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A Small Point for the Kayle Rework...

Camulos··5 votes·4,136 views

This is going to seem like a nit-pick for the majority of people, but...

The spelling of the name Kayle"Kayle" should be "Kayel".

Now before the Kayle Mains all light the torches and sharpen the pitchforks, hear me out! Apart from the fact that phonetically the current spelling lends itself more towards "Kay-leh" than anything else, "-el" is a Hebrew suffix which is a very common feature of angelic names, because it means "of God" or "God's". Examples include; Michael, Gabriel, Gadreel, Azazel, Samael etc. So this spelling would better suit an angelic champion. "Kay" is fine, because it can either derive it's meaning from Arthurian legends where it would mean "Keeper of Keys" (despite being a male use of the name this would still fit the champion), or as a short form of Katherine which has several opposing meanings which can all be symbolic of her relationship with MorganaMorgana.

This is all just my two cents and I don't expect it to be changed, but it's just something that popped into my head that I can't shake off.

14 Comments

Sukishoo5 votes

That'd be like changing Kale (the vegetable) to Kael cause it's not spelled the way it's pronounced either :p

Camulos2 votes

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That'd be like changing Kale (the vegetable) to Kael cause it's not spelled the way it's pronounced either :p

Did everyone here just stop reading the post after my phonetics comment?

GreenLore5 votes

The problem is that your idea would also change the way the name is pronounced too, people would pronounce it "Ka-Yel" or something like that,which would be still quite different from the way Kayle is pronounced.

Stars Shaper2 votes

Would be neat to have it indeed but:

  • There is a really low chance they are going to change the name of an existing character, even if the change is minimal and would make more sense.
  • Any implication of existing religious belief is usually unwelcome in here as in other games.
Camulos2 votes

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Would be neat to have it indeed but:

  • There is a really low chance they are going to change the name of an existing character, even if the change is minimal and would make more sense.
  • Any implication of existing religious belief is usually unwelcome in here as in other games.

Yeah, I agree with the first point, the "qwerty keyboard effect" is likely too strong for this to actually happen. Although, considering that (to my knowledge) angels do not exist outside of Abrahamic religions, I'd say having angel champions in Kayle and Morg is enough of an excuse to draw more from the cultures where the concept originated.

BioticFlux1 votes

Agreed!

bluefire mark 22 votes

By your logic we should rename illaoi illowe ir somethin. Spelling doesn't matter when naming, they're names after all. They can be made to be unique and all.

Camulos2 votes

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By your logic we should rename illaoi illowe ir somethin. Spelling doesn't matter when naming, they're names after all. They can be made to be unique and all.

I mean, if you only read the phonetics part of my argument you'd have a point. I'm pretty sure IllaoiIllaoi's name obeys Maori/Pacific Island languages' conventions though. I don't think that a name is just something tacked on after everything else is done, a good name should define the character in one or two words.

bluefire mark 22 votes

And kayle is kayle. Changing it to kayel just looks wierd af anyway. And kayle is pronounced the way it looks anyway. Hay bale for example. No y, but le make the same sound as kayle. Her names fine

BioticFlux1 votes

So your reasoning as to why it should stay the same is because... it "looks weird af"?

I get that Riot would not want to change a name for consistency's sake, which would be a good, objective reason not to do so. But to blow of a well-substantiated idea because it "looks weird af" to you is not a good argument.

Riot has stated that much thought and effort goes into naming champions (probably not the old ones such as Kayle though, because the post that stated this was relatively new), and thus spelling does matter even when they try to make something unique. Maybe if they had put as much effort into naming their angel-esque character back then (Kayle was released in 2009) as they do with their new champions, who knows... we might have gotten Kayel.

bluefire mark 21 votes

I'm not only saying it looks wierd. By the english language kayle is pronounced the way it is. "Kay" "el" you don't say seal should be spelled seel because it sounds like it should be. And also take into consideration that kayel might mean something in another language that you want to avoud her name being. And consistancy sake. Just renaming a champion is not a good idea. (Except for aatrox because he is no longer aatrox.)

Camille Ferrøs2 votes

I like the idea behind it.

BioticFlux1 votes

Hmmm I like the idea, very interesting and well-described and substantiated reasoning!

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