Irelia, Pyke, Jinx and Akali just got skins UNDER A YEAR AGO!

Battlecast Bear··5 votes·1,911 views

Quote: "Now let's talk about how we choose which skins we make for champions. It's a balance between 3 things."

  1. "How much a champion is being played."
  2. "Whether they fit into the theme we're working on."
  3. "And finally, when is the last time they got a skin." Unquote:

Irelia just got one back in august following the one Jinx got in the odyssey event back last September, Akali just got one back in October PLUS a Prestige skin and pyke just got a Blood Moon skin back in December. All of these champs JUST got skins in UNDER A YEAR and they're already getting brand spanking new ones?!

So am I to assume reasons 2 and ESPECIALLY 3 are no longer on your list of reasons why a champ gets/needs a new skin? Because by reason 1's logic that means the same 5 to 12 champs are gonna be getting ALL of the future skins. How come Lee Sin isn't getting a new skin? I see him all the time in my games. What about , Morgana, Mordkaiser (REALLY CONSIDERING HE JUST GOT A REWORK! Would have been the perfect time to roll out a new one for him!) Kha'zix, Draven, Ashe,

If reason number 3 was even still an ACTUAL reason how come other champs who haven't received any love in over 2 to 3 years not getting any love?!

Volibear, Shyvana, Rumble, Annie, Singed, Veigar, Tryndamere, Hecarim, Nautalis, Trundle, Janna, Zilean and so on. You really gonna sit there and tell me Ivern deserved a skin before anyone on this list??

Yeah it's cool the champs that are 'always played' are getting skins, but can't we have something actually new for once?! The repetitiveness of the same champs getting brand new skins is getting stale beyond all reason. I like playing jinx and I highly doubt I'm gonna buy that new Project one since I got both her Star Guardian and Odyssey Jinx both out of loot boxes. There's still a good handful of champs I (among many other players) play that we would ADORE seeing new skins for.

Heck I love Vel'koz, would be cool to see a Halloween one where he's turned into a giant haunted jack-o-lantern or something! Giant vines for tentacles, shooting candle fire out at his victims, heck would even be cool to see it be blue flames! All ghostly and stuff, the idea sounds cool to me at least! I have a buddy that LOOOOVES playing Janna, ain't she gonna get any sorta love??

Just as an added thing to this rant, I'm gonna predict the next round of champs that get new skins after this next bundle of Project themed ones. I list these without knowing any future theme!

  1. Yasuo and/or Kayne (I know Yasuo just got one but that hasn't stopped you from rolling out 2 skins for the same champ in under 6 months. *COUUGH pulsefire and Dawnbringer Riven)
  2. Riven/Vayne
  3. Soraka and/or Lulu
  4. Ahri (Easily, like..99.99% chance) / Aatrox
  5. Jax / Added Bonus, 1 token champ that no one plays just to make it look like reason 3 is still a thing. Zilean.

Go ahead, prove me wrong.

19 Comments

Chembaron Yamada6 votes

The only thing speaking against the picks for the new line up of Projects is point 3, since most of these champions had skins recently.

Point 1 and 2 probably have higher priority than point 3. And I disagree with you it seems, since point 2 definitely is a point in favor of these champions being picked for the skins.

Besides the obvious cyborg thematic, the new line ups of Project all follow some kind of thematic. Last time it has been "hunters". This year, the thematic has been "man-made monsters". They wanted to pick champions with a matching background in the lore it seems, the idea they tried to emphazise here seems to be "champions, which had some trauma in their past that completely changed their personality".

All the champions picked for this year fit in there. Jinx Had an unknown trauma in her past, that made her mind snap. It was the reason she became the destructive lunatic we know. Pyke Got betrayed by his crew, he became a ghost serial killer to take revenge. Warwick Once a criminal who wanted to become good, got captured by Singed and transformed into a beast that is no longer able to control its killing sprees. Akali Irelia Both abandoned the old traditions of philosophies of their country, being about peace and balance in everything. They became ruthless killers on the battlefield, caused by the Noxian invasion.

I can see why they picked these champions, especially Jinx, Pyke, and Warwick. They are all kinda insane and that goes really well with the broken cyborg thematic. On top of their traumatic background, like I explained. The champions they picked are favored, agreed. But thematically, I can see why they picked them.

Camille Ferrøs2 votes

I don't think they go that deep into theme and lore when it comes to choosing who gets a skin.

Chembaron Yamada5 votes

I don't think it is a coincidence that they teasered these skins with "we can't control the monsters we created" and then all the champions they picked for this skin line have some tragic background in which humans messed with their mind to a degree that these champions had a complete change in personality.

The coincidence would be huge if they didn't think this through.

Camille Ferrøs2 votes

I don't think its that deep. If we are looking from that point pretty much every single champion could fit in that theme (something went wrong and now they changed) and with some cool tech design on it. I think they pick champions and then, later on, they think about the marketing the promo etc.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

It wouldn't have worked with every champion, imo. While it is true that many champions had some kind of trauma in their past, many didn't get impacted negatively that much like the chosen champions here.

XinZhao Once caught by Noxians and had to fight in the arena, but as far as we can tell, his mind didn't really develope negatively because of that. Caitlyn Same for her, trauma with her parents, but she didn't go insane or anything like that. Doesn't even want to kill the Noxian spy in her colour story, still positive character development. Riven Different direction for her. She had a trauma on the battlefield with Singed's poison gas attack, but this made her actually question the moral of Noxus. Instead of going crazy and becoming a killer, it's the opposite, she tries to adapt to Ionia's philosophy of balance and peace. Graves Can't come up with any big trauma in his story, especially not one that made him go worse than he was before.

The part I want to put emphasis on here is "monsters we created". The champion in question should have a character development that makes them morally questionable. That doesn't apply to every champion with a traumatic background.

Camille Ferrøs1 votes

I know but still that's just the promo. I don't think they had a whole scheme of how they wanted monsters in this wave, and specifically picked these few because they fit the theme. If they did this it would have been amazing but...

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

Well, we don't know if this is the case or not. I have simply chosen to believe that there went some thought into the thematic beforehand and then they picked this line up. You prefer to think that it was the other way around, that they first picked the champions and then constructed an explanation for these being a team around it.

Until we get a statement from Riot themselves, we won't know what is correct here. I give my explanation the slight edge here, because of one detail.

The inclusion of Warwick. Warwick as a champion at first doesn't seem like a candidate they would come up with for Project, especially since a Rioter mentioned that the criterium of "just humans wielding significant weapons" is still in place. But he said that there will be a lore explanation why Warwick is in the skin line, most likely he is human there and his wolf-like appearance is just some holograms and/or exoskeleton.

That they included Warwick for lore reasons, even if he is not an obvious choice for the Project skin line in the first place, makes me think that there definitely went some deep thought in the thematic of the line up this year. If they just wanted to throw in one less popular project, there would have been enough humans they could have picked and then constructed the thematic around that one being in Warwick's place. But they have chosen Warwick, who is the perfect representation of the theme "man-made monster".

SuicidePlank1 votes

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GP could work to by this, so would Aatrox (which I would love to see).

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

Not really in my opinion.

Gangplank What kind of trauma did this guy have that impacted him negatively? The only thing traumatic I can come up with in his lore was when Miss Fortune sunk his ship and almost killed him. While this is a traumatic experience he had here, it wasn't what turned him into a monster.

He has been a tyrann and monster well before this. Miss Fortune could have worked, since she became the head hunter trying to kill Gangplank and take over Bilgewater because of the trauma that Gangplank caused for her by killing her parents. But Gangplank didn't turn into the monster he is today because of a trauma, at least we have no evidence going in that direction. He has always been a cruel and ruthless man.

But you are the Gangplank main here, any other idea what in his backstory could qualify him?


Aatrox The trauma he experienced was mostly caused not by humans, but by the void. The void was what twisted his mind and made him into the monster he is today, not humans. The theme is "man-made monsters". It is important to emphazise here that it had been people who make these champions change negatively, not some supernatural force.

SuicidePlank1 votes

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Well he was always cruel and went even more brutal after being betrayed. But that's pretty personal where I draw the line and where you would, I would consider him a monster after what he has done to MFs Parents and other ships Captains/Crews (slaughtering them, even when surrendering etc.)


Aatrox The trauma he experienced was mostly caused not by humans, but by the void. The void was what twisted his mind and made him into the monster he is today, not humans. The theme is "man-made monsters". It is important to emphazise here that it had been people who make these champions change negatively, not some supernatural force.

Ah, sorry I am a bit stupid, my stupid mind read your nice text and made ,,people that turned into monsters after some kind of event". Kek.

Nekorus1 votes

Aatrox already has a mecha skin so a project one wouldnt happen most likely but im interested in a gp one.

SuicidePlank1 votes

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Aatrox already has a mecha skin so a project one wouldnt happen most likely but im interested in a gp one.

True, forgot he has that, even tho I dislike it.

GP should finaly get a skin that looks great AND sounds great. Dreadnova and Pool Party both sound like wet noodles, unlike the OOOMPH Classic or Special Forces have.

Sukishoo2 votes

pyke just got a Blood Moon skin back in December

That was most definitely January.

Kanzler2 votes

Welcome to Riot Game$.

They prioritize sales over equal representation of art across champions.

IlyaK19862 votes

Irelia's skin: are you referring to IG? Because Riot doesn't really have control over that. It's who the players want a skin of. Duke wanted Irelia, so Irelia was the mandate.

Moonboy651 votes

Janna got Bewitching in October last year Rumble got Badlands in April last year Singed, Veigar and Tryndamere got a new skin in 2017 Pyke got Blood Moon in January this year you didn't even mention Skarner, Xerath, Udyr, Kassadin or Rek'Sai who've gone longer without a skin since 2015

pls do some research

4 Step Cadence1 votes

There is a certain amount of time a champion has to wait before getting another skin, which I believe is a few months. All those champions have waited the appropriate amount of time before being able to get a new skin. Sucks, I know, but that's how it works.

Battlecast Bear1 votes

There are champions that haven't received a new skin in YEEEEEARS! Example, Velkoz last got a skin in April of 2016.

Pika Fox1 votes

So? Who cares if they got skins 2 days ago, heres more.

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