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Akali and her many skins

Killaburn··13 votes·5,069 views

Now that we all know that akali's the next champion in the reworks pool after irelia. It is expected that we will see all her old skins updated and here is my take on her rework skins. I really like to talk about this kind of topics so bare well with me with this thread. And if you are wondering if I already did something like this in the past, yeah i did, with NUNU(Yeah we already know that he's next after akali, so expect me to brought something like this again in the future).

https://tenor.com/view/akali-gif-6197425

Before we start, I just want to say that riot should just improve our beloved ninja assasin and not remove her sideboob plus give her green eyes back cause i really like them. Adds depth to her character. And I also expect a very Burning Tides event this year with her release like Gangplank but with ninja's this time. And I hope her boss, shen, will receive a special treatment this year like a new skin or a VFX like chogath to make his skin not chromas. please add particles riot. Sorry with the Shen stuff, I don't like to be Janna'd again. Nevertheless to say, lets go straight to the topic.

  1. Stinger Akali - Looks like a yellow jacket bug, or a yellow jacket Shen!! Maybe a sweet yellow particle fx or even add her to the bee skin line with Singed.

  2. Crimson Akali - this is controversial for me lol. I have 2 ideas for this skin line. A.) rename this skin line to " Crimson Elite Akali " to fit with the other crimson elite skins. B.) Rename it to " Crimson Blossom Akali " Make it a flower skinline with rose petals particle effects and make her look like this https://imgur.com/cYYItP7

PS: Crimson is a bland word for a skin line specially that it crosses paths with the crimson elite skinline.

  1. All-Star Akali - The only thing that i can say about this is that, just add particle effects and made her more into an all-star soccer player riot. Plus this year is Fifa 2018, do we expect new football skins? and my prediction date for akali's live release in on june/july meaning, it is the same month as the fifa game.

  2. Nurse Akali - I like this theme. Please more accurate VFX for this skin line riot. maybe a Syringe weapon?

  3. Blood Moon Akali - No words to express this. Just make her into a blood moon skin that she deserves riot. Add particle effects to this skin. Plus, I hope she maintains her pose in her new splash but with a diff angle.

  4. Silverfang Akali - Make her theme more dire wolf please. Adapt a husky color for this skin.

  5. Headhunter Akali - Perfect as it is, It depends now on the design team on how they would address this skinline.

  6. Sashimi Akali - like headhunter and please add more visual effects

Overall, i think Stinger - Headhunter needs a new splash and sashimi just needs some tweeks. Thanks for reading. Godbless riot in the rework of Akali with CertainlyT.

73 Comments

Gapybo13 votes

Always looked at stinger Akali as a Kill Bill reference. Would be cool if they somehow furthered that with the update. Like giving her a katana if possible with her new design.

YuGiHo1 votes

It is a kill bill reference, this is what worries me when vu's happen is that the original reference material is either forgotten or discarded. I bought that skin only for the kill bill reference back when it had the blood on the splash art. removing the blood was fine but if they change that skin dramatically in ways that arent purely a model update i will be heartbroken.

Sukishoo12 votes

Sashimi Akali - like headhunter and please add more visual effects

They aren't going too as that's a 750. They come with the same basic effect as the base skin.

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752874-Guide-to-Skin-Price-Tiers

Features: model changes, new texture, new splash image. Sometimes includes: new animations. Examples: Little Knight Amumu, Explorer Ezreal.

Headhunter needs a new splash and sashimi just needs some tweeks.

Both of their splashes are pretty modern being from 2015/2016, so they will most likely just update the look of her in them slightly.

Killaburn2 votes

I agree that those 2 will just receive tweeks in her splash art. BTW, if riot could make a 520rp skin have awesome particles like shadow eve and crabgot, why not shashimi akali?

paisy1 votes

What about Enchanted Galio as a skin? There's more but I'm just that as an example. Its only 520 rp and it got its own visuals.

Daunt10 votes

She wouldn't fit into the Crimson Elite skin line since she's from Ionia. The skin line is focused around Noxus champions like Riven and Talon.

Killaburn1 votes

Well riot can just place any champs from any skin line because that is their own game. There are no strict rules about that. Plus it is an old skin line and 2 noxian champs doesn't justify that it is a noxus skin line exclusive.

Daunt1 votes

It thematically makes no sense. Crimson Elite is an elite of Noxian soldiers, how exactly does Akali fit there? Not sure why it matters so much if she's called Crimson or Crimson Elite.

GreenLore1 votes

Well in the end Riot could just put Akali into the crimson elite skin set and say that in that universe Akali joined Noxus.

Skin lore is after all rather variable and while they originally envisioned the crimson elite as the noxian counterpart to the commando skinline,it got cancelled before it reached a notworthy amount of skins. I mean the debonair skinline originally looked it'd be Piltover exclusive until we got debonair Galio all of a sudden.

Daunt1 votes

True, Crimson Elite Katarina actually got cancelled and instead went into PROJECT : Katarina.

The Akali skin doesn't really look similar to Crimson Elite skins though. Besides being red the Akali skin is mostly just a recolor with an amazing splash art imo. I'd prefer if the theme stayed unique cause it portrays the bloody killer side of Akali well. I mean, just look at that splash art.

Chromatic Eagle7 votes

Why are people so passionate over this sideboob?

Jeddy0178 votes

I don't know, I assume it's a fetish.

In my opinion, the base Akali shouldn't get any sideboob. It doesn't make sense for Akali to be sexualized as far as the base skin. Akali is suppose to be this badass, serious ninja with a bit of cockiness. It doesn't make sense for her to a somewhat revealing outfit that gives some nice sideboob action. Does it make sense for a ninja to sideboobs? It's like how Caitlyn in game design (that's pretty sexualized) doesn't make sense with her character. Nurse Akali is fine because that's suppose to be a fun & sexy skin. But Base Akali is the main representation of the character. I think the sexualization should be kept to a minimum for the updated base Akali.

Jerry SeinfeId6 votes

It's a fantasy game, there's some freedom in what makes sense and what doesn't. It's been part of her character since her release, why change what works?

There's also no reason for her not to be badass and have the sideboob most of her playerbase wants to keep.

https://img00.deviantart.net/9460/i/2016/074/4/f/akali___league_of_legends_by_kekse0719-d9v9bww.jpg cmon, she looks pretty badass.

Chromatic Eagle5 votes

There have been many iconic features that have been changed with vgus. Like I find Caitlyn’s dress to be more girly than sexualized, but most people want it gone. The side boob has less to do with her character.

Jeddy0171 votes

"Why change what works?"

And how, might I ask, does it works?

Jerry SeinfeId4 votes

people like it.

Jeddy0173 votes

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So as I was saying everyone: I don't think the sideboob should return or at least be as prominent in the updated Akali base skin. I feel doesn't really fit her character or her narrative. Bump the side boob action to one of her skins & we can call it a day.

Ifneth1 votes

I agree with you!

GreenLore1 votes

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It's a fantasy game, there's some freedom in what makes sense and what doesn't.

By that logic they'd need to invent a reason for her to keep the sideboob,which would just come off as ridiculous in the first place. If they are gonna keep it,they shouldn't bother explaining it,because any kind of explanation would come off as rather cheesy.

Jerry SeinfeId2 votes

no they don't. I might have missed something but i don't think riot has a section in their bio's that explains why they wear certain clothing.

GreenLore1 votes

I just said that your logic was flawed. Because you argued that they can define what makes sense and what doesn't and if they say that this style of clothing makes sense,then they'd have to tell us why it would make sense.

Jerry SeinfeId2 votes

Garen's big ass sword doesn't make sense. when did they explain that?

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

Don’t get me wrong I like sex appeal, but why the side boob? Like you’d think her thighs would be the most appealing, right?

Akali is SO HOT2 votes

Well you would be WRONG good sir

:)

Ifneth1 votes

But that whole argument boils down to, “But we can still somehow fit sex appeal into this champion’s design.” Many other players and I don’t want Riot to think like that. Do you?

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

that completely depends on the character? If you think sex appeal can add nothing to a character then explain Evelyn to me.

srsly though.

She's a female ninja, would it be that hard to believe she understands the power of sex appeal? And they aren't "somehow fitting it in" they'd be "keeping it in". If you truly believe the game has enough sex appeal (which i completely agree on) and don't want any added (which i couldn't care about either way) then other people shouldn't have to lose any either.

Sex appeal done right can make your character better. I already showed an image that i believe shows akali can be both badass and sexy.

what would be wrong is turning her from her current figure into something more voluptuous like evelyn's which wouldn't fit with her whole stealth thing as lore wise she's not invisible but hiding (ffs why is the easiest example a damn stealth champ).

Ifneth1 votes

To be clear, I think the game has too much sex appeal. New champions, new skins, and visual updates should not include it unless it fits their theme.

Even when done right, adding sex appeal to a character is not always the right decision. You want to start with a vision then add everything it includes, rather than start with the desire for fanservice and then come up with an excuse to include it afterward. It ends up being obvious to everyone in the final product and bothers anyone who did not want the appeal.

That way, you have the freedom to replace sex appeal with other visual elements; e.g., more twilight assassin awesomeness in Akali’s case. I will concede that, if you found your main attractive and liked that, then you might not after a rework. But removing their sex appeal should free their outfits and poses to complement a story that draws you to them more than fanservice could.

Imagine, for example, that Akali were written to study the spirit world’s interaction with the material one. As she would travel Runeterra on her missions, she would record her observations and ask questions of locals, compiling notes to be studied with Shen and Kennen. They could even argue about whether to release the notes to the world...

She could have small scrolls and little tools strapped to her suit, with her twin disciplines representing a conflict about whether to embrace the spirit world or the material one. Think of the quotes.

Jerry SeinfeId1 votes

considering the fact that riot has stated they want to continue on her current character she'll most likely be a more "assassin" type of member of the order. While scrolls can be a neat addition as far as visuals go i'd rather not see her carry too much stuff unless it's in her kit (smoke bombs for example).

I know alot of people see the twin disciple thing refereing to her being zed's former student and shen's current. I like that so i kinda hope they go with that. Having a repurposed shadow order outfit would be cool, but in the end her mains aren't asking for much. Just a little less cloth on the sides than average.

you also keep refering to forcing a sex appeal in there. Akali ALREADY has it, so she wouldn't gain any sex appeal. They could even cover up other parts that are exposed now like her legs. If they work it in properly there doesn't have to be any "excuse", they don't even have to refer to it in their story writing.

Ifneth1 votes

(Smoke bombs and the Zed/Shen conflict are both really cool additions that I did not think of!)

Akali has it, but her theme doesn’t make you think, “Yeah, of course she would have that,” like Miss Fortune’s does. Besides, she would be in a body-suit, which would show her curves wherever it pulled tight in any pose. Hence my point about champions looking great regardless of whether they are designed for fanservice or not.

Ifneth2 votes

Yeah, it’s time to get rid of all this sexualization. Just design the female champs around their lore. They will look awesome.

Jeddy0171 votes

WHOA WHOA WHOA, Slow down there Speedy! This isn't an Anti-sexualization post. I believe sexualization has a place in League, but there are times, places & characters for it. In the context of BASE Akali, yeah we should tone down the sexualize-ness (just making up words as I go) of her design. In other words, drop the side boobs & put a bit more clothing on her. If Shen doesn't have to walk around with a bare back & expose thigh, I don't see why she should (no matter how alluring they are). Now with other champs like Eve, Ahri, MF, those character being sexaulized make sense because it fits with their characters. Even skins like Nurse Akali or BB Riven is fine because said skins are meant to be fun & sexy. They're also not the main imagine of the characters & an opt in experience.

Ifneth1 votes

Yeah, I could have worded my post better, but if you think about it, then designing Eve around her lore would do what you want and leave her looking awesome, too.

Hauling Ashe3 votes

Because it's a game and games are for fun. Boobs are also fun.

[katarina-love]

Ifneth2 votes

They’re not fun for everyone or all the time, which is what you’re implying even if you didn’t mean to.

Hauling Ashe1 votes

And likewise League of Legends is not fun for everyone or all the time. So what's your point?

No one is ever up in arms about boobs in LoL until a rework happens or a new skin is revealed, and then suddenly the fun police comes out of the woodwork. I bet a bunch of you are gonna whine about Sona having cleavage when it's her turn to get an update, too.

What about me? I don't like champs that have "demonic" themes or look like they're straight out of an anime, but no one seems to care if I don't find it fun. And they shouldn't. I just deal with it and let other people enjoy it, because I like the game enough to look past it for myself.

Ifneth1 votes

But I look at you and see the same thing—just the other way around. Almost every female champ is somehow designed to be attractive. That’s why you always hear about this.

Hauling Ashe1 votes

And to that I ask: So what?

Again, fun police.

Ifneth1 votes

But it’s not fun for me and many other players to have them all look sexy. I want each one to have a different look to go with her theme. That’s my idea of fun. By saying that they should all look alike, and I know you don’t mean to be, you’re being my ‘fun police’.

Hauling Ashe1 votes

Sounds like a you problem. Akali does have a different look from all other champions. And she's always been this way. You saying you want to spoil her look for other players by removing a preexisting trait many people enjoy to cater to you is the same as if I said Illaoi should be remade with an hourglass figure because I don't enjoy her current model.

Ifneth1 votes

In the sense that she is scantily clad, Akali doesn’t have a different look from many older female champions. Janna, Katarina, and LeBlanc are a few examples.

That she’s always been that way doesn’t mean she should always be that way, especially when the visual update offers a chance to rework her look.

More than one Akali player here has said they don’t like her skimpy clothes because they don’t fit her theme. You must admit that it’s more important that a skin deliver a solid fantasy to everyone than fanservice to just some mains.

And Akali’s look is, as I said above, not unique but part of an pattern of female champions who were sexualized even though attractiveness was not part of their theme. Breaking that pattern will mean de-sexualizing all of them, through one visual update after another, however much some of their players will miss the fanservice they provided.

There’s no way around it. Lots of people may like one fanservice-y champ or another how she is, but leaving them all to have sex appeal regardless of theme isn’t good, either. So when this update comes, it’ll be Akali’s turn to switch.

Hauling Ashe1 votes

OK.

Go ahead and enjoy enforcing your standards onto everyone else for your own sense of what is "right". Seems like you can't stand something others have enjoyed for years because it doesn't fit what you want to see. I wonder how you survived for so long knowing that Akali had a dress that wasn't up to your code. Must have really prevented you from having fun playing this game all this time.

Peace out.

Ifneth1 votes

Not so fast.

Your past two replies have smugly insulted me while ignoring my arguments, and the ones before just repeated that sexualized champs must remain so because some players enjoy their fanservice and that whoever disagrees must be the ‘fun police’.

If you have such a persuasive argument in favor of keeping the fanservice as you seem to imply, then make it. If not, then admit that you just want fanservice and would miss it if it were gone.

Hauling Ashe1 votes

I never denied I like the fanservice and would miss it if it were gone. That doesn't make your "argument" any better.

You don't like something that I and several others like, therefore you want to remove it to satisfy your sense of some sort of digital justice. That's basically your argument. You're literally seeking your own form of fanservice for Riot to cater to you.

If you don't like Akali, then don't play Akali. It's that simple.

Ifneth1 votes

Your whole argument is that you just don’t want to lose your fanservice, though, which is not a good reason to compromise a champion’s design.

You see, every champion has a theme that they are designed to fit, but lots of female champions’ designs were compromised for fanservice. My argument is and has been that, when Riot visually updates these champions, these compromises should be removed.

Akali is one of these champions. Your argument, as I understand it, is that her compromises should remain because you and some other players like them. But if Riot let you keep your design compromised, then not only would Akali players who don’t share your views not get a theme-matching design, but Riot would also have to do the same for all the other champs like her.

I hope you now can see that they either all change, or all stay the same. I want them to change. I want to see what they would look like if they didn’t have to break their own fiction just to deliver fanservice. Don’t you?

Hauling Ashe1 votes

Nothing was "compromised". Akali is Akali. She was created as she is currently. She was never anything else. No one had a problem with it.

There was once a time when people could just enjoy the simple things for being simple and fun without people having to make a social issue about them. It would be nice if I could still enjoy those things in League without someone trying to pressure a reality into a fantasy game.

No, I don't want them to change some things. People didn't want Swain to lose his cane. Or Graves to lose his cigar. I don't want Caitlyn to lose her Antebellum dress. I don't want Irelia to lose her "surfing" blade.

Or Akali to get censored.

Your argument is that Riot should pander to people who dislike seeing a little skin. I'm sure you weren't up in arms to this degree about Taric's and Rakan's bare chests.

Ifneth1 votes

I feel like you just don’t want to read what I’m writing at this point. I’ve been pretty clear that champions have themes, which their designs are supposed to deliver, but that some older female champs had their designs compromised for fanservice. That the designs were shipped like this doesn’t make a difference, and I don’t understand why you would think so.

There was once a time when the female champs all had the same hourglass figure, wore skimpy clothes, and were meant for fanservice. It made no in-universe sense for all of them to look alike, or for any of them to dress how they did. Some people even said Riot was objectifying women. After years, the company changed its ways, deciding to deliver fanservice only a champion’s theme promised it.

By the way, I have not even once mentioned feminism, social justice, or somesuch, but you have every time you’ve replied. You seem convinced that my argument must be motivated by these things, even though my point has always been that designs should deliver themes and make in-universe sense. What gives?

The cane, cigar, blade, and dress have nothing to do with this, and saying that putting a suit on Akali is censorship makes no sense. She never should have been sexualized to begin with.

Taric is a shameless womanizer, and Rakan is a charmer. Of course they’ll be barechested and handsome, just like the former and current succubi Ahri and Evelynn are curvy and wear revealing clothes.

Stars Shaper6 votes

Stay a while and listen... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x6dyfiNyog

paisy3 votes

As an Akali player, I find it stupid. I don't care if they keep it or not, but its annoying to see so many people begging for it to stay.

Ifneth2 votes

You were downvoted, but I gave you a upvote, good sir!

paisy1 votes

Lol thanks dude, guess people can't handle my opinion

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