Firefox Ahri

Kaypod·May 10, 2015·5 votes·3,497 views

I love the Firefox Ahri skin, and i had gotten it for the full fire affect, to my surprise it has a blue ball :(. I looked it up and they said it was because people wouldn't be able to see the fire ball coming at them. I played against the Master Arcanist Ziggs skin and OMG half his crap was a different color and his slow bombs are almost unrecognizable from the orignials. If you want to make that argument with Ahri it is not fair that Ziggs skin fully changed and hers didnt. Her blue ball should be changed to the orange color of the rest of her skin. Please RIOT!

17 Comments

ModAcademy KaynMay 10, 20153 votes

The lack of a color change on the ball is due to the fact that if you are facing against an enemy Ahri, as an Ahri, that it would be hard to distinguish whose balls are whose.

Ziggs bombs will always be a distinction since they have little QoL effects on them that, like the minefield, that shows you where you need to step to be hit. Also direction.

Jayce has a similar problem with his Warpgate, where it is blue despite his theme being red on Forsaken Jayce, mainly because an Enemy Jayce's Warpgate is red, so making an allies Jayce warpgate red, would render it confusing of whose is whose.

ZerefMay 10, 20152 votes

In what scenario would you ever need to distinguish who's orb is whose? Players do not interact with Ahri's orb like Syndra does with her orbs, or Jayce with his acceleration gate. There is a very distinct difference.

ModAcademy KaynMay 10, 20151 votes

Well I meant its when her Orb Changes color, so you can tell when she is going to heal or not.

RiotmoonstonesMay 10, 20156 votes

It's not a distinguisher between enemy and ally, but rather so that both parties know if she has her passive up or not. In a fight, it's important for both Ahri, and the enemy fighting her to know if they can get away/secure the kill.

That said, we can change the hue of the orbs, but we cannot change the color itself. You'll notice we changed the hue a bit in Popstar Ahri's case.

For Jayce, we wanted to make sure allies knew that they could cross through the gate, since usually, red means enemy/not to go near it.

llamasxMay 10, 20152 votes

I was about to say... if it were for distinguishing enemy from ally then it would be silly.

That said, for someone like ahri why not at least change the base q orb color. Green can be retained for her passive and that'd be clear enough.

The things i actually have the most difficulty with for clarity are things that can't be really changed. Sometimes I dodge skillshots on reflex, even if the only champ throwing that skillshot is on my team. I always hesitate for a microsecond before crossing Zigg's minefields. Even though it's red or green, ziggs/panth ults always make me flinch for a second when I see them, and things like that. The "arriving" ping does help a lot for some of the global ults though.

LuciferMay 10, 20155 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot KateyKhaos,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=t4hHh1Zk,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2015-05-10T17:58:39.939+0000)

It's not a distinguisher between enemy and ally, but rather so that both parties know if she has her passive up or not. In a fight, it's important for both Ahri, and the enemy fighting her to know if they can get away/secure the kill.

That said, we can change the hue of the orbs, but we cannot change the color itself. You'll notice we changed the hue a bit in Popstar Ahri's case.

For Jayce, we wanted to make sure allies knew that they could cross through the gate, since usually, red means enemy/not to go near it.

Why not have the passive orb always be green, but then have the standard orb be whatever color? Wouldnt that work? O:

TendrianMay 10, 20154 votes

It's not a distinguisher between enemy and ally, but rather so that both parties know if she has her passive up or not. In a fight, it's important for both Ahri, and the enemy fighting her to know if they can get away/secure the kill.

This is such a weak reasoning and has always been.

No Ahri will EVER look at the color of her orb to determine if her passive is ready...
If you play against her, 95% of the time Ahri will not have it primed and you will need to watch her buffs anyway. The passive is used for lane sustain, not for making any clutch plays. If you aren't able to track her stacks you aren't able to play correctly against her anyway, indicator or not.
Even if we ignore the above there would be no problem whatsoever recoloring the orb as long as it stays green for the passive, all it needs is the new color to have a decent contrast to green
The same goes for the Charm btw, it's easily possible to recolor it as long as you keep the iconic part of the spell, which is the sound effect.

I don't know who exactly makes these judgement calls at Riot, but as an Ahri main, I seriously start to question them. I don't believe someone with a proper understanding of how Ahri works in the game would hold onto any part of your reasoning...

ElphrihaimMay 10, 20153 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot KateyKhaos,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=t4hHh1Zk,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2015-05-10T17:58:39.939+0000)

It's not a distinguisher between enemy and ally, but rather so that both parties know if she has her passive up or not. In a fight, it's important for both Ahri, and the enemy fighting her to know if they can get away/secure the kill.

That said, we can change the hue of the orbs, but we cannot change the color itself. You'll notice we changed the hue a bit in Popstar Ahri's case.

Please just actually change it for once.

I guarantee you that no player will have an issue identifying it, and if they do, they will understand it after a single go.

ScottyRawrMay 12, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot KateyKhaos,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=t4hHh1Zk,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2015-05-10T17:58:39.939+0000)

It's not a distinguisher between enemy and ally, but rather so that both parties know if she has her passive up or not. In a fight, it's important for both Ahri, and the enemy fighting her to know if they can get away/secure the kill.

That said, we can change the hue of the orbs, but we cannot change the color itself. You'll notice we changed the hue a bit in Popstar Ahri's case.

For Jayce, we wanted to make sure allies knew that they could cross through the gate, since usually, red means enemy/not to go near it.

Logged in because I needed to comment on this xD. I honestly and respectfully disagree with that reasoning. :S I don't get the point that if the passive is ready and it turns back to Green for it, what's the big deal...?

ElphrihaimMay 10, 20152 votes

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The lack of a color change on the ball is due to the fact that if you are facing against an enemy Ahri, as an Ahri, that it would be hard to distinguish whose balls are whose.

Not really.

Honestly, super honestly, not really.

It's pathetically easy to tell which orb belongs to which team because of motion.

SeductiveGrandpaMay 10, 20151 votes

-Wonders if Foxfire Ahri is a 1350, checks store, 975.... -Wonders what price MA Ziggs' skin is...1350 but its on sale for this first week.

If you hadn't realized, Ziggs has a new skin that is 1350 but its on sale for its release week like every other skin, what you're saying here is make a 975 a 1350 which would also change the pricing on it, also, i've seen alot of people using that skin that enjoy it the way it is including one my friends who mains ahri. Considering this, you're also somewhat implying to just make Ahri a clone of Zigg's new skin (which the idea seems cool) but that would completely destroy the original foxfire. Maybe a chroma rather than changing the skin up like that so it can please two audiences, rito? Also: its been said way too much, the ball needs to remain that way to show if Ahri's passive is up.

1000angrybeesMay 10, 20151 votes

I say no because if its really based on the firefox theme, it makes sense to be blue. Although, now charm, charm I have problem with. They could easily make it familiar while making it special for the skins with particle effects.

KrigjerMay 10, 20151 votes

I love when people bring up that Ahri's orb needs to be a certain colour so you can tell when her passive is active...

Do none of these people play Popstar Ahri? Because her non-passive orb is a mint green colour, and it becomes a brighter green when her passive is ready.