Blood Moon Vladimir

Mask Collector··3 votes·4,015 views
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Not the first person to ever think of a Blood Moon Vladimir Skin.

Vladimir is friends with Elise and she has a Blood Moon skin and is a crazy spider(so a crazy vampire should honestly get one).

Vladimir is too blood related not to get a skin in the only Blood related skin line so far(or probably ever...).

Blood Lord Vladimir does not detract from my interests in a Blood Moon Vladimir skin...(I honestly would prefer/only buy the latter...Soulstealer>Blood Lord anyways...definitively...(in my eyes)...).

So yeah, I'm a Vladimir main who's extremely curious as to whether or not Vladimir will get slotted into the Blood Moon skin line - I think it'd be fitting...Elise got in and they're both in The Black Rose together...

Vladimir's lust for blood lends himself to fit into the possible inspirational role as Onihitokochi - a one-eyed demon in Japanese folklore known to eat and kill humans(in that order perhaps)...

Onihitokuchi lies in waiting and collapses upon intruders and/or hunts them down, much like the Pentakill on Vladimir I got earlier this afternoon...

Vladimir could easily don a one-eyed mask and fit into a Japanese mindset/theme this way...(He would look a bit like Tobi+Mask from Naruto Shippuuden, also, (if going with the one-eyed theme)...I think that's a positive trait, personally - I like the idea of a vortex...

Just throwing ideas out there - there's too much information to base a Blood Moon Vladimir off of...To not do so is nonsense.

Thanks!!!

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Krizalid2 votes

in the only Blood related skin line Blood Knight Hecarim Sanguine Garen

I think we could expand some other skin lines too. Which makes it questionable, but not problematic! As a Vladimir main, I support him having every possible skin out there, including Blood Moon.

Mask Collector1 votes

Good points. He should dip in all of those...lol...seriously.

Umbral Regent1 votes

When was Vladimir friends with Elise? Vladimir was never stated to be in the Black Rose, and Elise is from the Shadow Isles, not Noxus. And, lastly, Vladimir is not a vampire, he's a hemomancer, a mage who's skilled in blood-oriented magic. EDIT: Riot re-wrote Elise's lore, so it does not explicitly state that she is from the Shadow Isles anymore, but I will remain to use her previous lore still, as it clearly states such. As for Vladimir, his lore states; "There is a temple hidden in the mountains between Noxus and the Tempest Flats, where the secrets of an ancient and terrifying sorcery are kept. The area surrounding the temple is littered with exsanguinated corpses of those who have mistakenly wandered too close. These served only to pique the curiosity of Vladimir, when - in his youth - he trekked through these mountains during his flight from Noxus. A day earlier, the teenaged Vladimir had brutally murdered two boys his age, for no better reason than to enjoy the intoxicating scarlet bloom that surged forth. He realized immediately that he would never be able to suppress his murderous desires, and if he remained in Noxus, his foul deeds were sure to catch up with him. Without hesitation, he abandoned the city-state, and journeyed south. The trail of bodies led him to a crumbling stone temple. Inside he found an aging monk who appraised him with eyes of pure crimson. Vladimir surprised the monk by returning the wicked gaze with zeal. Recognizing the boy's sinister craving, the monk taught Vladimir how to manipulate and control the fluid of life, often practicing on passing travelers. When it came time for Vladimir to learn the final lesson, the monk warned that failure would result in death. Vladimir did not fail, but success bore a grisly surprise. During the ritual, every drop of the monk's blood was drawn from his body and fused with Vladimir's, imbuing him with his master's magical essence, and that of every hemomancer before him. Left alone and suddenly without purpose, Vladimir resolved to return to Noxus, demanding enrollment in the League to prove the supremacy of his craft. When the Noxian High Command observed the gruesome fates which befell the palace guards, they elected to avail themselves of Vladimir's unsavory talents." Important tidbits of information bolded.

Mask Collector2 votes

"Full Definition of VAMPIRE

1 : the reanimated body of a dead person believed to come from the grave at night and suck the blood of persons asleep 2 a : one who lives by preying on others b : a woman who exploits and ruins her lover"

"Hemomancer" does not contradict him being a vampire any...

"According to Vladimir himself in the Journal of Justice, he does not directly drink blood, instead directly draining the life force out of his victims."

Vladimir is the very definition of a vampire.

"Hemomancer" is just another word for "crazy vampire"(mage) in my book...through magical means or through disease a vampire is a vampire to me.

You cannot say (while being accurate) that he is only a hemomancer and not a vampire...both are technically correct.

Also, it says he is in The Black Rose on his wiki page...

"Notable Members As stated above, many of its members use dark magic, and, as such, most of its members are Mages.

LeBlancSquare.png LeBlanc: Matron of the Black Rose SwainSquare.png Swain: Grand General of Noxus; previous member of The Black Rose EliseSquare.png Elise: High Priestess of the Cult of VilemawSquare.png Vilemaw; Queen of the Shadow Isles' spiders; One of the Shadow Isles' Commanding Leaders; VladimirSquare.png Vladimir: One of Swain's commanding officials; holds a high position in Noxus' government."

And it also lists Elise as one of Vladimir's only friends on his background page, along with Swain and Leblanc, leaders of The Black Rose.

Umbral Regent1 votes

If a vampire is a reanimated body of a dead person, then that means Vladimir wouldn't be a vampire. "the monk warned that failure would result in death. Vladimir did not fail," therefor he did not die, and could not be reanimated into a vampire yet. While I can't personally contest the information found on the wiki, I still feel that Vladimir wouldn't be involved with the Black Rose, especially not Elise. Like I said, I will adamantly stick with Elise being from the Shadow Isles - and it would make no sense for a champion from the Shadow Isles to be part of a Noxian group. This isn't to say that I'm outright going to refuse information, but more to state that you contradicted yourself about him being a vampire. And, if "Hemomancer" is another word for "crazy vampire mage" in your book, then that is disappointing. -mancy, that is to say, any form of magic, is the manipulation of things through arcane medium. Vampirism would fall into necromancy, magics orienting around decay and revival of the dead. Hemomancy, "blood magic", orients around the control of the vital fluids and hearts of other people. Which is what the Monk taught Vladimir - using passers-by as practice as he played with their heartbeats and blood. All-in-all, you need to read the lore more, although the Black Rose remains a grey spot, personally speaking, and you also need to try for a better grasp both of undeath and magic.

Mask Collector1 votes

"Full Definition of VAMPIRE

1 : the reanimated body of a dead person believed to come from the grave at night and suck the blood of persons asleep 2 a : one who lives by preying on others b : a woman who exploits and ruins her lover"

You didn't read past the first line before replying I bet.

Obviously there are alternative definitions of vampire...And in my eyes, since there are multiple distinct forms of vampirism, "Vampire" by itself does not imply simply being undead...Traditional, yes...only...

But some mainstream "Vampires" don't actually die to become a vampire/longevity of life...Queen of the Damned, Underworld...It's been around for a while that there are living vampires that aren't actually dead people rising from their graves (the origination of the myths of vampires, hence, traditional). Instead they go through life changing transformations(much like Vladimir, paralleling Lycanthropia).

"Vampires are a sub-species of Immortals seen in the Underworld films. The series portrays them as living creatures infected with a virus causing immortality, gifted with superhuman abilities and a weakness to ultraviolet radiation."

Don't have to be weak to sunlight to be a vampire either.

"Recognizing the boy’s sinister craving, the monk taught Vladimir how to manipulate and control the fluid of life, often practicing on passing travelers. When it came time for Vladimir to learn the final lesson, the monk warned that failure would result in death. Vladimir did not fail, but success bore a grisly surprise. During the ritual, every drop of the monk's blood was drawn from his body and fused with Vladimir's, imbuing him with his master's magical essence, and that of every hemomancer before him."

There can only be One.

The very method of attaining the state of "Hemomancer" in League of Legends is Vampiric - He absorbed the life force/LITERAL BLOOD(So super vampiric) of the former teacher and it fused with himself. And took HP from passersby.

HP=Life Force=Vladimir Steals It to support his way of life=Vladimir's a vampire.

Vampires are called "Blood suckers" for a reason; blood, life force, (perhaps eat your soul), it doesn't matter...

Vampirism can be in many forms: Raised Dead, Disease, etc., And Magic makes a worthy addition to the list. A hemomancer could be learned by a non-vampire (via skill in magic) but as soon as they would use it on somebody else - by definition - they have become one.

All beings that eat are vampires by definitions - humans are vampires. We eat something else.

Whether the definition of "Vampire" is only based on survival means is debatable, but as we can see in the game, Vladimir feeds to stop from dying. Personally I think that anybody who chooses to do it, even if not for survival means, is a vampire - especially if they do that consistently. I consider a "Way of life"(choosing to take life force from others just cause) as fulfilling "One who lives by preying on others."

I didn't write the lore, but bottom line is it says they (he and Elise) are friends, and that they are/were in Black Rose, and you can't change that.

The traditional view of vampires has evolved over time...based on our culture...the way it develops(folklore) in the first place.

I consider the traditional view to be outdated, yet still valid.

Call it whatever you want - just don't tell me he's not a vampire and expect me (or the dictionary) to agree with you any; Undead vamps are only a subsection of a larger definition of "vampire". Being first on the dictionary list doesn't make it the only one...it was the first.

So? Vladimir is not an "Undead vampire".

You did say "If a vampire is a reanimated body of a dead person," well it's quite more than that already...

"Vampire" is NOT exclusive to "Necromancy"!!!

Vladimir

Otherwise you do not believe in the use of a number "2." term in the dictionary.

You're disappointing for critiquing an eccentric way of phrasing a generic term. Crazy is a way of life - which hemomancer's tend to live by - perhaps there's an exception - but probably not...they're probably in a blood-craze. Unless a pacifict, hemomancer's are always vampires...and they are mages by nature...my definition works, you stickler. Hence, in my book: "Hemomancer" is practically synonymous.

"-mancy combining form 1. indicating divination of a particular kind: chiromancy Word Origin from Old French -mancie, from Latin -mantia, from Greek manteia soothsaying"

That could be implied as more than simply "magic", but that works for a simple standard for this example.

Hemomancy does not imply Necromancy at all. Different mancy's.

YOU need a better grasp of undead and magic, clearly!!!

You're just being difficult...your definition of vampire is only the tree trunk of a way bigger tree than you're aware of, apparently...

Like Clamato vampires.

http://southpark-zone.blogspot.com/2009/04/season-12-ungroundable.html

Calling Hemomancers Necromancers is like calling Goth Kids Vampires, although not necessarily contradictory.

I did not contradict myself.

Burning down the idea that hemomancers are not by definition vampires just like Hot Topic was burned...

There is no logical debate that the trunk has not spread branches(obviously relating to vampirism's definitions - I no longer find you smart enough to tell that on your own)...To hide that fact is very limited and small-minded...Same applies to everybody who disagrees, wholeheartedly, it is already accepted that "Vampire" means so much more than ": the reanimated body of a dead person believed to come from the grave at night and suck the blood of persons asleep".

Life Grows...

And so do vampires...

Krizalid2 votes

It makes me wonder, why does everyone mention him being a hemomancer, even if nobody says the opposite thing? Also, why do you think he can't be both? I admit that it's not stated anywhere that he's a vampire, but at the same time, it's not stated that he's not. During some moments, he's referred as "creature of the night", he has fangs on many concepts and his splashes, his skins are vampiric and most importantly, Rioters who created him often mentioned Bram Stoker's Dracula. Could it be because of the hate towards this fictional race? Not every vampire sparkles, if that's the area of your discomfort.

Umbral Regent1 votes

I know he can't be both because he hasn't died and come back to life, according to his lore. Which means that the closest thing he can get to being a vampire is a mindless thrall to one. Just because he's themed to be like a vampire doesn't mean that he is one. I don't hate vampires, I hate people who can't see the difference between hemomancy and vampires. Everyone mentions him being a hemomancer because it's literally stated in the lore, which I posted just above. As for "not every vampire sparkles", I never even read Twilight and I know it's terrible.

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