond the pronoun?

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20142 votes

Because otherwise She isn't female. There's a limit to political correctness you know. The incredible hulk can walk into the center of town and scream he's a female while flipping over cars all he wants, and we can even agree because that's the proper thing to do, but that doesn't mean he's female. He's fucking not, he's a big green jerk who is destroying our cars.

FiendOfOneDec 2, 20145 votes

Because otherwise She isn't female. There's a limit to political correctness you know. The incredible hulk can walk into the center of town and scream he's a female while flipping over cars all he wants, and we can even agree because that's the proper thing to do, but that doesn't mean he's female. He's fucking not, he's a big green jerk who is destroying our cars.

As a transgender, I heartily disagree with this sentiment. If the hulk wants to be female, that can totally happen.

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20141 votes

Sure he can? Who says he can't? but at the end of the day, words are just words. What defines male and female are the dictionary meaning of said words. and what are those?

FiendOfOneDec 2, 20143 votes

Sure he can? Who says he can't? but at the end of the day, words are just words. What defines male and female are the dictionary meaning of said words. and what are those?

There are a lot of them. My personal favorite one is this: A woman or girl. (Yes, that is in the dictionary as a medical defintion). Also, for male: A man or boy.

Let's expand on this.

Gender: A set of two or more grammatical categories into which the nouns of certain languages are divided, sometimes but not necessarily corresponding to the sex of the referent when animate.

Hrm, what about this one? The medical definitions, of which there are two: The sex of an individual, male or female, based on reproductive anatomy; Sexual identity, especially in relation to society or culture.

Continuing on.

A grammatical category indicating the sex, or lack of sex, of nouns and pronouns. The three genders are masculine, feminine, and neuter. He is a masculine pronoun; she is a feminine pronoun; it is a neuter pronoun. Nouns are classified by gender according to the gender of the pronoun that can substitute for them. In English, gender is directly indicated only by pronouns.

Don't be so closeminded with your own specific views on gender. Considering the transgender scale consists of dozens of definitions for differing views on one's own gender identity and how that relates to the rest of the world, and that's just humans, why would we think that our own views can even come close to figuring out what a creature from literally outside of reality and how that's defined? She's a she; there could be more lore from the Void coming down the pipe to set this in stone, or the Void could remain some weird mystery to us forever.

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20141 votes

Sure he can? Who says he can't? but at the end of the day, words are just words. What defines male and female are the dictionary meaning of said words. and what are those?

There are a lot of them. My personal favorite one is this: A woman or girl. (Yes, that is in the dictionary as a medical defintion). Also, for male: A man or boy.

Let's expand on this.

Gender: A set of two or more grammatical categories into which the nouns of certain languages are divided, sometimes but not necessarily corresponding to the sex of the referent when animate.

Hrm, what about this one? The medical definitions, of which there are two: The sex of an individual, male or female, based on reproductive anatomy; Sexual identity, especially in relation to society or culture.

Continuing on.

A grammatical category indicating the sex, or lack of sex, of nouns and pronouns. The three genders are masculine, feminine, and neuter. He is a masculine pronoun; she is a feminine pronoun; it is a neuter pronoun. Nouns are classified by gender according to the gender of the pronoun that can substitute for them. In English, gender is directly indicated only by pronouns.

Don't be so closeminded with your own specific views on gender. Considering the transgender scale consists of dozens of definitions for differing views on one's own gender identity and how that relates to the rest of the world, and that's just humans, why would we think that our own views can even come close to figuring out what a creature from literally outside of reality and how that's defined? She's a she; there could be more lore from the Void coming down the pipe to set this in stone, or the Void could remain some weird mystery to us forever.

I'm A-sexual to begin with, so what gender anyone is hardly actually matters to me. What we're discussing here is the raw definition anatomically of gender. You're whatever you identify as, however medically its pretty obvious if you're male or female.

FiendOfOneDec 2, 20141 votes

Hrm, what about this one? The medical definitions, of which there are two: The sex of an individual, male or female, based on reproductive anatomy; Sexual identity, especially in relation to society or culture.

Medical definition already posted. Bolded for emphasis.

Kojiro SasakiDec 2, 20141 votes

Hrm, what about this one? The medical definitions, of which there are two: The sex of an individual, male or female, based on reproductive anatomy; Sexual identity, especially in relation to society or culture.

Medical definition already posted. Bolded for emphasis.

Since when has medicine cared about what society thinks of you? Is this from wikipedia? lmao.

At the end of the day, one thing defines you as male or female, and as much as you try to run from it, you know what it is.

redniwediSDec 2, 20143 votes

Since when has society and culture not been a pervasive standard in all ways of thinking?

Meat SoldierDec 2, 20141 votes

Gender, sex, and sexuality are different things.
You being asexual has nothing to do with the gender argument. And genitals do not equal gender in human beings. Men can have vaginas and women can have penises. This is exemplified by trans women and men. Also, intersex people exist. By intersex i mean people with non distinguishable or two sets of genitals. These people have pronouns and they have genders and its really not up to you to decide what they are based on what is in their pants. Also, youre asexual, so you really shouldnt be worried about whats in anybodys pants to begin with.

FiendOfOneDec 2, 20143 votes

Since when has medicine cared about what society thinks of you? Is this from wikipedia? lmao.

At the end of the day, one thing defines you as male or female, and as much as you try to run from it, you know what it is.

The American Heritage Stedman's Medical Dictionary. Which is largely used as the medical dictionary by the National Medical Association.

The World Health Organization defines gender as the result of socially constructed ideas about the behavior, actions, and roles a particular sex performs. (Pulled from their website on an article about defining gender).

Would you like to consider more fact checking?

LisbethDec 2, 20143 votes

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XulsigaeDec 2, 20142 votes

I agree that she should have an an actual voice we can understand, but I don't think it needs to sound what we view as coming from a female. I'm okay with gender being not defined by common characteristics.

DrCyanideDec 2, 20142 votes

Perhaps you could think about it in terms of cats.

The cats in your neighborhood all sound roughly the same. They look roughly the same. From a distance, there's no way for you to tell if most of the cats are male or female. Yet the cats defiantly do have genders.

We don't have a full examination of Rek'Sai's anatomy, nor other of her species to compare her to, we have the distant view (same with the cats). We don't know how to distinguish the sounds that are made by that species into male and female (same with the cats). But, as with the cats, we can ask the owners and we go off of that.