State of the Champion Update - January 2017: Galio, Evelynn and Tank Class Update

Sharjo··22 votes·5,837 views
/dev: State of Champion Update, January 2017 - Nexus - League of Legends

Behold a new devblog on champion updates!

The Warwick team is going on to Urgot.

The Galio team will proceed to do Evelynn once Galio's finished.

The class update team's doing tanks next.

Karma, Maokai and Sejuani are next in line for skin splash updates.

67 Comments

Ralanr16 votes

Words cannot express how excited I feel now that I know tanks are next.

Instead I shall let Spongebob express my feelings.

http://i.makeagif.com/media/7-02-2015/nEuj46.gif

TyrekGoldenspear1 votes

Sums up my thoughts pretty well lol.

Blakiepug1 votes

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Words cannot express how excited I feel now that I know tanks are next.

Instead I shall let Spongebob express my feelings.

http://i.makeagif.com/media/7-02-2015/nEuj46.gif

As someone who mains Nautilus, seeing tanks are next makes me feel sick. I personally do not like the class updates and find they always create more frustration than good.

Ralanr1 votes

You honestly don't think tanks need some fine tuning?

Blakiepug1 votes

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You honestly don't think tanks need some fine tuning?

I feel that is an issue the balance team should handle and not something that warrants a class update which more than likely will throw everything even further out of whack.

AirKingNeo1 votes

Oh boy, Aatrox's update pushed back again.

Oh boy, bruisers pushed back again. Remember Bruiser update 2013? That never happened. Now tanks take it because riot doesn't understand that CDR broke tanks and LDR/Mortal Reminder is busted

Ralanr9 votes

It's not like defensive itemization needs heavy changes or anything.

AirKingNeo1 votes

It needs less CDR and higher costs.

That's it.

Ralanr2 votes

Considering how pushing tank purchases to late game would fuck tanks over, no.

As for needing less CDR, I think mages need to have less CDR items.

AirKingNeo1 votes

No? What? The whole reason tanks are broken is because every single one of their items costs so fucking little and tanks aren't supposed to have access to CDR.

Ralanr2 votes

They have maybe 4 items that give CDR. In comparison to mages that's nothing.

ModJango Mage2 votes

I really like tanks. They are my second main class after mages, so im pretty happy they are getting a rework, but oh man bruisers reqwuire it waaaaay more than them.

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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I really like tanks. They are my second main class after mages, so im pretty happy they are getting a rework, but oh man bruisers reqwuire it waaaaay more than them.

Why? Bruisers were the first ever class to get an update, the juggernaut update.

The only good nugget we got out of that was a balanced darius, they ruined mordekaiser, failed to fix garen's core issue (his stupid passive), and skarner ended up becoming a tank.

ModJango Mage1 votes

Yea that was a fail. And only 4 champions took part in it. I think some bruisers are in a very sihhity place right now. Tanks are way better, they are just not meta. But Aatrox Diana Mordekaiser are in a really bad position for example. And some other bruiser sare just flat out broken and/or h8ted by the community: Camille Fiora Yasuo .

AirKingNeo1 votes

Bruisers and Juggernauts are different things. Juggernauts are a subclass. Bruisers still have yet to get their rework.

AirKingNeo1 votes

Mages are supposed to have CDR.

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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Considering how pushing tank purchases to late game would fuck tanks over, no.

As for needing less CDR, I think mages need to have less CDR items.

I wouldnt mind if tanks had a mix of early game and late game options, but I mean actual late game options, not shit like current thornmail...

Ralanr1 votes

To do that they'd actually have to allow tanks to be strong late, which wouldn't work out considering who the late game kings are supposed to be.

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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To do that they'd actually have to allow tanks to be strong late, which wouldn't work out considering who the late game kings are supposed to be.

Thats not true, tanks should be like any other class where you can choose between an early game tank or a good scale tank with a weak early like rammus or (in an ideal state) sion.

Ralanr1 votes

Then we have shit like LDR.

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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Then we have shit like LDR.

Honestly all the LW items are retarded. Have you ever tried playing a heal reliant champion like darius or vlad or swain against ADCs once they build an 800 fucking gold component item that now gets to scale into a monster LW item?

Ralanr1 votes

No, because I keep running into marksmen that don't freaking build it.

Honestly I can get the armor pen, but I'm starting to wonder if Giant slayer should exist.

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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No, because I keep running into marksmen that don't freaking build it.

Honestly I can get the armor pen, but I'm starting to wonder if Giant slayer should exist.

Im wondering why mortal reminder exists. Back then executioners calling was a final item. It was cheap and gave somewhat better stats than the current version, but it was grossly slot inefficient later game. Nowadays ADCs are allowed to fuck healers and still scale like monsters by turning exec into an LW item.

RainbowIcee1 votes

Here is hoping rammus and voli are on it, while also hoping leona isnt.

Forbidden Siren8 votes
  • I hope they keep Urgot's hideous (but yet gorgeous) appearance.
  • I hope they won't cover up Evelynn too much.
  • I wonder who the big four for the tank update will be, my prediction: Sejuani, Dr. Mundo, Singed and Skarner (again)
  • Whoo! Karma and Sejuani splash art update!
h5LYF41Lam7 votes

im 6 billion precent sure they will rework malphite.

CrazyBigfoot283 votes

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  • I wonder who the big four for the tank update will be, my prediction: Sejuani, Dr. Mundo, Singed and Skarner (again) Aatrox
SpongebobIsLife3 votes

isn't a tank

SpongebobIsLife1 votes

Im not sure about skarner, as he is considered a bruiser rather than a tank. But I agree he needs something besides the gimmick he has.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Amumu, Malphite, Shen, and Sej. I predict Sej and Amumu because of how similar their kits are. Malphite because his ult is literally the only thing about him that anyone knows and its a broken one at that. And Shen because he is so weak in solo play but kinda strong in competitive bc of ult.

Autrah Fang3 votes

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Im not sure about skarner, as he is considered a bruiser rather than a tank. But I agree he needs something besides the gimmick he has.

i'm pretty sure Riot said a little bit after the juggernaut update that they mislabeled him as a juggernaut, and that he actually is a vanguard on further investigation (i don't remember the exact quote, or where they said it, but they did label him as a vanguard in their Champion Subclass List), so it's actually very possible that Skarner might actually get another rework with the vanguard update (although personally i think he won't be one of the big 4-6, at most he'll likely only get a small update like Fizz and Shaco)

Jeddy0172 votes
  • I wonder who the big four for the tank update will be, my prediction: Sejuani, Dr. Mundo, Singed and Skarner (again)

Buddy, they're targetting Vanguards (engage tanks). DrMundo & Singed aren't Vanguard tanks. Mundo is a juggernaut & Singed is his own special snowflake.

GreenLore1 votes

Well while they did say that they are going to focus on the vanguards more than other kind of tanks,it did sound like they might do some other tanks as well.

And since Singed is a special snowflake,it would make sense that they squeeze him either into a fighter update or a tank update.

QMighty2 votes

Mundo is definitely getting a full VGU (his visuals need a lot of work too).

Malicious Metal6 votes

I'll be honest, I'm kinda disappointed we didn't get any news on Morde's VGU and how long he has to wait until he finally gets the rework he deserves after the disaster that was the Juggernaut patch.

Sharjo4 votes

To be fair, Evelynn's had it a lot worse consistently for as long as she's been around. It's long past her due date, more so than even Morde since she's also older than him.

Malicious Metal1 votes

No denying that. I already made a post on her potential VGU a while back and Reav3 confirmed she was going to get one this year.

I'd just like to see that Metal guy finally be a healthy champion with satisfying skills and HUGE thematic appeal. But hey, he'll probably end up like Yorick post VGU where his play rate won't even go up that much.

Papa Andrei1 votes

Would be nice to just have some sort of acknowledgement atleast.

Electro5222 votes

Even though Yorick's play rate hasn't gone up much, you can't deny that hes in a much healthier state. The meta just doesn't favor him too much. If we ever get into a split push meta, there's no doubt he'll be king. Also, doesn't he perform quite well against the squsihy-er fighters, such as Fiora, Jayce, and Riven? If I'm correct, then once tanks fall out of meta, he could be a decent pocket pick.

Fondling Gems11 votes

I mean to be fair there are other champions in almost as bad of a state that never got a chance at the rework in the first place. I believe order is also partially dependent on what ideas they have for the rework, if they have a strong idea of where they want to take someone like Eve then it makes sense she will be first. That is why the Yorick rework was put off for so long because Riot wasn't sure where to take him.

I imagine he isn't that far down the list but until they get a good idea of what they want to do and go through some champions that have needed updates but haven't gotten the chance at a rework yet I imagine he will stay on the backburner.

It is kinda the risk with champion updates, if they fail then the champion is still going to be pushed back because Riot has burned through a bunch of ideas for them and already devoted a lot of their resources to that one champion. It just makes more sense to cover other champions first.

Brutusness5 votes

Well, can't say this wasn't the most likely situation. It's good we'll be getting two of the biggest candidates finished up. Just wish we didn't have to wait so long for Swain, seems we'll have to wait for 2018 for him.

GreenLore3 votes

I'm not really surprised that Eve and Urgot are the next reworks,I mean it was pretty much clear that these 2 are the top priorities. At first I wasn't to sure about Eves archetype of "shadow assassin" really being that good,but since they pointed out the split of the assassin-archetype(with Kata being the flashy one and talon being the assassins-creed-guy) I guess that shadow assassin does have some potential,so I am really interested in what they are gonna do with eve.

Though I am a bit disappointed that Divers don't come before the Tanks,mostly because I feel like Aatrox is the one champion who needs a class-update the most. But then again they do make a good point about tanks feeling all a bit too much like Amumu.

As for the splash arts: We knew that Karma was getting the next splash art update,though it is interesting to hear that they update the splashes of some tanks next,because of the tank update.Makes me look forward to the class updates even more :)

Sukishoo2 votes

Wooooooooooooo! Evelynn

Stars Shaper2 votes

Not as much information as I'd have liked to hear especially on the guy that they were already working on (Galio). It looks like they are stucked on him and can't say much while Evelynn and Vanguards have more things done.

GreenLore6 votes

Uhm they said that Eve is going to be the next rework after Galio,so they likely didn't say anything about Galio,because Galio is already almost finished and will get his own big post when the rework comes out.

Karakot1 votes

sits in the corner and proceeds to cry thinking we will never see the diver update RIP Aatrox...

Jeddy0172 votes

The Diver update will likely happen in Preseason later this year. It was never a situation of "Okay we pick one class & will never update the other." It was them figuring out which class to tackle next & the one not picked will be looked at later.

Karakot1 votes

I'm aware that was the sitaution I guess I just said it kinda funny. I just don't feel like waiting till November till he gets some actual much needed love you know?

Jeddy0171 votes

Well, the fact that he's not getting an update soon may push Riot to give him some light balance love.

AgeOfTheMage1 votes

I mean, i love how galio looks, and his abilities are cool, but i do admit he'll need some changing, but keep his ult!

also never knew ev was a tank

AceHearts1 votes

Oh my Goodness. Please let Rammus be on the major update list. He needs it terribly. He's so simplistic and has little to no skill rise, which is what you're talking about making them have. It's not like he's one of the, "hey is it your first time in this role? Rammus is a good choice." Type of champions either, nobody knows about Rammus. Please revive him.

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