Tired of Marksmans with guns/crossbows?

Yagura the 4th·Aug 1, 2015·29 votes·4,870 views

How about an ADC with some other long ranged weapon? I have an idea for a teenage/child character who uses Yo-yos as their weapon. I'm glad Kalista has spears as her weapon, it's a nice change from the others.

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MetalrichdogAug 1, 201529 votes

Draven

Remlap1223Aug 2, 201514 votes

Progressive and handsome. That's so Draven.

WhiskerWowAug 2, 201516 votes

The adcs who don't use guns or bows are Draven , Kalista , KogMaw , and Sivir . Then they are two marksmen who aren't adcs, Urgot and Teemo . (Maybe Gnar .) There is a mage who can play like a marksman, Azir . Jayce can also arguably not be using a gun. And there's non-meta adcs like TwistedFate , Thresh , Kennen , and Kayle . (Maybe Nidalee .)

Marksmen who do use bows and guns are Ashe , Caitlyn , Corki , Graves , Jinx , Lucian , MissFortune , Quinn , Tristana , Twitch , Varus , and Vayne .

Ezreal uses a magical bow he conjures from his gauntlet thingy for his abilities.

Edit: Added Thresh and Ezreal's disclaimer.

Big Bang BobAug 2, 20152 votes

Jayce It transforms into the Mercury Cannon.

So technically, it's a gun. Just a transforming one.

ChaoticPineconeAug 2, 20153 votes

I thought Ezreal still uses a bow. At least, when he uses abilities he uses one.

A Miss FortuneAug 2, 20151 votes

Have you ever wondered how Sivir would realistically fight?

At max attack speed it feels like Sivir endlessly summons a new, large boomerang that decreases in size after she throws it.

James StoneAug 2, 20151 votes

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Have you ever wondered how Sivir would realistically fight?

At max attack speed it feels like Sivir endlessly summons a new, large boomerang that decreases in size after she throws it.

Lore answer: Most likely Runic Weaponry. Draven's axes, for example, have runes embedded upon them that allow them to return to Draven's hands after he throws'em.

Meta answer: Because people already bitch when slightly different champions with slightly new mechanics are released, so I can't imagine the rage it would ensue to have a marksman that has to recover her weapon every time she AAs.

DrakylonAug 2, 20151 votes

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The adcs who don't use guns or bows are , , , ,. Then they are two marksmen who aren't adcs, and . (Maybe .) There is a mage who can play like a marksman, . can also arguably not be using a gun. And there's non-meta adcs like , , and . (Maybe .)

Marksmen who do use bows and guns are , , , , , , , , , , , and .

Ezreal actually does use a bow, as can be seen in his skill animations and Classic and Frosted skin splash arts, though it's an energy bow generated from his gauntlet.

Tristana actually uses a hand cannon, which can arguably said to not be a gun.

At Least I WardAug 2, 20151 votes

where is Thresh ?

WhiskerWowAug 2, 20151 votes

Sorry, I forgot about him. One-hit thresh is funny though.

Kuzja1Aug 1, 201513 votes

Throwing Needles? Summoning a fist from below as a basic attack, just for visuals? An actual whip? Eyes lasers?

KoddaAug 2, 20151 votes

if they had a whip, what would they do about projectile blockers?

DragonNosukeAug 2, 20151 votes

It just goes through them. If you REALLY wanted to, you could play adc Velkoz and autoattack through Yasuo's windwall.

They'd probably balance it out by giving an adc like this below average range, but other cool tricks.

Eric SenpaiAug 1, 20158 votes

What about something like DBZ where the champion launches balls of Ki Energy? kamaaaahaaamaaahaaaaa!

Rinky DinkyAug 2, 20155 votes

Karma :3

yukonlAug 2, 20158 votes

Have a champion that has a gun that shoots swords so they can actually use the items they buy.

Bloodhawk95Aug 2, 201510 votes

Jinx "What if i had a gun, that shot other guns?!?!?!"

BeautifulGoddessAug 2, 20151 votes

SvddenlyAug 3, 20152 votes

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/53873942.jpg

Unstable JunglerAug 3, 20151 votes

I shat myself.

AnidanAug 2, 20152 votes

SWORDSPLOSION!!!

Alright, you have my attention.

UltimatesplashAug 2, 20151 votes

the lovable Borderlands 2 question

Only Play DariusAug 2, 20156 votes

You said something positive about Kalista. Prepare to be downvoted.

Yagura the 4thAug 2, 20153 votes

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You said something positive about Kalista. Prepare to be downvoted.

Hahahaha!

SvddenlyAug 2, 20151 votes

That is the one and only thing that I can praise in Kalista's design. ONE AND ONLY. A unique weapon. That should tell you about the rest of her.

Kuzja1Aug 1, 20154 votes

How about a sword beam for a basic attack? Like Fierce Deity's blade beams from Majora's Mask, except it deals physical damage instead of magic like Kayle

7ha7guy777Aug 2, 20154 votes

AD Velkoz . The crit animation is beautiful

Kuroi86Aug 2, 20153 votes

Draven Ezreal Kalista Kennen Sivir TwistedFate

ErockandrollAug 2, 20152 votes

Here's a fun Idea. What if we throw away the projectile All together, and instead use a reach weapon. (in a similar manner to thresh's chain) So not technically a marksman, but it will have the range of a Marksman

Let's just say that the next ADC, uses a, Bull Whip.

ModWulf HelhammerAug 2, 20156 votes

That's how Thresh works

Axis the DragonAug 2, 20152 votes

Yeah, but with an ADC kit (steroids, AD scaling spells, maybe a bit of mobility to compensate for what would probably be lower-than-average range)

IcyPepperAug 2, 20152 votes

so basically if Urgot and Thresh had a child.

Axis the DragonAug 2, 20152 votes

Essentially - though that would make him more of an AD Caster than a marksman - which, honestly, I wouldn't mind at all, since there aren't that many, if at all, of those - and by that, I mean non-assassin ad-scaling mages

RozzetaAug 2, 20151 votes

So sexy.

Blade of JusticAug 2, 20152 votes

Yo yo you say?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I70FbloQ4k

FlameHalbrdOkidoAug 2, 20151 votes

Right now I'm working on two champions that fit the bill for this requirement. Because we seriously need variety with our marksmen. I'm just asking why haven't we seen some one who throws knives? ( Draven uses axes not knives) and also why no catapults or catapult type champions, those things are super long range and deal a ton of damage.

So yeah probably said more than I should have but those are your teasers. Gimme like a week or 2. I gotta finalize them, get professional feedback and draw their splashes cuz they are pretty much done.

But ever since they did Kalista (and a darn fine job too!) when they announced that she was specifically made to get away from crossbows/ bows and guns; I was inspired to also come up with concepts to give more variety to our ADC roster.

SvddenlyAug 2, 20151 votes

A darn fine job on Kalista ? Sure weapon-wise. I'll give you that. Lore-wise? Kinda lame. I GET REVENGE. THAT'S ALL I DOOO (granted most lore recently has not been up to par). Playing against her as melee? Ha. If you can even call it "playing."

FlameHalbrdOkidoAug 3, 20151 votes

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A darn fine job on ? Sure weapon-wise. I'll give you that. Lore-wise? Kinda lame. I GET REVENGE. THAT'S ALL I DOOO (granted most lore recently has not been up to par). Playing against her as melee? Ha. If you can even call it "playing."

well yeah i guess some peeps may not be happy with her lore, BUT this thread is about "Tired of Marksmans with guns/crossbows", not being "Tired of halfazzed lore." Kalista fits the bill for having a new type of ranged weapon and having a viable usable kit with that weapon. So all im taking about when i say darn fine job is her unique weapon and plausible kit, because thats what this thread is about. Not lore, pls do not pull this thread off topic.

Big Bang BobAug 2, 20151 votes

A champ who levitates a blade around.

Like Yondu from Guardians of the Galaxy.

StellafreyjaAug 2, 20151 votes

Irelia

KemoBigDSabiAug 2, 20151 votes

anyone who could fit into the avatar universe as an adc im down for

Yagura the 4thAug 2, 20151 votes

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anyone who could fit into the avatar universe as an adc im down for

Which Avatar are you talkin about?

KemoBigDSabiAug 2, 20151 votes

the last airbender, like a earthbender who threw disks as an aa would be cool, and think of the animations and moves you could have. slides for dashes, another wall for anivia combos. i dont know lots of room for creativity there

Ayame IsakiAug 2, 20151 votes

Sivir Draven

FlameHalbrdOkidoAug 2, 20151 votes

Shooting lasers from hands maybe would be nice. Throwing stars? (Might be too similar to Kennen or Sivir) Liked the idea of an earth bender Trebuchet A tank operater like how Corki uses an armed helicopter Someone who's uses lobbed attacks instead of straight on like a catapult. Someone who generates wind blast The list goes on and on We want some variety like this Riot!!!

Reaper SorakaAug 3, 20151 votes

I think Ezreal is our laserspewpew adc.

FlameHalbrdOkidoAug 3, 20151 votes

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I think is our laserspewpew adc.

yeah that makes sense. But still he uses a type of bow. So for this thread Ez is a no-no. But still you do have your point.

EnjoishAug 3, 20151 votes

Well on a different post i suggested for Zelos Irelias brother the Chinese chain sword or a Fire whip or blades attached to the end of the whip would be pretty cool.

FlameHalbrdOkidoAug 3, 20151 votes

A guy with a high power water hose with a huge water tank on his back. I want this guy to be the next Marksman. He needs to hold the huge nozzle and trigger to the hose like how people hold miniguns, then I will be happy. he could shoot sustained torrents of water out in a line and he could walk around and drench people with it. It would be so cool. CAN YOU FEEL THE POWER?!!!