Latino Champions

Hierros··7 votes·3,979 views

This game has plenty of diversity in terms of racial representation, more so than most other games! But why stop there? Why not be more inclusive and add more representation? Just as an overview, here's what we've got so far:

  • White champions Garen Leona
  • Black champions Lucian Karma Ekko
  • Asian champions Ahri LeeSin Akali
  • Middle Eastern champions Taliyah Malzahar
  • even a Pacific Islander Illaoi

While this may be a gross over-simplification of the ethnicity of the current champions, it puts into perspective what's been done. But one ethnic group in particularly is missing, one that occupies 1/3rd of the habitable continents on this planet: Latinos! I am in no way suggesting they've been put aside intentionally, but man it'd be great if development focus on this discrepancy between what's available and what isn't. Of course, the quest for better representation will not end there as there are more than just latinos, but that would cover a lot and allow better focus on other aspects once that is addressed.

36 Comments

IWrath5 votes

I'm pretty sure you're making up races. I mean Malzahar is purple dude, ain't nobody on this earth purple.

Hierros2 votes

Don't be silly, just look at his previous splash arts. His very first one he clearly has brown skin. The previous one, just before the update, had brown skin as well. Plus, his name itself is very much a middle eastern one. I'm not making anything up.

Kotex3 votes

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I'm pretty sure you're making up races. I mean Malzahar is purple dude, ain't nobody on this earth purple.

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Lupto5 votes

urgot seems latino to me

Lonely Flame3 votes

Adding in an ethnicity simply because it isn't represented isn't progress. You're shoehorning it in at that point. Riot have always said they don't add in stuff simply because they don't have it yet. There has to be a reason for it. What does this race bring? Why is their race so linked to their character they need to be added? Where exactly in Runeterra are they from that they look like this??

Hierros1 votes

"There has to be a reason"? Is that really going to be your response? Why did Lucian have to be black? He's from Demacia. He could have easily had been white and no one would say anything because "Well, aren't Demacians white?" But no, instead we've got this really distinguished champ. Lucian's race adds nothing to his lore or character, nor does it subtract from it. It is simply a fact of who he is and has no bearing on anything else. What was the reason behind making so many champions white? Was their race central to who they were? You know where this is going.

Main point, there is no reason to NOT include.

Lonely Flame2 votes

Yes, that is going to be my response because that is Riot's response.

Lucian didn't have to be. And you're right, it has absolutely no impact on his character. Just like how Malzahar and Taliyah being "Middle Eastern" has no impact on their character. Because just because they live in or come from a desert environment, doesn't mean they have to be a certain way. They live in a place that has high sun exposure, so they have darker skin.

So let me ask you something: What does a Latino person look like? What makes them Latino? Their skin tone? Because Latino people can be of any coloured skin. Their personality? Cool. What about their personality makes them Latino? Why is this so important that an entire character has to be made for this?

Do you see now? If you had said "Hey, lets make a champion that takes influence from Día de Muertos" or something, sure why not. But you've literally done nothing but point out races and then failed to mention what makes Latino people distinct from them. So what if they're on 1/3rd of the habitable continents on this planet. People from all races live everywhere at this point. This is a video game that's not based on reality.

Hierros1 votes

Just because Riot said a thing doesn't make it holy gospel that can never be wrong. They can be wrong more often than not.

See Taliyah's facial features? Those are racially distinct. Same goes for Lucian. You don't just say "what makes a Latino person? What do they look like?" without being coy. There are distinguishable features that mestizos share and can be identified. That's all that needs to be included. A personality? First, stop putting words into my mouth, and second, that sounds like you're asking for a caricature stereotype of an ethnic group instead of a champion. Physical features and a racially distinct name are all that's needed to represent, and that's all that's been present thus far for existing champions. Well, I suppose we could add an accent too to distinguish them even further since other champions have them as well. My suggestion is not an entire champ, it is a suggested direction.

Why is it so important to include this? Because other champions have displayed representation for others, yet Latinos continue to be excluded. Is it so wrong to include them? It is an objective good thing to have it in, and there is no reason to deny it.

Lonely Flame3 votes

Didn't say it was holy gospel but that is the answer your question of "why are they?". It's the same reason why no 'gay' character has been added. You don't add it in just because it isn't represented. You add it in for a reason.

No I'm not being coy about it, I'm going to be blunt about it. This isn't a racist comment this is a genuine question as to what truly separates 'Latino' people from other people.

In the case of Taliyah, if there's a character with tanned skin that comes from a desert environment that is heavily based on Egypt, then you can believe they're Egyptian. If Taliyah wasn't from Shurima, you would have no idea was he supposed racial background is. She is simply a tanned skin character. So when I ask you what a Latino person looks like, I'm asking you what differentiates them from any other tanned skin race. Latino people don't have a single set of defining features because they are varied in their appearance as much as the next person.

I never put word in your mouth I'm asking you what else your character has other than a skin tone and an accent. They are not stereotypes, they are the things that differentiate one culture from another, to an extent anyway. Look at the champions from Ionia, the city based on Eastern Cultures. You have ninjas, samurai, martial artist and a bunch of other things that are synonymous with that culture. But you don't say that's a cultural stereotype because it's not. What it is taking something unique or distinct to that culture or race and using as the source of inspiration.

I bring up Día de Muertos because between that and Carnaval, I honestly don't know of anything else you could draw character inspiration from. Eastern cultures had many distinct fighting styles and mythology. Greece has distinct gods and weaponry, hence Pantheon and Mount Targon. Egypt had distinct gods, hence Nasus, Renekton and Azir. I'm asking you what from Latino culture could be a good source of inspiration for a character.

And I said it in my first response: You are shoehorning it in. Do you not understand that? Forcing something in for the sake of it not being there is. not. progress. It's lazy. It's bad character design. I never said it shouldn't be added, I'm saying you don't add it in just because you don't have it.

Oleandervine1 votes

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Didn't say it was holy gospel but that is the answer your question of "why are they?". It's the same reason why no 'gay' character has been added. You don't add it in just because it isn't represented. You add it in for a reason.

No I'm not being coy about it, I'm going to be blunt about it. This isn't a racist comment this is a genuine question as to what truly separates 'Latino' people from other people.

In the case of Taliyah, if there's a character with tanned skin that comes from a desert environment that is heavily based on Egypt, then you can believe they're Egyptian. If Taliyah wasn't from Shurima, you would have no idea was he supposed racial background is. She is simply a tanned skin character. So when I ask you what a Latino person looks like, I'm asking you what differentiates them from any other tanned skin race. Latino people don't have a single set of defining features because they are varied in their appearance as much as the next person.

I never put word in your mouth I'm asking you what else your character has other than a skin tone and an accent. They are not stereotypes, that are the things that differentiate one culture from another, to an extent anyway. Look at the champions from Ionia, the city based on Eastern Cultures. You have ninjas, samurai, martial artist and a bunch of other things that are synonymous with that culture. But you don't say that's a cultural stereotype because it's not. What it is taking something unique or distinct to that culture or race and using as the source of inspiration.

I bring up Día de Muertos because between that and Carnaval, I honestly don't know of anything else you could draw character inspiration from. Eastern cultures had many distinct fighting styles and mythology. Greece has distinct gods and weaponry, hence Pantheon and Mount Targon. Egypt had distinct gods, hence Nasus, Renekton and Azir. I'm asking you what from Latino culture could be a good source of inspiration for a character.

And I said it in my first response: You are shoehorning it in. Do you not understand that? Forcing something in for the sake of it not being there is. not. progress. It's lazy. It's bad character design. I never said it shouldn't be added, I'm saying you don't add it in just because you don't have it.

Your argument is that if you add diversity because diversity isn't there, you're being lazy. If you don't add diversity into a fantasy environment, diversity cannot exist. Your argument is quite flawed because diverse people need to be represented in media. Adding in races or people who are generally not represented adds representation for that race or people and gives that race or people meaningful characters they can relate to. Having characters people can relate to is vital to selling media, so therefore, increasing diversity in every way possible is the best way of selling your media. That's why black characters exist, Asian characters exist, etc. This is why unused races like Native Americans from South America should have representation, and why gay people should have representation. If you want to talk about bad character design, let's talk about Yi, who's barely a step above I. Y. Yunioshi in Breakfast At Tiffany's, or Garen, who is so one-sidedly good, or how about Lucian, who's nothing but revenge for his wife, or Rammus who has no clear story, or Amumu, who has no clear story. There's plenty of existing examples of champions with bad story telling, and most of them draw heavily from their inspirational stories to have you fill in the cracks (see Ahri). So adding in races/culture groups is not bad storytelling so long as they have good stories. I hope you understand that a character being gay or Latino does not inherently make bad storytelling just because they don't exist in the game. Also, some iconic Latino/Native South America images http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff89/hiphopyreggaeton/aztec.jpg http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server3100/bc1c6/products/87/images/204/Aztec_Gods_c__19710.1353461116.1280.1280.jpg?c=2 http://cdn.phillymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/DiaDeLosMuertos.jpg http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/arrangement-various-luchador-masks-as-background-colored-32220056.jpg As you can see, there is more to Latino culture than Carnaval and Dia De Los Muertos, and seeing how the culture is rich and vibrant with so much lore and mythos, there is plenty of inspiration to pull from.

Lonely Flame1 votes

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Your argument is that if you add diversity because diversity isn't there, you're being lazy. If you don't add diversity into a fantasy environment, diversity cannot exist.

That's not my argument at all. I don't have a problem in the slightest with a Latino character being add to the game. My argument is that a character should be added solely because they are Latino and nothing more is lazy. Nothing defines that character more than an accent and a skin tone.

As I already said if Taliyah didn't come from Shurima, would you think she was Egyptian? She could just as easily be Latino.

Your argument is quite flawed because diverse people need to be represented in media. Adding in races or people who are generally not represented adds representation for that race or people and gives that race or people meaningful characters they can relate to.

So going by that logic, where is my Australian champion? Or my New Zealand champion? Canadian? Irish? French? Want me to list off more? Just because it doesn't exist shouldn't be it's whole reason it should exist.

Having characters people can relate to is vital to selling media, so therefore, increasing diversity in every way possible is the best way of selling your media. That's why black characters exist, Asian characters exist, etc. This is why unused races like Native Americans from South America should have representation, and why gay people should have representation.

Uh no it's not. Creating a well designed, well polished piece of media is your best chance of selling it. If selling your product was literally as easy as having characters that fell into every profile, you would have the cast from Glee for every media possible. And the reason you don't see that is because you should be able to make a character whom you can connect with on more than just their racial background or sexual preference.

If you want to talk about bad character design, let's talk about Yi, who's barely a step above I. Y. Yunioshi in Breakfast At Tiffany's, or Garen, who is so one-sidedly good, or how about Lucian, who's nothing but revenge for his wife, or Rammus who has no clear story, or Amumu, who has no clear story.

Yes. Those were early champs. And they were crap. Which is why Riot is going back and overhauling it now. I would suggest you actually go and read up on Rammus and Amumu's new lore. And this also proves my point: Eastern players weren't playing League because Master Yi was a samurai and spoke with an accent. Eastern players played League because it was a fun game.

There's plenty of existing examples of champions with bad story telling, and most of them draw heavily from their inspirational stories to have you fill in the cracks (see Ahri). So adding in races/culture groups is not bad storytelling so long as they have good stories. I hope you understand that a character being gay or Latino does not inherently make bad storytelling just because they don't exist in the game.

Did you even read my comments? I literally said "What it is taking something unique or distinct to that culture or race and using as the source of inspiration." OP didn't offer anything in terms of design or cultural influence. He offered nothing along the lines of "Hey guys this is a cool Latino myth that could be used for a champion" akin to say a hydra from Greek Mythology. He didn't offer a "Hey guys this is a unique thing that Latino people do that could be used for a champion" akin to say sumo wrestling from Japan. He literally stated what races exist and that based off of that Riot should add in a Latino champion. To me, that is the laziest of lazy when it comes to a character design.

As you can see, there is more to Latino culture than Carnaval and Dia De Los Muertos, and seeing how the culture is rich and vibrant with so much lore and mythos, there is plenty of inspiration to pull from.

Dude your second image is to freaking do with Día de Muertos. It's in the name of the damn image. And yes, I will grant you that "Lucha libre" is pretty distinct, but it's also been made into a skin like and doesn't feel very fitting with League. But an Aztec sure that could work.

Oleandervine2 votes

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That's not my argument at all. I don't have a problem in the slightest with a Latino character being add to the game. My argument is that a character should be added solely because they are Latino and nothing more is lazy. Nothing defines that character more than an accent and a skin tone.

As I already said if Taliyah didn't come from Shurima, would you think she was Egyptian? She could just as easily be Latino.

So going by that logic, where is my Australian champion? Or my New Zealand champion? Canadian? Irish? French? Want me to list off more? Just because it doesn't exist shouldn't be it's whole reason it should exist.

Uh no it's not. Creating a well designed, well polished piece of media is your best chance of selling it. If selling your product was literally as easy as having characters that fell into every profile, you would have the cast from Glee for every media possible. And the reason you don't see that is because you should be able to make a character whom you can connect with on more than just their racial background or sexual preference.

Yes. Those were early champs. And they were crap. Which is why Riot is going back and overhauling it now. I would suggest you actually go and read up on Rammus and Amumu's new lore. And this also proves my point: Eastern players weren't playing League because Master Yi was a samurai and spoke with an accent. Eastern players played League because it was a fun game.

Did you even read my comments? I literally said "What it is taking something unique or distinct to that culture or race and using as the source of inspiration." OP didn't offer anything in terms of design or cultural influence. He offered nothing along the lines of "Hey guys this is a cool Latino myth that could be used for a champion" akin to say a hydra from Greek Mythology. He didn't offer a "Hey guys this is a unique thing that Latino people do that could be used for a champion" akin to say sumo wrestling from Japan. He literally stated what races exist and that based off of that Riot should add in a Latino champion. To me, that is the laziest of lazy when it comes to a character design.

Dude your second image is to freaking do with Día de Muertos. It's in the name of the damn image. And yes, I will grant you that "Lucha libre" is pretty distinct, but it's also been made into a skin like and doesn't feel very fitting with League. But an Aztec sure that could work.

They can add a Latino inspired character and have a great story. You seem to be under the impression that if Riot did add a champion that's gay or Latino that that would be the extent of their storytelling for that character. You know as well as I that Riot would weave a good story for them; You know as well as I that when people request to have a representative character of their race or cultural group, they want a developed character. No one is going to just sit here and expect Riot to give us a one dimensional character when someone like the OP makes a specific request. Your argument is about semantics, you're picking apart a single, simple comment and assuming that's the extent of what a person like the OP wants. For instance, I wanted Taric to be confirmed as gay. I wasn't even asking for it in his lore pages or anything, I just wanted someone in the Lore department to just quip up on the QA and say "Yep, he's gay." That's all I wanted. Taric has a very well developed story, and is heavily hinted at being gay. Confirming the hints does nothing to reduce the quality of his story, and only makes some of his motivations a bit more sentimental. Such a thing as a Latino inspired character can be the same way. Someone with a developed story and clear roots that people can connect to. And what you say about a good story driving people to media is only partially right. People also want characters like themselves, and there are certain understandings that someone of a similar race or group has that someone like, say, Katniss Everdeen of Hunger Games, won't be able to capture and won't be able to draw in that group of people. You don't put enough stock into having characters with already understood aspects of their background based on their race or culture that in and of themselves act to draw people to those characters. Besides, you talk as if League has this carefully plotted story that has all the pieces set into stone. It doesn't. League is a series of vignettes from all over the world of Runeterra, so adding in people to fill the real world diversity void isn't far flung or lazy because the story is so open that it's quite easy for it to accommodate people not already represented in the game.

Hierros2 votes

Finally, someone that gets it.

Lonely Flame2 votes

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They can add a Latino inspired character and have a great story. You seem to be under the impression that if Riot did add a champion that's gay or Latino that that would be the extent of their storytelling for that character.

No that's not the impresison I'm under. I'm pretty clear about what impression I'm under. And at this point I don't think I could explain myself any more clearly.

You know as well as I that Riot would weave a good story for them; You know as well as I that when people request to have a representative character of their race or cultural group, they want a developed character. No one is going to just sit here and expect Riot to give us a one dimensional character when someone like the OP makes a specific request. Your argument is about semantics, you're picking apart a single, simple comment and assuming that's the extent of what a person like the OP wants.

No I'm picking apart the statement he gave me and asking him what he's actually asking for. I've said it many times already but you don't seem to understand the point I'm trying to make: If Taliyah wasn't from Shurima, would she be Middle Easter/Egyptian? Is there more to being Latino than just having tanned skin and an accent, or is that literally all you want? "No I want a developed character" that's great a developed character can be literally anything. I'm asking for specifically how you are going to represent a Latino champion in game.

For instance, I wanted Taric to be confirmed as gay. I wasn't even asking for it in his lore pages or anything, I just wanted someone in the Lore department to just quip up on the QA and say "Yep, he's gay." That's all I wanted. Taric has a very well developed story, and is heavily hinted at being gay. Confirming the hints does nothing to reduce the quality of his story, and only makes some of his motivations a bit more sentimental.

NO! Do you not understand that his sexuality isn't integral to his character? If anything, he is a better character left ambiguous than he would be if he were confirmed as gay. In an entire world of macho men, he's the only one that is foppish. He's flamboyant. He's embracing of himself and not in an arrogant way like Draven. He cares for all things. To say that all of that is because he's gay is a cop out. It's saying "Straight men are arrogent, masculine brutes. Gay men are soft and femanine". It does take away from the character.

Besides, you talk as if League has this carefully plotted story that has all the pieces set into stone. It doesn't. League is a series of vignettes from all over the world of Runeterra, so adding in people to fill the real world diversity void isn't far flung or lazy because the story is so open that it's quite easy for it to accommodate people not already represented in the game.

And no I never spoke of League like that. I don't even think I've mentioned lore. What I have mentioned, time and time again which you have failed to understand, is that I do not have an issue with a champion that isn't represent in League being added. I have an issue with them being added because they aren't represented. You shouldn't start off going "Let's make a Latino champ because we don't have one". You should develop an idea first, and then if the character being Latino makes sense, then make them Latino.

EDIT: Case in point for this from the a Reddit Q&A about Soldier 76 from Overwatch: "Its different for every hero, but for Soldier: 76 he was definitely a top-down approach. For those that might not know that terminology, it basically means we started with the flavor/story/art side and built mechanics around it (like Winston), as opposed to bottom-up which means starting with gameplay mechanics and building a character around them (like Pharah)." And I promise, Riot employs this as well. 'Latino' isn't a 'flavour/story or art style. It's a character trait that you only add if it works for the character. Look at any character development. Hell, Braum started out as a woman called "CeeCee". You don't make a character a race because you don't have it. You make a character a race because it works for the character and makes sense.

Hierros1 votes

Good lord, you cannot be this difficult. Again, a character being a certain race doesn't have to be built with the character in mind since the race is clearly not relevant. Riot is going to make a champion, and that champion will have certain mechanics and a story. All I'm asking is for that champion to co-incidentally be latino. The race doesn't necessarily have to do with anything of their story. It's been done for Lucian, it's been done for Ekko. So, why not for the next future champion.

What may seem to you as being "lazy" by focusing on this aspect is really allowing development freedom to do as it pleases. This is why I'm limiting myself to asking for a skin tone, accent, and latino name, hell maybe less. You can make any type of character you want, it can be a tank, adc, jungler, whatever! They can be from noxus, kumungu, or even piltover. They can have whatever theme they want, their race will not dictate it as it hasn't for others.

and yeah, even if Taliyah wasn't from shurima, those FACIAL features are very arabic, very similar to marvel comic's kamala khan. Taliyah's name itself is middle eastern, coming from Hebrew. This is representation. The same can very well be done for whatever Latino champ they want to make, and it doesn't have to have any bearing on how they work or how they play. Tell me again how Braum being white plays into how he's a nice guy who does nice deeds or being a supportive tank? You can't, because the truth is race is arbitrary, and since that is so, I'm just asking for the next guy in the near future to be Latino.

Lonely Flame2 votes

Forget it. I'm done with this. I could explain this until I'm blue in the face and you still won't understand the point I'm trying to make.

regonas1 votes

Dude, don't even bother. You try to argue with the biggest hater on this board. Not only he will harass and troll everything you post, he will send out wave of downvotes on you.

Trust me, you can't and should never argue with a hater. Just ignore him.

Lonely Flame1 votes

What hate? What troll? What harass? We're having a conversation dude. No swearing. No name calling. I'm asking him to explain this in more depth.

Wave of downvotes? They're all on 1 and I'm on 0. Where are these multiple accounts of mine? Face it dude they don't exist.

Stars Shaper3 votes

I'm sure Brand is Latino, just look at how much hot pepper has he eaten.

Eevee In A Jar3 votes

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Can't believe you made me use a Nick Cage gif.

Eevee In A Jar3 votes

I want Latino champs too. I'm Asian but I've always been neighbors with Latin American people all my life. They like a breath of fresh air after hanging out with a lot of white people and Jewish people (not that I have anything against Jewish people).

4NoxiousHours2 votes

Riot is racist.

BornAgainVirgin1 votes

I agree there is no clearly Hispanic champ, but there are champs like Viktor / Caitlyn with a VERY strong accent. I suppose we could assume Fiora is french? but its a rather large assumption since people could just be born there and have the accent with a localized name. This type of champ is the thing you think is missing right? There are some skins like Bandito and El tigre, but who knows what that says about a champ's ethnic makeup? Mundo is a spanish word so why dont we talk about and consider that? And where do you think a Hispanic champ would come from? Demacia/Noxus or somewhere else?

And Karma Ekko being black is debatable. Karma could just be from India, especially with that name. IF you say she is "black" then you are saying anyone with dark/melaninated skin = black. so then anyone with non-melaninated skin = white(spanish/asian/brit/etc) which means there is no point in any of this at all because I have met plenty of "black" and "white" Spanish people both with and without accents.

Icestar11862 votes

Caitlyn sounds British and Viktor sounds Russian or something.

Ekko is pretty clearly black. I don't see the debate there.

BornAgainVirgin1 votes

Easily Pacific islands/Caribbean... lol. Most people are ignorant and generalize with just white/black Dichotomy. If black=melanated and white=everything else, then there is no point in this. Lucian is the only one with what is clearly African facial structure. My point is why generalize all black people into a single black category as the OP has done? There are melaninated Hispanics/Islanders so this person is ignorant or does not consider them part of the race for some reason. I've met plenty of racist Hispanics that seriously look down on Dominicans and such. Some People from India even say "light skin is the right skin". Soooo isnt it a bit ironic that they complain if they are generalized into "white"? We've reached a point where "yellow", "yellow face", "red" and "redskin" is now racist terminology, so why cant we add black/white to that?

peachdad1 votes

lmao when Ekko first came out I thought he was mexican but I guess he's not

I Am Legxndary1 votes

I think Teemo is latino...

Statchecky1 votes

sun goddess Karma counts as Latina in my book. Also I just don't care.

sneezing slug1 votes

Can I get a vegan cannibal australian black woman who vapes and crossfits 4 times a week who is also a sassy bilingual that identifies as a Rastafarian apache dog mega multi combo god of hyper death champion?

Tamur1 votes

Ok just because I want to I 'll design a latino champion based off the information you give me.

Please fill out this questionnaire

Place of Birth (an ingame place)?

What is their occupation?

What is the latino Champion's weapon(s)?

What is their motivation?

Any special mark or features?

Anything else you wish to add?

Malfini1 votes

So you categorize the first two as color of skin and the last three as continents or represented by geography? #fail

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Icestar11861 votes

I'd rather not have one at all than have one created solely to be a token. Be patient; it will happen on its own eventually.

Narvuntien1 votes

Legitimate question.. what is Latino?

Like I am not sure what it is exactly. Is it Native American? or the European Spanish settlers, I mean the Spanish settlers had darker skin than typically seen in Europe, because they were Islamic in the dark ages and there was immigration through that empire. Not to mention the older Roman Empire, all roads lead to Rome and everything people from North Africa, Perisa etc.

Is it like just a massive mix of ethnicities?
that due to historical reasons have a similar cultural group.

I say that as someone of southern Italian heritage, and at some point in history my family must of been from Spain since my last name means "From Alonso" a town in Spain.

I think it would be hard to do Latino without an area of runeterra that is had a latino culture. Like is the case for Ionia, because it is a culture more than it is a race...

Race is meaningless anyway.

Maybe it could be done, but I think some people would have a hard time working out the difference between a Burnett with brown eyes and a Latino without cultural cues... and those have a habit of being stereotypes.

peachdad1 votes

graves is mexican.

Statchecky1 votes

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graves is mexican.

We totally need a Señor Gravez skin lol.

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