I think we've all had concerns about the ability for Morgana's body to hold its internal organs, or even function at all. I gave her a more realistic body type so I can finally sleep at night.
This was just something I did for fun late last night. Let me know if you have any suggestions/requests.
Catastrop15 votesI don't think this is really that necessary, she is slated for a full VGU. That aside, your edit looks so much better.
Amariell5 votesoh for sure I don't expect anything to actually change, just wanted to try editing it :) Thank you !
paisy1 votesSo was Warwick but he got a splash update before his rework
Terozu1 votesNot true, they took the asian splash arts and used them as pseudo splash art updates, since they were higher quality. It didnt take nearly as much as a full splash update.
paisy3 voteshttp://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/04/48-pbe-update.html
Warwick, Fiddle, Kennen, and Blade Mistress Morgana got brand new splash arts not taken from the Asian game. So yes, it is true.
Terozu1 votesYou're right, mb i mistook it for when they updated some of his splashes, but i will point out that update happened before he was slated for a rework by over a year, whereas Morg is already slated for a rework.
So not technically true.
paisy1 voteshttps://lol.garena.com/news/general/state-champion-update
Warwick's rework was announced a few months after his splash update. He got his splash update on the PBE on 4/8, rework was announced at the end of August, and was released in January. So he didn't even have the new splash for over a year before he was reworked. He was in the tier 1 of champs who were slated for a rework (alongside Morgana) before he was even announced for one.
So yes, still technically true
Terozu1 votesHe was reworked in season 7, patch two, the splash update was season 4 patch 8. That's over two years, and his rework took like 3-6 months. Being a champ who needs a rework and a champ who's slated for a rework are different.
paisy1 votesHe got his splash update for his base skin in 2016?? During season 6?
Terozu1 votesYour link is to patch info for 4.8. Season 6 was the asian splash art shift for skins like grandmother ww.
paisy1 votesThat's the date not the patch, it was the 4/8/16 PBE update. And they updated Warwick's splash alongside adding the Asian splashes. Did you even click on the links?
Look at the whole thing before you say anything else
Colgate Gator9 votesYeah, give the ex-angel demonic winged woman who shoots dark energy and has glowing eyes a more realistic body type please.
It's just breaking my immersion and I can't sleep because of that.
Amariell8 votesListen I'm just trying to ease her existence hasn't she been through enough
Wînter Fox7 votesGreat, do Varus next. He has an 8 pack and shoulder width 4 times the size of his waist.
Amariell2 votesOh that'd be interesting! I have always felt his new splash is just slightly off but I couldn't ever place why.
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Amariell3 votesI don't think I ever said that she should be held to realistic body standards, but, hey, now that you've said it I agree!
SangreDeNoche1 votesSomething tells me a fallen angel doesn't need to be realistic its a fantasy character ok in a fantasy world you shouldn't hold it to such realistic standards.
Is that why her in-game model is smaller than ezreal by 2 heads? She's basically a yordle...
Arakadia6 votesHoly shit, I was like, "That doesn't look much different." but this makes normal Morg splash look like she is sick.
You fixed a lot, nice work.
DarkTree16 voteslove this, i play morg support mainly in comp and she looks like more of a skeleton than pre-redesign karthus. her arm width in certain splashes like ghost bride seem to be thinner than most characters' fingers (not including some like malphite) and i'm concerned for her health
Lios Ashenblade6 votesIsn't she like.. a fallen angel or something? Who says she even has organs
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Isn't she like.. a fallen angel or something? Who says she even has organs
She isn't TECHNICALLY a fallen angel as we refer to them. She's an angel-like being who in her old lore at least fought in a civil war and went to the summoner's (institute was it? I forget the term they used) and signed up for the league in exchange for the power to beat kayle.
She got her power from mortal men, not anything demonic.
Lios Ashenblade3 votesright right, but and I am no expert on fantasy anatomy, but who is to say she isn't entirely fueled by magic, and has no need for organs
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right right, but and I am no expert on fantasy anatomy, but who is to say she isn't entirely fueled by magic, and has no need for organs
That's not how bodies work. Even if they were made from magic she would still need organs. She's not a golem made of dirt lol.
Terozu2 votesBut... she kinda is.
SangreDeNoche1 votesBut... she kinda is.
Kench is kind of a frog, kind of a catfish, kind of a crocodile. Doesn't mean he's all of those things.
Terozu1 votesIt... kinda does, actually.
SangreDeNoche1 votesIt... kinda does, actually.
You know less than nothing about biology then.
Terozu3 votesEeeeexcept biology has eactly 0 grounds when talking about spirits and demons.
SangreDeNoche1 votesEeeeexcept biology has eactly 0 grounds when talking about spirits and demons.
Yup, you're clueless. Bye~
Terozu1 votesNope, you're just delusional. :b
Lios Ashenblade3 votesSo you know how all beings real and imaginary function, you should write a book, more people need access to this knowledge
Palaver1 votesFine. Fine then. Her hips arnt holding up that dress though. There's no way for her dress to stay on. Anti gravity dress? IMO If you're going to illustrate good fantasy there has to be some semblance of truth in it for the piece to really become immersive and believable.
The dress? Is also cut down mere mm away from whatever it is Morgana has under there. [slayer-jinx-unamused] I assume that by drawing it this way the artist wants to portray some sort of sex appeal. Why then, would they make her look organless? On purpose? The fact that you came to the opinion of organless isnt really doing the art any favors. lolol. Unless. You find organless bitches to look sexy. Everyone's got their thing. But either way, if that was the intent and purpose it should have been better portrayed or eluded to.
Amariell1 votesWho knows, but I think it's only fair she gets to experience them at least once :P
Terozu4 votesWhy did you decrease her breast size? And why did you remove shading on her neck and upper body but not actually changing anything, and you realize she's literally starving right? Her body type is fine.
Arakadia7 votesMorgana is literally starving? I'm interested as to where you got that.
He decreased breast size by barely anything. There's plenty of reasons for it and I won't speak for OP.
By removing shading on her color bone area it doesn't look so deep. That part literally made her look like she was starving.
And why did you remove shading on her neck and upper body but not actually changing anything,
He gave her a more solid waist and and neck. What did you want him to change?
And I do disagree that her body type is fine. Besides the fact that skinny hourglass is an overused artistic feature, having a literally starving character is probably not a good idea. And its odd how for a "starving character" she has body mass in all the right places.
Terozu3 votesHe didny change her neck or inner shoulder but did shading. And she's starving for essence, its why her spells heal last i heard. And she dropped a friggen cup size.
Amariell3 votesOof where to begin. Besides what Arakadia already touched on, I'll elaborate:
So, she didn't actually "drop a cup size" as you've put it. I only slightly shrunk ONE of her boobs to give it a lil more depth (since she's turning away, and, y'know, things look smaller if they're farther away) and make the shape more feasible. I didn't even touch the size of the other one lmao
I understand that they were trying to make her very thin, but I also understand that no person actually looks like she does shape-wise, so I figured I'd have a go at making her body more realistic.
I have no personal issues with whoever drew this, as I know they were probably given a prompt and followed it. But I do agree that having a character whose body type can be best described as "starving" seems like it might cause harm in the long run.
I can dig a chiaroscuro drawing as much as the next person, but it's all about knowing where exactly to put the super dark shadows. In giving her a little more body fat, I also decided to try and match everything depth-wise as much as I could. Just going off of what my own clavicle does, I don't think the amount of shading is quite accurate even for a thin person.
I think I just about covered everything you addressed, let me know if you have any more questions. Not every day you get to hear a girl tell you how the female body actually works ;)
Terozu1 votesIm sorry but that is not "slightly shrunk". She may be turning away, but since she's wearing a bra her breast should be sticking out like that, flat out if you were to take proportions into account you decreased the left boob by 1 or two inches, a whole cup size easily, i know thin women with larger breasts than she has, including gross as it is my sister who has a D cup while weighing < 100 pounds, and that was before she had a kid, and from some phonecalls with my mom i overheard her boobs are even bigger now, and you can often see her ribs, she is perfectly healthy. In fact looking again now awake, her right breast's circumference combined with how thin you made her left breast makes it look like she is smushing her breasts samurai style.
Your edit makes no sense, you took an ethereal fallen angel who is starving and made her normal size, ruining her theme, and ruined the anatomy of her chest, i understand that depth makes things look smaller, but take it from a fellow artist, its not that big a difference in the span of less than a foot. My sister will tell you the same and she's a professional artist.
Also she is not thin, but utterly starving, have you ever seen a starving person in poor lighting? There are shadows that heavily contrast their paler skin toned. And the person who drew Morg wasn't just "given a prompt" they were drawing a character they had helped make, with specific goals in mind.
Amariell2 votesHi, sorry, you lost me once you started talking about your sister's boobs
Krigjer4 votesHonestly, I like her bony splash art. I think it fits the fallen angel vibe very well, nevermind whether it was unrealistic or not.
Sheogowrath4 votesMorgana is not human. Do you have any problems with Reksai's splash too?
Seems pretty clear to me that she's designed to be emaciated, like her wings, as the cost for her black magic. A lot of other body typed characters on the roster if you don't like this one. But keep your hands to yourself.
SangreDeNoche2 votesBut keep your hands to yourself.
Okay, that's just rude [sg-ahri-3]
She's still a humanoid and you can pretend this is a "stylistic" choice but if the comic book industry has taught us anything many artists still have lots of trouble drawing women. Even riot thinks morgana is SUPPOSED TO BE sexy woman #99. That's why they were championing (pun unintended) illaoi and taliyah's releases as the first non-sexy female characters in league even though champs like old poppy had been in the game since the beginning.
Sheogowrath3 votesYour hypocrisy is amazing. People like you will complain about people pushing certain standards of beauty on women and not accepting others, when you're literally doing the same thing here. For some reason Morgana's body bothers you enough that you have to take time out of your day to photoshop it. Not everyone holds the same beauty standards that you do. And again, if you don't like the way Morgana looks, there is certainly another champion more to your taste on the roster. You don't have to push your opinions on everyone else. Riot has done a great job regarding inclusivity in champion designs as of late - except regarding champion ages. All of them are designed to look like they're in their 20s - early 30s, especially the women. Now I would love to see some proud old men/women in the league. That would be amazing. This, however, is asine.
Keep your hands off women's bodies.
Ifneth2 votesI just don’t want every female champ to be some flavor of ‘sexy’.
:/
Amariell1 votesHeyo! OP here. I'm not trying to push a certain standard (though I think "survivable amount of body fat" is probably a good standard for most) I was just making her "humanoid" body look more like an actual human.
Ifneth3 votesYou have the right idea! And I cherish that Riot didn’t make 
look like... shudders.
She’s skinny and bony and has big pointy hair and eyebrows and is completely dressed, and I’m so happy for it.
Hextech OwI4 votesWhile your edit makes sense, isn't Morg supposed to sort of corrupted by some dark powers? Even if her body proportions are unrealistic, it would make sense that she have an anorexic-like shaped body.
Baron Von Bangin2 votesBut why'd you get rid of her biceps? :c
